Numb genitals - very depressed

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by Frenchboy76, Jun 17, 2018.

  1. Frenchboy76

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    Thank you for your advises Bulk-er, i really appreciate your help.
    I have the same sensation of a flat and empty "inside" penis. Before, the base of penis was very strong and inflated. Now it feels flat, soft but tight at the same time...

    I undertand what you mean about blood flow and abstinence, but what about ejaculation ? Each time i ejaculate, i can feel the tightness increasing and hardflaccid beeing even more present...
    And what about porn ? Only watching porn makes my penis erect and have blood flow inside... If i need blood flow inside the penis, should i continue watching porn without ejaculating ?
    And if i see PT for pelvic floor exam, do they even have solutions ? I have this problem since such a long time... Can strech, exercices, reverse kegel, etc..., release the PF and help me ??
    I really don't understand why my body doesn't heal by itself with years... Why does PF stay tight so long. Why no doctors could find the issue, why this problem i so unknown ?? I have the feeling being the only one fu...ing guy with such a problem without solution.
    Why is it a so rare issue ????
     
  2. Bulk-er

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    @Frenchboy76 now you' re adding a detail that does not match much with the aim of regain erection function ability in a natural way.
    You state by yourself that the problem started after multiple masturbation and ejaculations in successione; if done with porn is worse than fantasia but the point is that you got this problem and you said in your first post that you abstained from masturbation for months and months, I remember you went for over one year without fapping ( I do not think I will be able to). Btw even after such a long time your erection did not improve and I gave my suggestion saying that, you have to make Flow fresh blood to your genital apparatus, but I underlined twice to abstaining from masturbation. You can favour blood flow stimulating your perineum or putting some cream to your penis to hydratate the skin. It s also possible to get a semi erection doing that and but you can rely to your high will power no to relapse and masturbate, simply appreciate that beginning of erection while you work on your blood flow to the penis.
    We suffering of this issue due to eccessive masturbation have to do two things at the same time in order to ripristino a healthy condition.
    1) abstaining from masturbation both from fantasies and especially from porn.
    2) during this abstinence, not leaving the penis without some blood Flow that penis requires in order no to get dried and accusato ed to this lack that comes from erectile dysfunction.
    Coming back to the point 1, we and in this case you have to abstain completely both from ejaculation and masturbation cause the abuse of solo sexual activity (from porn and fantasie) messed up the dopamine receptors in the brain and the dopamine is what give the signal that runs along our bodies to start an erection.
    Excessive masturbation and ejaculation produce too much dopamine for out brains to be elaborate. Our brains is not made to receive so many strong sexual impulses in real life, but as masturbation is very easy, we Force pur brains to these continue dopamine hits and time after time the brain get more and more tolerant to these impulses and we need stronger impulses to get an erection looking for harder porn or forcing erection holding very tight the penis. In this way we re depleting our dopamine reserves and we develope anxiety and depression, after ejaculation cause we feel good just when we masturbate that it gives another bit of dopamine, but as i just said, we re abusing of these dopamine hits, like a drug and time after time we get tolerant to these dopamine hits and we need stronger acta for that dopamine to hits us. In the end we re lowering our dopamine levels and at the same time becoming addicted to dopamine hits. It s like a drug. You feel bad cause abusing of a drug and you think to feel better at least in the short time with a new dose of the same damn drug, that you swear it will be the last one... But won t be the last one, cause you ll feel ad again and you ll find peace just if you masturbate again.
    So you have to break this chain... And as i read you did it, abstaining for such long time ( are you sure you abstained from porn and masturbation for 1 year?).
    The thing that you didn t do for sure is to train your genital apparatus to a healthy blood Flow and this thing have to be done also in a mechanical way. Do it by yourself massaging your perineum, doing kegels or reverse kegels, or for a more professional processo, by a pelvic Floor therapist.
    Let me know if I did not make myself clear talking about some thing cause I didn t read all the thread so there may be some confusion
     
  3. Frenchboy76

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    To be clear and precise :

    - before 22yo : everything fine
    - 22yo : much more masturbations and ejaculations with internet porn
    - one day no sensation in penis (just the penis, not the testicles). As if penis was disconnected from rest of body, but no hardflaccid and testicles ok
    - i decided to stop masturbation during few weeks
    - one day my penis was sensitive again, i was so happy that i masturbated and ejaculted. This one was sooo good, i was very happy. So happy that i masturbated and ejaculated again just after the first. My penis was not really erected, but i forced the ejaculation by contracting the pc muscles and masturbating very roughly.

