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P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. Seeking_the_answers

    Seeking_the_answers Fapstronaut

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    I've been having thoughts lately about what if I can't heal....I really need motivation and reassurance from you all, about how this healing process works and that anyone can heal if they stick to the process....
     
  2. I truly believe that this is the heart of the matter for everybody on this site and there is needless confusion because this fact is not acknowledged. Soft mode. Hard mode. Monk mode. Can I peek? Can I fantasize? Can I wash my penis in the shower? Should I take rhino pills? Should I see an escort? Does reading erotica make me lose progress? Does seeing girls wearing bikinis at the beach make me lose progress? On and on and on.

    We are addicted to orgasms. Period. It's easy to get addicted to orgasms because they feel fucking amazing.

    I respect the fact that everybody has their own goals and personal reasons for choosing this path. My only mantra from the beginning has been this: if you're a severe enough case that orgasm addiction is causing sexual dysfunction then you're better off practicing celibacy until your brain has a chance to heal. It's a message most people don't like to hear but I think deep down most people agree with.

    Not to derail this thread, just wanted to throw that out there.
     
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  3. Seeking_the_answers

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    Please someone I need to know....
     
  4. Diegomaradona10

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    I read a story of a man here on nofap who have ED during a period where pornography did nt exists yet. He was addicted to compulsive masturbation. I think pornografy sure cause an exhalation of genre to excitement but is so worse because cause compulsive masturbation /orgasm. I think it's the orgasm the real dependence of the worse case like me. I masturbate /orgasm 3/4/5 times a day for years.. So in this case orgasm is the real enemy to fight even in sex (karezza)
    Semen retention for me is the only way and don't watch pornography is the only way to don't release semen
     
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  5. Seeking_the_answers

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    I've been having thoughts lately about what if I can't heal....I really need motivation and reassurance from you all, about how this healing process works and that anyone can heal if they stick to the process....
     
  6. Seeking_the_answers

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    Did your withdrawal symptoms get better with time before you fully heal?
     
  7. Diegomaradona10

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    But it's possible to accelerate the process? If for example fasting increase neurogenesis such as meditation or some videoaudio... Neurogenesis is also correlated with neurotransmitters? So
     
  8. KaliYugaWarrior

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    No I actually meant during your PAWS journey.
     
  9. KaliYugaWarrior

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    Don't think so...let it pass. Eat healthy, look out for vitamin defeciencies, excercise as much as you can. No other way out.
     
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  10. Dave G 123

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    Realistically, you have two options:

    1) Carry on like you were before, and be guaranteed to have a sh*t life where your existing problems get worse.

    2) Put everything you can in to quitting, see improvements, and have a life that will at the very least be better than if you didn't try, and potentially fantastic.

    The bottom line is you've got nothing to loose (ie money, missed opportunities to live a good life) by quitting PMO. Your inner addict will tell you that you're missing the opportunity to get your rocks off, but that's it. It is difficult, and takes a long time, but improvement will happen if you put in the effort.
     
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  11. kumarach

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    think of it as a challenge rather than a withdrawal symptom,that's what i try to do,i try not keeping my brain idle,i haven't gotten to the paws stage but ik the craving factor. ik how bad the itch seems,the best thing that i think a person can do is GO ON A RUN. it helps the body get a rush of serotonin and dopamine through healthy sources plus,u don't have the time to think about the withdrawal which helps in a way,the more u think of it,the more it hurts u.i'm not a professional doc or a psychiatrist,but i'd be happy to share things that might hel anyone else.
    all the best.keep it up.
     
  12. winningover

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    Hello guys. This is just an update post from my side after about 02 months. I have entered into month#27 now without any relapse. On hardmode streak for 14 months now. I am still battling PAWS and have some more symptoms to report. Last 15 days have been really difficult for me because for some reason or the other, my symptoms have worsened. I had the first night panic attack ever during this journey. I had quite a few in the day since I started my reboot but never in the night during sleep. So this was a total new and quite intense. Further, I also sometimes feel a weakening connection between my mind and muscles. This is also something totally new. This is all dopamine related as far as I checked since dopamine plays a key role in mind-muscle coordination and connection. Further, crippling fatigue is also directly linked to dopamine and other chemicals working inside our brain.

