% of people who actually succeed on NoFap

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  1. Icyweb

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    That's pretty neat. I'd add to that that I've found I go up and down between those brackets, and that they aren't static. For some people, sure, but I suspect most of us have varying levels of success at different times. Would you agree with that based on your observations?
     
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  2. Kenzi

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    It's sort of like, Fibonacci sequence. Can be applied to anything, it's really just a matter of application.
     
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  3. _Xavier_

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    I imagine it is similar to people trying to lose weight (less than 5% keep it off) and other drug addictions. I would say I succeeded in that I've made it 20 days without porn for the first time since I was maybe 13. I have tried countless times and failed to reach 5 days even.
     
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  4. As i guess,Recovery process is really long.Lets see how far,I will go;)
     
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  5. potato bop

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    Relatable, its been really tough for me to get a long streak. But I can definitely do it, and so can you.
     
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  6. Buzz Lightyear

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    Not sure what the percentage is. Not sure whether that question even makes sense... as if you could quantify it.

    Personally, it was a loooong process. It took something like three years, from when I first started trying to when the urge was pretty much gone. I took a process orientated approach as opposed to the cold turkey white knuckle approach - it was about changing myself more than changing my behavior.

    I shall write a longer thread on it sometime. all the best all~~
     
  7. Buzz Lightyear

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    The relapses don't really matter too much... as they will always happen due to the nature of addiction [it would help many if they took a more realistic approach]. What matters is the change in yourself, and the lessening frequency of relapses... to the point where the urge just quietly dies away.

    An habitual user is somewhat desensitized... they have a miserable base-line state. The more infrequent your use becomes the more sensitive you become to it... to the point where it revolts you. I think this is something of a return to your natural state.
     
  8. Buzz Lightyear

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    I think there is something in this. Over an extended period of time, the frequency of use should decrease, along with the urge. Which causes which is difficult to say.... it is more likely reciprocal.
     
  9. You’ve been in recovery for 10 years? Have you rebooted? Feel better? Any symptoms?
     
  10. Relapse do matter though because eventually we would want to stop relapsing? Relapse means we still have a problem
     
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  11. Buzz Lightyear

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    Well, you have a lesser problem if your relapses are less frequent.... finally to the point of being extinguished altogether. A 'process-orientated' approach is also a psychological one.... it's like you are putting out a fire... or calming a stormy sea.... it will take a while.
     
  12. Buzz Lightyear

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    And also, when you think in terms of absolutes, this can backfire - it can add to your frustration and stress when you fail, the things which cause you to use... a vicious circle.
     
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  13. Actually, relapses matter very much! Please, research for interminent fasting and what that does for an addict. I can't go into specific scientific details because I am not that good with words but basically your withdrawal becomes each time more intense. Basically it is better to fap regularly, than relapse regularly!
    It will fuck you up, big time!
     
  14. Buzz Lightyear

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    I think you may be misunderstanding me. Relapses [when they inevitably come... remember you are addicted] should not be 'regular' but be becoming increasingly irregular... as in longer intervals and less frequent. In these longer intervals you are increasing your resiliency.. to the point where the balance of power changes and you regain self-control. Your urge will then increasingly diminish.

    As I mentioned earlier, your taste for use decreases... so if you do use, after an extended period of abstinence, it will have a worse affect on you... compared to when you were a habitual user. It's the difference between existing in a low level of constant misery... and then having extended moments of clarity... only to plunge again into misery. Given the perceived contrast between the states, that you have become aware of due to extended periods of abstinence, you become even more unlikely to use....
     
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  15. Ecco

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    I cannot answer because I view it as more like we will all succeed eventually. Maybe not all in this lifetime which is a scary thought indeed for me personally but hey we each decide it for ourselves.
     
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  16. Strength And Light

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    @Buzz Lightyear For whatever reason I haven't seen you around for awhile, and it's good to see these very solid posts from you. Big congrats on 321 days without PMO! I can tell from your posts that you are on the path! Great job!
     
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  17. Backfire or push you to not relapse, depends how you look at it, but if you keep relapsing that means you aren’t over the problem
     
  18. Buzz Lightyear

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    Well, it's the difference between looking at it in black and white terms, or ones more... colorful. I preferred more of a qualitative approach [as opposed to just quantitative]. What worked for me may work for others also.
     
  19. I see what you mean and that is helpful. But for me, I want to get rid of the problem fast, so I want zero relapses for myself, I think you have the same end goal too but take a different route to get there, different strokes for different folks, everyone is different. I guess whoever finds either of our advices or point of view more helpful should go with that.
     
  20. _Xavier_

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    Due to environmental triggers (the anticipating super dopamine burst in your brain before you cave), I couldn't go more than 3 or 4 days. It may depend on your triggers, but here is what worked for me:

    I started a streak a few days before moving and moved out of my old residence 3 days later. Since then it has been SOOOO much easier! Porn has been 50x less tempting (I am 100% serious about that, but it does still tempt me a little) and I've only relapsed into masturbation 2 or 3 times in 22 days.

    I really recommend getting rid of your triggers if at all possible. I think the Freedomain Radio podcast "Your Brain on Porn" with the founder of NoFap might help to understand the triggers.
     
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