    - Then, just after this second ejaculation, all felt weird. The penis lost all the blood very quickly and was numb again, with hardflaccid sensation. My testicles rised up and didn't return to their normal state, no more hanging loose, no more relaxed and they were numb too. As if a muscle (cremaster ? Pc ? Bc ?) was totally and always contracted, tight, clenched. The base of penis is flat, empty, and i don't feel urethra as i used too. Sometimes, before my issue, when i masturbated too much i could feel a burning sensation near urethra. No more the case. Everything numb.
    Before my issue, when i contracted pc muscles, i could feel my loose testicles rising up, and go back again in normal state just after. Now, they are always tight, up (near inguinal canal), and when i try to contract pc muscle, nothing happens, testicles stay tight. As of i always was in cold water. I never have spontaneous erection. I have moring wood sometimes, but not as i used too. Penis is no more rock hard, base of penis is flexible and i can urinate during this pseudo-erection. I was not able to urinate while erection before...
    I have so much symptoms that i try to understand, that i try to relate and find a possible cause for all of them...

    - i tried sooooo many reasons to explain this...
    Nerve damage ? (neurologist said no)
    Damaged penil tissues ? (doc said no)
    Inguinal hernia ? (1 uro said yes, 4 said no)
    Anxiety ? (I'm sure not, even if i developped anxiety because of my problem)
    Porn addiction and too much masturbation ? (No, i already nofap no pmo during 1 fuc..ng year)

    - the last explaination i could believe in is a pelvic muscle issue. But i don't know what to do now. I think i should see a physical therapist and hope he will understand. Something is note functionning properly near base of internal penis, in the pelvic region.

    (Or i am totally and chronically anxious, which produce somatisation and all these weird symptoms..... But i can't imagine that anxiety could appear just after 2 masturbations and provoque numbness, rising testicles, chronically clenched pf, etc..., etc...)
     
  4. Bulk-er

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    The thing about anxiety or depression is true regarding erectile dysfunction and it s what most urologists say when they can t give a proper answer.
    What they don t want to understand or i d better say they re not good enough to know what is going on, is that if we get anxiety is because one day in the comfort of our bedroom in complete relax and alone while fapping we got out penis numb... Which is a nightmare, so by Force a person develop anxiety.
    Now put aside the anxiety factor, cause if you feel your penis numb is not due to anxiety. You got anxious cause you got your penis numb, so it s completely another story.
    I m sure that if you speak with pelvic Floor therapists who are experienced at least with some male patients, they will be able to give you more specific answers for your problem.
    What urologists don t understand is that we want to know what happened to our penis and if i should go once more to AN urologist I would say to him: le t s suppose I want to become the next catholic Pope .... I do not have to have sex with anybody and I not even want to fap anymore. I just want my flacid penis and testicles and perineum area to be healthy as before. I do not want to feel tightness down there, testicles rising up, and flat penis that is so unconfortunable that I can t focus on anything else, so do not speak about anxiety for having sex, cause I won t have sex, I just want my penis no to feel so contracted when flacid.
    Pelvic Floor therapists with male patients experience will know more than urologist.
    In the meanwhile stop to masturbate, stop ejaculation as you did that time you abstained, but this time do not wait some thing magical to happen by itself simply abstaining but go to a pelvic Floor therapists, or at least start to make Flow fresch blood daily from your perineum to your penis.
    While abstaining so that the you re loading dopamine testosterone and so on, start giving the penis also that blood that should run there in a natural way but that is not going cause of the issue you got.
    If you leave your penis completely passive, you re training it no to work as it s a useless piece of meat, but remember, do NoFap, do not watch porn. There a big difference from stimulating your penis to favour some blood flow than fapping like crazy in order to get the dopamine hit which you must avoid while rebooting.
     
  5. Frenchboy76

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    Thanks Bulk-er, i appreciate your advises, i'll try to see a pf therapist and to stimulate my penis for blood flow.
    It will be very hard to do because of the lack of sensation/pleasure in the genital region, and because of the tightness which constricts everything (penis, scrotum, balls, muscles, etc...) in the area.
    And of course the stress which grows, each time i have to face this situation. Sometimes, i prefer not to see or touch my penis, because i know it will despair me a lot more...
    Real Nightmare.
     
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    I feel numbness in penis (especially glans) and testicles.

    To be honest my problem is not having bad erections. Of course i do have bad erections, but it's a consequence of a bigger issue which is always here, a numbness on penis and testicles, a constant turtling of penis and testicles which never hang loose as it used to.

    I'm not complaining firstly about bad sexuality/erections (even if they are present). I'm complaining about a global lack of sensitivity in genital region (penis/glans/testicles) and a scrotum tighness and hardflaccid penis.

    Before, my glans and epydidimis were ultra sensitive. Now they are very numb.
     