    I had my covid vaccine a month ago and I do think that my additional symptoms are somehow related to vaccine. I could be wrong but I am just sharing what I feel. I think when you are going through PAWS, there is a very high chance of having more side effects of vaccine as compared to when your body is normal. My blood pressure shot quite high within 30 mins of my vaccine injection and I needed to stay for around 02 hours in hospital in case my condition worsened. I was literally on bed for 02 consecutive days and it was only on third day where I got some energy to start work from home. I got covid in December and just had a mild fever for a day, nothing else. I was going through PAWS at that time as well but covid didn't do anything to me thankfully but covid vaccine has been quite the opposite. I am not in anyway advocating against vaccine but just sharing my feelings regarding vaccination during PAWS. If i get the time back, I would never get vaccinated for now.

    On to the positives now. My erection is rock solid. My PIED is completely gone. I don't enter into flatlines at all now. My social anxiety is improving but not perfect for sure. I still feel anxiety but not to the point of panic attack or to the point where I just exit social setting. My memory has improved significantly. I can almost say that it is to the pre-reboot level. My fight-flight response is getting better although it still has a long way to go.

    My wife is still not willing to come back. We are separated for 05 months now. It all happened because of my hardmode. I had no option but to do hardmode. I guess it was too much for her because we couldn't have sex for 01 year after my marriage because of PIED. When I cured my PIED after reboot, we started having regular sex but PAWS were killing me inside out. Therefore, I had to resort to hardmode. My wife literally ran out of patience and left. I do not blame her. We have a beautiful daughter as well which was my biggest gift from God after leaving porn.

    Add to the mix is this girl who knows both me and wife and knows that we are separated. She has somehow developed this huge crush on me and is after me for last 03 months to have a dinner. I kept her at bay but couldn't take it anymore after I had my first night panic attack last week. I called her up after and said that I am wiling to go with her. We did go and she was looking gorgeous. I had a rock solid boner on and off for at least 2-3 hours just seeing her. 14 months hardmode can really turn any woman into a queen for you but she is not just any woman. She has the looks for sure. After dinner, we went back into car and started kissing. We kissed each other for about 10 mins and I had an orgasm just by kissing her for this much time. She didn't touch me there at all neither did I. We stopped after my orgasm and I felt some guilt because I am still married. I dropped her after and felt rock solid boner again after approx. 15 mins of my orgasm. I don't know if my hardmode streak is broken now. I never intended to break it though. And I never had the faintest of idea that I would get such a strong response from my buddy down their.
     
  13. wfcasdvwervdsv

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    Sounds like your libido is in full force now! What month into the streak did it come back?
     
  14. KaliYugaWarrior

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    Dude I'm so sensitive, I can't even hug any girl. Forget kissing. I would instantly have jizz in my pants if I do so. Hence I've decided to stay away from any dating or even friendship scenarios until I'm sorted.
     
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  15. winningover

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    First it came back after about 08 months followed by long flatline. From there onwards, it kept coming back on and off. Around month 23, which is like 3 months ago, I stopped getting into flatline. Going hardmode is the key as well.
     
  16. mentorr

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    Hi @winningover

    What were your flatlines like? Was it days of ups and downs that gradually got better? Also how many months was it until your PIED finally disappeared? Did you see a gradual increase in morning wood, or did it suddenly improve to 100%.

    Sorry for 21 questions, still trying to figure things out.

    Thanks
     
  17. Diegomaradona10

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    Guys.. My 3 years hardmode stars now. I want a pure semen retention for 3 years and when I say pure it means no wet dreams or some cum from fantasies sometimes (difficult have 3 years hardmode without any fantasies). How to do that? How to stop wet dreams? (i never have wet dreams but I'm scared of it and in this hard flaccid penis state premature eiaculation is very easy) some relaxing exercise of pelvic floor? Please help me. I love you guys
     
  18. I'm falling back into a slump. Shoot.

    Hoping it doesn't last as long as they usually do.
     
  19. Diegomaradona10

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    Semen retention is my new religion. And after recovery karezza will be my new religion
     
  20. winningover

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    For the first 8 months, my penis was completely dead. I was carrying dead meat for this much period. And then I got out of flatline and started having sex with my wife for a period of approx 2 weeks. I went back into flatline again for maybe a month or so. I kept having these flatline periods for 02 years. I wouldn't say that progress was gradual because it never felt like that to me. Even after 18 months, when I went into flatline, it wasn't any better than the flatline I had after 08 months. Although I haven't experienced flatline after month 23, I wouldn't be surprised if I go into it again for a while. I cannot emphasize further the importance of hardmode here. I suspect having another flatline because I am still battling PAWS. I could be wrong though because last 03 months have been raging libido and flatline free.
     

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