P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. wfcasdvwervdsv

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    Sounds like your libido is in full force now! What month into the streak did it come back?
     
  2. KaliYugaWarrior

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    Dude I'm so sensitive, I can't even hug any girl. Forget kissing. I would instantly have jizz in my pants if I do so. Hence I've decided to stay away from any dating or even friendship scenarios until I'm sorted.
     
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  3. winningover

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    First it came back after about 08 months followed by long flatline. From there onwards, it kept coming back on and off. Around month 23, which is like 3 months ago, I stopped getting into flatline. Going hardmode is the key as well.
     
  4. mentorr

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    Hi @winningover

    What were your flatlines like? Was it days of ups and downs that gradually got better? Also how many months was it until your PIED finally disappeared? Did you see a gradual increase in morning wood, or did it suddenly improve to 100%.

    Sorry for 21 questions, still trying to figure things out.

    Thanks
     
  5. Diegomaradona10

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    Guys.. My 3 years hardmode stars now. I want a pure semen retention for 3 years and when I say pure it means no wet dreams or some cum from fantasies sometimes (difficult have 3 years hardmode without any fantasies). How to do that? How to stop wet dreams? (i never have wet dreams but I'm scared of it and in this hard flaccid penis state premature eiaculation is very easy) some relaxing exercise of pelvic floor? Please help me. I love you guys
     
  6. zander13

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    I'm falling back into a slump. Shoot.

    Hoping it doesn't last as long as they usually do.
     
  7. Diegomaradona10

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    Semen retention is my new religion. And after recovery karezza will be my new religion
     
  8. winningover

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    For the first 8 months, my penis was completely dead. I was carrying dead meat for this much period. And then I got out of flatline and started having sex with my wife for a period of approx 2 weeks. I went back into flatline again for maybe a month or so. I kept having these flatline periods for 02 years. I wouldn't say that progress was gradual because it never felt like that to me. Even after 18 months, when I went into flatline, it wasn't any better than the flatline I had after 08 months. Although I haven't experienced flatline after month 23, I wouldn't be surprised if I go into it again for a while. I cannot emphasize further the importance of hardmode here. I suspect having another flatline because I am still battling PAWS. I could be wrong though because last 03 months have been raging libido and flatline free.
     
  9. mentorr

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    How about after the initial 8 months, did morning wood gradually begin to increase? Also having regular Orgasm with your wife do you feel it affected your reboot?

    thanks
     
  10. Cyberpunk3000

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    Dude, just trust the process and don't keep counting the days. Once you start stick to it, you will fall but get back up and keep on trucking. We both have similar situation, all I got to say to you is right now am feeling better but am not healed yet. I cannot comment on it until after few months. You seem to be paranoid. Jus try to stay calm and involve in some activities that u like. It can be tough. But you gotta think less about this. Even I struggle with this most days.
     
  11. PeteTheFactual

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    So much for @Masked-Debater his theory, that hypofrontility causes anxiety, which even without this study, it was so wrong on so many levels.
     
  12. jayyad

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    I believe a full recovery can be made while also having orgasms once or twice a week with a partner. Why do I believe this? Because it’s essential you get into the habit of practicing orgasms that are normal and not porn induced. I was dead dick for 6 months, month 8 i decided to allow my girlfriend to give me oral sex, libido slowly began recovering. Last week for example, for the first time just by looking at my girlfriend naked I was able to get hard which has never happened.
     
  13. Diegomaradona10

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    Sorry man you're right. The problem is no the flatline /shriveled penis but the fact that I stay in it for 6 years ignored that and continuing to fap everyday, that scares me when I read here some man to return in flatline after few orgasm. But yes I have only time to recover in hardmode way
     
  14. Diegomaradona10

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    I am not a neurologist but it can be related only to neurotransmitters like dopamine. Probably dopamine receptors are ok but there's no dopamine production anymore in that part of the brain related to libido like for example the antidepressant in which elevated serotonin cause a decreasememt of dopamine production and there is no libido (even if the mechanism is not the same of pmo). Thank you man for this we need people like you here, we have only experience about people and we need also science. The question could be : if there is no downregulation of receptors and only a decreasement in dopamine production can be interessant the rule of mucuna pruriens here
     
  15. PeteTheFactual

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    I have not read the full paid article yet. I myself participated in that study. So I asked him if the study was published yet. He said there limitations to the study.
    I myself can't believe there are not any changes to the dopaminergic system. I have endured hellish brain fog, lack of motivation and severe (PAWS) withdrawals, 20 days after I quit, They did not really measure the amount of dopaminergic neurons, degrading enzymes like COMT, MAO, dopamine transporter acitivity, intracellular TAAR1 and VMAT2 acitvity etc. They have no idea how our dopaminergic neurons in in VTA projects dopamine to our striatum in everyday activity. There is so much more to explore in addiction. Also porn addiction is very different from substance use disorders, so maybe D2/D3 binding studies, should be kept at bay, when studying this addiction.
     
  16. From what notice, your brain will unrewire to rewire. For example, you might have 12 months hardmode with PAWS and the withdrawals seem to worsen the further you go with your reboot. There was a time I couldn't even bear listening to music at 16mo hardmode compare to 6-9 months in reboot.
    Now I'm slowly able to enjoy music again with 1 month away from hitting 3 years(not harmode though) with deep PAWS.
     