  10. Frenchboy76

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    And yes, i feel numb at the base of penis too ("inside penis"), like in the second image.

    Before my issue, the base of penis was more inflated and "outside". Now it feels "flat", more "inside" the body, numb and tight.

    It feels like if all the region in the second image was constricted and constantly pulled inside the body, by a chronic cramp. And this same cramp seems to always rise up testicles, which are no more located as they used to. Now they are always near inguinal canal, no more hanging properly, as if a muscle (the same which induce strong erections : pc muscle ?) was overactive.
    The muscle which stop urine and eject drops at the end of peing is not working properly for sure. It is very weak and not strong at all. Urine and ejaculation streams are very weak...
     
  11. Bulk-er

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    Try to read my thread too. You should find it going to my profile.
    I know what you mean what you talk about numbness.
    Here we re mainly talking about erectile dysfunction more than bad erection and when you say your glans does not infilates as before, testicles rise up and the inside base of the penis feel contracted and get flat, it all comes from the pelvic muscles.
    For instance if a urologist inject some papaveri e to your penis shaft, to the cavernous chambers, just the shaft will get hard, while the glans and the inside base wont get inflated.
    The problems start from inside, from the pelvic floor, from perineum to the base. Is there that the blood should Flow strong and restless to give rock erection. But if the pelvic muscles are messed up and there no a good amount of blood Flow... It get dried with time passing.
    Pelvic floor therapist also simulate ur postate and all along the perineum and the anus, they look for contracted points in order to deconctract them.
    It s not a magical session, but there are chances that yours is more a Physical problem, kind of mechanic due to over masturbation and anxiety that become Physical leaving all contracted there and no blood passing.
    As you wrote some post above you abstained from porn and you didn t have any benefit, so you re not porn addicted, but have you masturbated of edged durinf that streak? I do not remember how was exactly ur abstinence, but u have to be sure that u were abstaining with no relapse for all that time?
    Never watched porn durinf those months?
    Not even once?
    If yes, how many times and when was the first time since you ve put the counter?
    And what about masturbation without porn? Have you really abstained for 1 year?
    Did you have fantasies on porn scenario?
    I m saying these options cause u have to understand if you are in a costante flat line due to dopamine fall and not a proper strict revover from masturbation or if even if abstaining from everything for so many months your penis still feelfeel numb. In this case it s all Physical i guess and you should check ur pelvic muscles
     
  12. Frenchboy76

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    Only 2 masturbations+ejaculations in 12 months, and with porn (too hard to have an erection without visual excitation). No porn and masturbation during these 12 months except these 2 times (at month 10 and 12).

    I think the pf disfonction is the most probable explanation too...
     
  13. Sendero

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    HEYY! I have EXACTLY ALL of your symptoms.
    I will be brief: I identify 100% with your problems .. I have each one of them. I'm only 22 years old, suffering this since my 16 ... I've tried EVERYTHING. My penis is still dead.
    How are you? Something new? Please let's talk like that we help each other ..
    I think I've abused masturbation
     
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    Ok Sendero, thx for your repply.

    Please describe me your story and all your symptoms (try to be very precise as i did in my first post), we'll try to understand together what's happening. Maybe we'll find some common points, about how the issue began, and how it could be better...
     
  15. dxoutkast

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    Man, I have some light.
    I have been feeling the same symptoms as you for the past week, I still feel some sensitivity tho. It all started when I did these exercises:


    And also did harcore ABDOMINALS (KEY ISSUE). If you read the first page, the same thing happened with another guy.

    I also did some reverse kegels while doing those.

    All the symptoms you have and I'm having at the moment, is due to weak blood flow to our penis, that's why it feels disconnected.

    But PLEASE, the first step is to stop panicking. The same way it got this way, it CAN be reversed.

    The issue here can be what Bulk-er has mentioned.
    "A little anecdote: I ve read that in gay world, when a guy want to be feminized by his master, he applies a chastity device on his penis to make it shrink with the time passing, to avoid any Physical stimulation and to avoid erections. Once the slave is trained enough he will stay completely limp, numb penis and shriveled even when very horny."

    But also, stressed muscles due to my abdominals.


    Maybe after doing the PE exercises my, nerves became contracted ? , I need to dilate it again.

    Urethral dilation ?, or even urethral stricture surgery. I've read in a study that some patients with urethral stricture also had erectile dysfunction and numbness of the penis, that was completely reversed after treatment, or surgery.

    The key issue, Our muscles are stressed and we need something to relax them. Our penis can only receive blood flow with relaxed muscles. If they are chronic stressed, we need to find a way out, there must be something out there that reverses stressed muscles.

