P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. Dave G 123

    Dave G 123 Fapstronaut

    I wish there was a "like" button equivalent for "I sympathize", because "like" makes it look like I like your current situation, which isn't correct. Hang in there dude.
     
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  2. Lmao, crazy situation man...#smh
     
  3. clapas

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    I'm in a similar situation after 27 months of no PMO. Progress is real but very slow and symptoms numerous.
     
  4. mentorr

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    Great stuff @DerJogge you should 100% be proud of yourself, what a solid achievement. I’m looking forward to the day that you make it out of this thing for sure.
     
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  5. KaliYugaWarrior

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    It all feels like a bad dream. I never knew I was killing myself slowly when I became addicted to masturbation. I didn't know recovery would be so tough. And by the time, I woke up, everything started changing so much. Covid, vaccines and all that shit. Big Pharma is in full swing now. Food is stuffed with pesticides. Number of diseases are rising. More censorship is coming. Makes me feel depressed to live in such a world. This is indeed Kali Yuga and it will only get worse.
     
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  6. Spartan1998

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    I’m on day 41, PAWS is hitting me really hard. I have extreme anxiety brain fog feeling extreme stressed and restless, heavy insomnia.
    I am taking Benzos at the moment for treating my withdrawal symptoms but it‘s not so good taking benzos in long-term because they make you also addicted.

    I am looking for an alternative to Benzos because without medications I can‘t handle my withdrawals.
     
  7. DerJogge

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    There is no alternative if you ask me. Withdrawal means facing the pain and enduring it. I went through multiple withdrawals and if you want to recover sustainable then you have to take the hard way.
     
  8. Spartan1998

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    Hm yeah I know what you mean, I tried a few times but I relapsed again and again, and so my withdrawals become so strong that I kinda need some medications..
    On which day are you currently? And do you still have withdrawals?
     
  9. KaliYugaWarrior

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    "Masturbation can make you blind!"
    This was always something that was dismissed as untruthful or myth by modern science or should I just say Big fucking pharma, but I'm on the road now where I can see the true effects of masturbation. Even if you have left masturbation, do not expect any recovery until you get your digestion right. Blindness probably happens because of inflammation of nerves and all the extra heat in the body (called Pitta Dosha in ayurveda) and bad digestion. So get yourself together lads before it's too late. All these supplements would barely save you! Ojas takes years to build up.
     
  10. There are Benzo forums talking about withdrawal symptoms from it. It produces almost the same effect as pmo fromnive read. I'd be careful about taking benzos.
     
  11. Re: benzos

    I would strongly, strongly, STRONGLY advise against this. If you get hooked then there is a possibility in the future of not only going through PAWS a second time but also dealing with the pains of withdrawal as well.

    Four and a half years ago I got sober from alcohol, withdrawal was the most excruciating thing I have ever had to experience in my 40+ years on this planet. PAWS is bad enough, acute withdrawal is next level hell on earth.
     
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  12. humbleone

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    What is the big danger with taking benzos now and then btw? I take them if I have important meetings etc. I avg 5mg a week probably
     
  13. The guy who had mentioned benzos is 41 days into recovery and PAWS can last 2+ years. There is a very real danger of dependency in using benzos to ease the effects of PAWS if it lasts that long.
     
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  14. Sylveon389

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    Two therapists helped me through porn and masturbation.
     
  15. UWSDave

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    Check out the Benzo Buddies forum. Really scary stuff. PAWS from PMO seems to be extremely similar to severe benzo withdrawal in a lot of ways, so if you’re someone who was susceptible to kindling from PMO then you’re probably at high risk for protracted benzo PAWS.
     
  16. Monkeyboyab2c

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    Yeah the stories of Benzo PAWS terrify me. @humbleone do you find any change in the severity of your PAWS symptoms a few days after use? I only ask because I’m curious how other substances effect this whole nightmare. I had a little too much to drink the other day 1 beer and 1 glass of whisky, (I know I’m a pathetic lightweight these days) and it threw me deep deep into paws for over a week now. I haven’t felt this bad in a while.
     
  17. mentorr

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    I am currently having this exact experience. Last week I was asked on a date and decided to go ahead. Naturally it turned into a whirlwind of drinking and I realised I had gotten complacent and let my guard down. I managed 4 drinks and basically hit a wall. It’s been 8 days since and while things aren’t as bad as the start and I feel as though I am recovering, I am still in a flatline. Currently waiting for the 14 day mark to see if things lift.
     
  18. humbleone

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    I used valium mostly to sleep, once a week or twice a month if Im tired but can't sleep I take half a valium. Or say if I have a pressured meeting at work.

    I dont personally notice any side effects nor find them addictive personally. For my first 18months of PAWS I didn't use them, but wish I had in certain situations. I don't want to advise people to start taking benzos as they can be highly additive, like Im sure if you start using them daily or close to this could be seriously dangerous and problematic
     
  19. Humanexperiments

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    I went out two weekends ago and had 7 0,5 l beers + around 8 drinks. Way to much. The drinking culture where I live is very bad, and binge drinking is the normal for guys my age unfortunately.... It definitely has a negative impact on the brain chemistry for many days after. I hope it doesnt hinder the reboot though, since its not really affecting the sex centers in the brain like porn.
     
  20. mentorr

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    I'll be honest, the excessive drinking that took place last week may have been a positive tip for my reboot. It has made me realise how complacent I have become over the past few weeks. After feeling a lot better in recent weeks, I have started to slowly, gradually go back to some of my old activities, almost believing I have crossed the finish line, when in actual fact I still have some way to go.

    Realising this, I decided to tighten things up a bit by going to bed no later than 11pm every night. Cutting out unnecessary phone usage and internet browsing, as well as taking a step back from music for a bit. The result over the last 8 days has been extremely positive, to the point where despite knowing I am in a flatline, mentally I am a lot sharper than I have been for a very long time. I am just hoping that at the 2-week mark this current flatline lifts. I think if it does, it will be a good indication that I am still on the mend, and that the recent drinking hasn't been too much of a negative hit on the reboot.

    A quick question from me @Humanexperiments - what are your current PAWS symptoms. How did you know that it was the alcohol that was having a negative affect on your recovery?
     
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