  17. Monkeyboyab2c

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    Hey man I just wanted to clue you into my experience. I don’t practice retention as I’m a married man. I was not willing to sacrifice my marriage for the sake of my reboot. I’ve got 4 kids and a wife I’m madly in love with. That being said I was not willing to deprive her of sex for 2 years. I did not practice retention at all but still can tell that I’m making massive progress when it comes to recovery from PAWS. I have my windows and waves just like everyone else. Some times a few days after sex the symptoms intensify a bit but they are nowhere near what they were in the first year. The objectification of women still comes up a bit some times but is also no where near what it was when I was in my addiction. I agree with you that retention is way better than hooking up with random chicks. Just trying to give you an alternative perspective. I never suffered from PIED though so maybe that makes me a bit different.
     
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  18. sikreodds97

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    Please dont get the vax. As we have the big pharma lying about effects of porn and ejaculation on humans, they are lying and covering up the truth pretty much about everything else. If humans learn they can heal naturally = no profit. Its all a big money game from the top of the top who decides what should be taught in schools, universitets, studies, etc, etc. And which science studies they decide to fund. The vaccine is no different, plenty of people here in Denmark have had such bad long term reactions from the vaxs(all kinds) and the government are silenced about it and lying about the numbers which im sure they do in US and everywhere aswell. I just hope people are mindfull about this, especially when you are healing from an addiction. Big pharma and the one world government couldnt care less about you, its all to get you to work the 9-5 and if you are on nofap/semen retention its a first hand exerpience and proof that the big pharma is lying to you and hiding the effects of porn and masturbation. I needed to post this on here, its concerning how many people dont realize that the world is absolutely corrupt. When you do semen retention, water fasting, cold showers, wim hof, a clean high vibrational diet, society will not need you, they cant use you. This is why the healthy things are promoted unhealthy and reverse.

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  19. DerJogge

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    With all due respect, stop spreading bullshit. I'm a very skeptical and critical human being and I think there is a lot of shit out there where the whole society gets tricked into believing lies and I also think that there is a lot of financial intentions in the pharma industry. But this whole anti-vax agenda is fucking retarded if you ask me. There is an illness out there that can kill you or can kill others OR giving you 6 months of no smell, hard depression, restlessness, fatigue and so many other symptoms that proven by now. Covid itself is no joke and long Covid is like PAWS but you have no gurantee that it will stop. There is one thing to avoid and safe the life of OTHERS and this is the vax. If you want to be a god damn egoist and only think of yourself then go ahead and give everyone the middlefinger and flee from your social responsibility but stop promoting the fucking mental degenerative idea of the vax doing harm to. If a person gets any harm out of a vaccine then this person has some sort of (undiscovered) health problem. If you react this strong on a vaccine then Covid is able to fucking kill you.

    I'm sick and tired of people going around spreading their twisted agenda and thus endangering everyone else. I'm not a fan either of getting a vaccine that isn't tested long but there is something called risk calculation. In your risk calculation only YOURSELF matters and nobody else and don't come up with covid is just a flu - it's not. And no there is no elite movement trying to put microchips into our body trying to control us. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of bullshit happening out in the world and many things going on behind the scene and I'm not denying that the rich try to enslave and supress the poor by keeping us addicted and busy in our own little lives. But promoting this anti-vax bullshit is fucking retarded. Seriously. If you don't want to get the vax for yourself. Fine, go ahead and do it but don't go around telling everyone to do either. This is the same borderline bullshit of religious groups going around preaching all kind of shit and I struggle to understand by now why everyone is so busy generating a narrative that this vax is harming and trying to infiltrate us. I guess it's some form self-identity that people get out of this whole "I am against it and more informed then anyone else". No you're not you're just an asshole making everything worse for everyone else then it is already. If everyone would get vaxed then this bullshit would be over already. Only the people that aren't affected by the whole covid situation are going around spreading all kind of bullshit.

    My mum who is struggeling financially since my fathers accident can't work 100% and earn her usual money because after 1,5 years of this whole pandemic, people are still failing to apply basic healthy logic onto a matter that could be solved by 1 month if people weren't fucking retarded and selfish. I spend the whole winter on myself in my apartment because meeting anyone would have put my father in life danger. As I said, I'm sick and god damn tired of people spreading all kind of pseudo-knowledge about a matter that is really important and which shouldn't get transfered into political agenda and discussion. People make it more complicated then it really is. And no, I'm not interested in any discussion on this topic. I'm just telling you straight into the face to keep that shit to yourself and don't infect anymore people with plain old stupidity, because after all that's what it is. I don't wanna know your facts, your reasoning or anything else. Just keep it for yourself.
     
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  20. mentorr

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    @sikreodds97 @DerJogge

    Before things get out of hand, a quick reminder of the title of this thread:
    P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

    While we all have our own opinions about the current pandemic, can I ask that the conversation be taken elsewhere (a different thread). This current thread might be one of the very few that has good, first-hand information from those of us trying to recover from sexual addiction.

    Like I said, totally understand that you both have an opinion, but you're both going off topic a bit.

    Politely asking you to carry it on elsewhere.

    Thanks
     
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