P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

I've not had the opportunity to practise karezza, but from reading Cupids poison arrow, Marnia does seem to emphasise that it shouldn't be too intense, or "hot" as she puts it. Whereas edging is just the opposite - it's about being on the brink of O for as long as you can - sometimes hours, in my case. I'm convinced that edging is one of the main factors that leads to the kind of problems that people on this thread are dealing with. If you whack off in 2 minutes, that won't be as demanding as 1 hour of full-on edging, with or without a happy ending.

Personally I advocate for hardmode, unless you're in a LTR and need to save it with something that's as close to conventional sex as possible.

 

Totally agree.

 

I've been in a flatline all week ever since my libido started coming to life and I tried to give myself an erection by thought only.

Other than the flatline I feel absolutely amazing. There are no physical or psychological ailments but more importantly I feel a strong connection to The Creator. Things in my life are falling into place, especially with my new job, and I feel endless peace and serenity on the inside.

If I could stay in this state for the rest of my life I'd be an ecstatic man. Honestly I hope I stay in flatline forever and spend the rest of my life on the path of retention, searching for deeper truths.

Does anybody else feel like this sometimes?

 

Not yet, but I'm getting there. I hope.

 

Why the flatline forever???

 

I mean who cares about libido when we could feel amazing bliss, confidence, zero anxiety, etc, etc. To me that is the real benefits of semen retention. Couldnt care less about libido, dont wanna build my life around having sex with girls. Eternal inner bliss is so rewarding and i remember that feeling before flatline. Fucking girls, ejaculating and being a mediocore person in a society that is made to destroy us is personally not for me. Lets rise above the programming.

 

@sikreodds97 is absolutely correct.

I feel as if being in flatline but not having any PAWS symptoms is truly the best of both worlds. Right now the only things on my mind are excelling in my new job, becoming financially independent in the process, and self actualization. The lizard brain and its never ending quest for lower level impulses is nowhere to be found.

Something must have happened to me this morning but I feel absolutely blissful.

 

I don't know if you will believe all this but you can probably start reading about Moksha / Liberation as well. The Hindu yogis and Buddhists chase this only. They want to be free from endless cycles of rebirth and death. I guess we can take nofap as something that acts as a purifier for us men in this life. PAWS are hell but a necessary way of the creator to kill the lust in us.

 

Well our body unfortunately cannot stay in flatline forever. It'll ask you to reproduce....

 

It's a for short period of time...
Your sex drive will return with a vengeance. I had that happened in my first reboot. I didn't expect it and didn't know how to deal with it. Hence my struggle till this day....

 

But, as you get older....? You can't be having a sex drive all throughout your life!

 

Maybe 70+

 

It's been a whirlwind 24 hours.

After feeling on top of the world yesterday morning I started to get a tension headache in the late afternoon. By the evening it had gotten worse and again I felt pressure on my third eye.

Ever since covid started I've gotten in to the habit of going out for a drive on the country roads every Saturday evening. Luckily there was nobody on the roads as I was having a hard time focusing. As soon as I reached the city the first thing that struck me was just how damn BRIGHT all of the lights were. Not only was there pressure on my third eye but my physical eyes were sensitive to the streetlights and stoplights. I had to cut my drive short.

Now I just woke up late and feeling groggy. I had morning wood and my penis is feeling sensitive.

So much for me ascending to a zen like state.

This is what I'm nervous about. I need to practice extra precautions in these late months.

 

After all, it may come down to one conclusion in the end. If it is not possible to transmute this sexual energy permanently, and biology calls at one point in time as it was meant to be by our creator in the first place, then one might have to find back to normal sexuality. Whatever normal means. No porn or other artificial stimulation, as is evident.

Having sex in a loving relationship would surely be the best thing. Maybe karezza-style or maybe not. If one cant have that for whatever reason, it'll be more difficult to figure out another non-addictive way. As for me, I'm damn happy that I seem to be done with this porn crap. If that means that I have to put up with my sexual drive in the real world without acting out, so be it.

By the way, I'm wondering if I'd be running around staring at girls and fantasizing the way I do if I had never seen porn in my life before. How would a man's sex drive, his urges etc be if it hadnt been for porn? I wish I knew to give me hints which way to go.

 

There is some Jekyll and Hyde activity happening on the inside. For reference today is Day 520 of retention for me, just started month 18.

It feels like there is an entity bouncing around violently like a pinball inside of me. I don't know if it can be called "evil" or merely lower level impulses but it is making me uncomfortable. The feeling of serenity and tranquility from yesterday is completely gone.

Lustful thoughts have crept in.

I have a bad feeling things are going to start getting more difficult.

What the hell happened to the person I was yesterday morning?

 

What symptoms have you had these past 18 months? And is that your first day of feeling good?
Seems like you are beginning to have windows. A great sign man

 

In the first six months I had a completely dead dick, intense fatigue, brain fog, sleep apnea, slight nausea, and some mood swings. The second six months saw the symptoms start to go on a sine wave where I would periodically have really bad days and good days. At some point during this time I was actually bedridden for a 48 hour period because the fatigue was that bad.

The end of the second six months was when I did research on chakras because that is when I first noticed the sensation in my forehead (third eye).

After one year I was still flatlining but the symptoms were gradually easing up. Whenever I created this account is when I first started to feel glimpses of libido returning.

The way I felt yesterday was 100% optimal. It seriously felt like I was somehow beginning to transcend sexuality. Today I got slapped back down to reality.

Today I am not feeling libido I am feeling lust. I am craving female flesh.

 

What I read about PAWS is that in the beginning you'll feel like shit most of the time. Later on, you'll start to feel good on more and more days, yet they will keep alternating with awful days for a while. Staying sober, the good days will expand more and more. So it's supposed to be coming in waves.... good days, bad days, whereas good days will prevail in time. I hope this will prove true for me in the long run. Right now I feel like crap.

 

I haven't managed as long as you yet, but I know from previous attempts that this is kind of how it works. Some days you feel amazing with little to no libido, other days you just become a total fiend. If I had an answer to that then I wouldn't be here now, but I'm hoping that the last year has been so brutally bad for me, that I will recoil at the sight of so much as a shoulder bared in public.

 

Yep very discouraging in the alternate days.