P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. Diegomaradona10

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    I know, I'm just afraid of being incurable and putting 10 years of hardmode on it, because staying flatline for 6 years and not knowing it and continuing to masturbate every day without skipping one seems like a basket case .. But yes, I will hardmode for at least 2 years or more
     
  2. Diegomaradona10

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    Noone here has beeno in flatline for 6 years ignoring it and continuing in compulsive masturbation, I can be one 9f the worst case
     
  3. Monkeyboyab2c

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    First of all I would like to say to you that actual Suicide makes no logical sense. My dad committed suicide and it was a huge ***** move. I think if he were here and saw the destruction it caused on everyone he loved, even he would say it was at this point. That being said you are going to have to commit suicide in a sense on this journey. You are going to have to kill off the person that you are, and become a completely new guy. The guy who is weak, who runs to porn every time he feels bad, or bored, or lonely can no longer exist. You have to become a completely new man!

    Stop listening to the part of you that says you are helpless or the worst case in the world, or you will never recover. Everyone here at times has probably thought those things. I know I have. It’s kinda the nature of flatline. You wouldn’t believe the insane things my mind has thought up in the past year and a half while in PAWS. That is just the weak addicted part of you trying to draw you back, or in your case keep you in slavery.

    You will recover if you put your time in, we all will. You will never recover if you buy the lie that you are unrecoverable and kick the can down the road for the next 25 years like I did, and continue in your addiction all the time saying to yourself “well this is just the way I am.” Every time you recognize those lies for what they are and choose not to believe them you put a knife in the heart of the guy that you were. And who knows you may be one of the lucky ones who recovers in a few months. You will never know unless you start.
     
  4. Dude I'm in reboot for 7 years on and off with 16mo hardmode included as the longest streak. 4 years with ACUTE withdrawals and 1 month away from hitting 3 years in deep PAWS. So you're not the only worst case here.
     
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  5. Diegomaradona10

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    I read your story,but you know about your paws/flatline, I ignored flatline for 6 years continuaming fapping EVERY DAY with a hard flaccid syndrome.. So it's a little different..
     
  6. Rexbrent

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    i am flatling for 16 months. i still get anxiety panic feeling in brain when i see my eyes lands on skin of any girl. any help pls
     
  7. Monkeyboyab2c

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    Sorry you caught Covid Don. I got it back in October and it was utter hell. I hope you feel better and have no long term effects.
     
  8. Dave G 123

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    Congrats on your progress, and thanks for sharing - it is inspirational and motivational to those of us still struggling onwards. Do you mind me asking how old you are? I ask because I'm 49, and seem to have less resilience with age.
     
  9. Redemptionisrequired

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    I think you're confused friend, you say you're in a flatline for 6 years and yet you also said you've continued to masturbate everyday. Unless its the language barrier and you were not masturbating either during those 6 years, but if you were then there is your problem, you were not in a flatline for 6 years, you were compulsively masturbating for 6 years. You need to refrain from PMO entirely, meaning stop masturbating and watching porn, refrain from having an orgasm, allow your body to recover from the damage you've caused it. As others have mentioned it will take time, it may feel worse at first, but incrementally you will get better.
     
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  10. Redemptionisrequired

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    I wish you a speedy recovery man, hope things get better quick for you.
     
  11. Diegomaradona10

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    No friend, I'm not confused. I started masturbating in 2008-2009 and until 2015 I had pied but still managed to achieve an erection with the most extreme porn. I masturbated several times a day, never skipping a day. Then in 2015 I had circumcision surgery and couldn't masturbate for the surgery for 2 weeks and I hit them flat line: I had no more libido, no morning wood and the penis shrunk to a flaccid state (the so called hard syndrome). flaccid). However I blamed the circumcision because I had lost a bit of sensitivity and from there I didn't notice it anymore and from 2015 to now I have continued compulsive masturbation with a floppy penis also porn, I was used to ejaculating without an erection. So I have been flatline for 6 years without knowing it without taking even a day breaks. Do You understand now?
     
  12. Redemptionisrequired

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    I understand what you are saying, but you are still incorrect friend. I agree with you as for your lack of sensitivity is in relation to your surgery but if you were still fapping daily and watching porn compulsively as you mentioned, then you have not entered a flatline. You are just suffering at the hands of your compulsive addiction. Entering a flatline occurs when you actually quit PMO. Also, if you PMO compulsively, you will lose sensitivity. I highly suggest you quit ASAP.
     
  13. Diegomaradona10

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    No man. Until 2015 when I have pied, I could have erection to porn even if was extreme porn, but have low libido and still morning wood and no complete erection, but still can get hard if a see a beautiful girl. After that 2 weeks no PMO due to circumcision i lost all my sex drive even to porn, my penis shriveled in flaccid state and no morning wood.. All sintoms off flatline..you can have flatline even before stopping pmo in same case man. Shriveled penis, no morning wood, rare erection to porn are all sintom of flatline.
     
  14. zander13

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    All I fuckin' want out of life is to be able to once again read books. At the moment, I can't do it. Maybe once in a blue moon I can pick one up for an hour or so, but yeah, still can't do it. Thanks for the input.
     
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  15. I will be 43 years old in a few months
     
  16. zander13

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    @Don Quixote Thanks for the reply. Hope all goes well with the COVID.
     
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  17. mentorr

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    @Diegomaradona10 the answer remains the same, you need to quit PMO. Regardless of whether you have libido or not, regardless of whether your penis is currently in a flaccid or shrivelled state, regardless of whether you get morning wood or not. You still need to quit PMO. Follow your own advice:

     
  18. mentorr

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    This is poetry, thanks @Don Quixote, hope you recover soon.
     
  19. Diegomaradona10

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    Thank you guys, now after having ignored my 6 years flatline I'll try 3 years hardmode and then karezza with rebooting. Even if I'm one of the worst case here, I'm still young (25years old), so some years hardmode serius(0 eiaculation and edging. I believe in my case 2 years hardmode are not sufficient, probably 3 - 4 years and then karezza. I'm new utent now here.
     
  20. Dave G 123

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    Cool - not too old. I've noticed a real drop-off in my ability to recover over the last few years. Not sure if this is age related as such, or just the result of ongoing failure to completely stop; probably the latter. Either way, the sooner / younger anyone stops, the better!
     
  21. UWSDave

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    I feel you here. I can’t read books anymore because of all my visual issues, though I’m sure the concentration problems don’t help.
     

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