    All we need is to allow blood flow again, and we need to work at it, without putting pressure oe panicking about it. It's a simple thing that happened and that can be reversed to get even bigger erections than it was before you had the problem, just calm down, don't panic, it's not a big issue as you think, will be fixed and we will be wayyy better than we were before.

    Also, maybe Urethral stricture? Pelvic Fractureurethral Injury (PFUI)?? What about Superficial dorsal vein injury ??

    also, stress is a common factor. I've been stressed these days, and didnt alow my penis to heal properly.


    EDIT: I THINK THE FINAL CAUSE IS hypertonic pelvic floor.
     
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  16. dxoutkast

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    I had the same shit after hardcore abdominals combined with kegels and reversed kegels.
    Our muscles are probably overstressed and we will find a way out and be even better than before, as there are many possibilities available to do so.
     
  17. dxoutkast

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    This is exact the problem. My PF are really tight after doing kegels, reverse kegels and harcore abdominals.

    What are you doing to reverse it and get back the way it was before?

    Also did you feel a certain disconnect too in the beginning?

    Hypertonic pelvic floor may the final cause, I'm almost sure. Either my PF is too relaxed or too tightened, one of the two, I need to find out to reverse it.
     
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    ANOTHER thing. I think it's connected with the suspensory ligament and dorsal vein ligation..as my penis can't stand still anymore, it seems like somethin is broken, or not connected..... the susp ligament of the penis is attached to the pubic symphysis, which holds the penis close to the pubic bone and supports it when erect.

    1. Long-term results of dorsal penile vein ligation for symptomatic treatment of erectile dysfunction. Author information: (1)Department of Urology, University Hospital, Freiburg, Germany. ... Twenty-six per cent had ectopicveins, 38% a leakage through the cruralveins and 24% a glandular or spongiosal shunt.
    ~
    Diagnosis and treatment of venous leakage: a curable cause of impotence. ... Impotent men with a normal penile brachial index who fail to respond to papaverine and phentolamine have a venous leak, a curable cause of impotence. Surgical access should allow ligation of all identified leaking veins.
    (Dramatic improvement of penile venous leakage upon testosterone administration. A case report and review of literature.
    Yassin AA, et al. Andrologia. 2006.)

    2. Abnormalities of the suspensory ligament of the penis as a cause for erectile dysfunction.
    Pryor JP, et al. Br J Urol. 1979.
    Abstract
    Four patients are described with a defect in the suspensory ligament of the penis. In one patient this was traumatic in origin but in the other 3 aetiology appeared to be congenital. The clinical history, physical findings and treatment are summarised.
     
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  19. Frenchboy76

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    Thank you for your help dx.

    Honnestly i don't know what to think or what to do anymore.

    I have this issue since 17 years now... No Pmo didn't help, rest didn't help, no masturbation/ejaculation didn't help, docs and medical tests didn't help, psy didn't help.....

    I really don't understand what happened in my life the day i did these 2 masturbations in a raw, which sent me to hell.

    I'm a very rational person, and not being able to understand drives me crazy. The worst thing is that it doesn't heal by itself, i can't understand why. It's worst than a true injury ; at least i could understand and do something to "repair".

    The only thing i didn't do is seeing a PT for PF dysfunction.
    It's very hard in France to find a specialist for male PF, and i'm afraid to be disappointed again by medical services, being sent back home without any solution or even knowledge about what's happening to me since so many years.

    I have a question dx :
    Do you have testicles symptoms too ?
    Do your scrotum feel tight, and testicles higher than before, always in high position, near inguinal area, as if you always were in cold water ?
    Are your symptoms worst after peeing, or defecation ?
    Can you precise your own symptoms ? Not only penis symptoms, but genital area/pelvis symptoms ?
     
  20. dxoutkast

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    Don't give up, trust me, there's always a cure. Always. Put your will on it and it will happen.

    Do you have testicles symptoms too ?
    No, they feel Normal..

    Do your scrotum feel tight, and testicles higher than before, always in high position, near inguinal area, as if you always were in cold water ?
    No, I don't have these symptoms.

    Are your symptoms worst after peeing, or defecation ?
    No, they feel the same.
    But something inside my penis does hurt tho when I'm peeing.... I think it's the urethra..

    Can you precise your own symptoms ?
    Yes, the penile glans feels plastic-like, and feel as if it was disconnected from the base , and the penis disconnected from my mind, hard to get an erection.... and feels some kind of tension inside the penis ..... also, the glans feels like it's not receiving blood, it's getting colorless..

    These are the only symptoms, more like the area of my penis became numb.

    Do you think this is hard flaccid or something else?

    Do you also feel soft glans? I think that's my main issue
     
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