P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Yeah Im basically physcially incapaciated, hav ecrippling pressure all around my skull, this past 4 months have had some of the craziest darkest experiences of my life, I don't know how to get out of here

 

Hello everyone, I have been searching a lot about a similar case or a topic speaking about some edging issue but couldn't find it. About three or four years ago when I used to Edge (sexting or softcore porn; Instagram pics) after sometime I would feel heart palpitations then general fatigue, nowadays it feels like and panic attack or like passing out and some times such feeling is very severe like by simply searching a word or 'trying' to see something the symptoms will rush until I close the page. Anyone relates ?

Also I would like to ask for anyone who is experiencing PAWS or what's so called kindling effect (if any), is it fine to start a relationship (have sex) with my partner after or when these symptoms improve and I get over the addiction?

 

Hi. I’ve had PAWS for quite a while now. Somewhere around 2.5 years. I could calculate the actual months but at this point it doesn’t really matter. I would say yes if you are anything like me you can have a sexual relationship, but with consequences. I experience a major uptick in symptoms after orgasm. They usually arrive 3-4 days after sex and last several days. The same would happen after drinking alcohol. Now the question is was it worth it. For me it definitely was. The connection with my wife was a huge motivational factor to continue down this path. I certainly can’t answer that question for you however. Do I think it has prolonged my recovery? Yes definitely I do. My wife and I over the course of the last few months haven’t had nearly as much sex as normal due to several circumstances that would probably bore you. In those few months it’s felt like my recovery has progressed rapidly. I am not 100% healed by any stretch of the imagination. I couldn’t even give you an arbitrary percentage of where I’m at so how would I know. All I know is I have a lot and I mean a lot of good days now. So basically I would say I had sex the whole time. It had its consequences but ultimately I have still progressed substantially towards healing. Oh and when I orgasm now through sex or a wet dream I have little to no adverse symptoms. Same with alcohol.

 

Thank God, this gives me a relief. I have done about No PMO for two years (first year I had 3 resets about once every 3-5 months without a binge and all my symptoms were relieved after about 8 months), but due to edging I kept getting anxiety and weakness and this was the second year where I was only struggling with edging from time to time. Unfortunately I have relapsed two days ago and since then two wet dreams and fatigue but not as before with PAWS. Now I'm going to start again and No edging or any O this time for two years then I will engage, that's the plan.

Keep it up buddy and thanks!

 

This might be one of my last posts.

Haven't had a truly difficult day in a month or so.

A job offer in real estate fell into my lap and I go in tomorrow to interview/learn about it.

I would consider myself to be in a place where I can call myself a success story. I still have to consciously stay away from triggering content, and I still can't do a couple of things that I truly love (read and write fiction regularly), but I know that that stuff will come with time. I always kind of knew that those types of things would be the last improvements to arrive. They're very fine/delicate activities that require a 100% connection to life itself--something I don't fully have yet.

I'm 34-35 months in. Took a long ass time, and it ain't even over yet. Once I'm truly free I'll write something else up. But yeah, I can now confidently say that it gets way better. These last 2 months have been such a far fuckin' cry from where I was before. God damn man.

 

@zander13 really happy for you

 

I’m still in a huge anxiety and depression and completely lost

 

I was right where you are man. I still go through it a points but it has minimized significantly. Just keep going. Every moment of anxiety and Depression is you buying your freedom. It’s all incredibly worth it.

 

How many days are you at currently?

 

I’ve found the exact same thing. After orgasm or using alcohol etc.. it’s like the paws symptoms worsen for a few days then they stabilise.

 

I'm having strong and long withdrawals on day 265, since about 3 weeks, which is uncommon at this stage for them to be so strong and so long.

On July I had bad(but less so) and long withdrawals too for 3-4 weeks, and after I had 2-3 weeks where I felt on average better than ever since I started to recover, but worse than when addicted. Still some days were a bit better than when addicted, which is huge for me.

So from my experience after a bad and long period of withdrawals comes a period in which I feel noticeably better.

This recovery is taking much longer than I thought. I'm waiting for the moment when I feel good enough to start working again, as I got fired 2 months after starting this because I was not very productive.

 

Sounds like you're almost there man your just treading at the surface right now. In a little bit you will emerge fully just keep going and stay strong!

 

Hello all, its nice to see some of you progressing in your recovery.

I thought id check in once again and let everyone know how i am going.

I have basically hit the rock bottom of the rock bottom in terms of my recovery. My only issue is that i relapse after randomly waking up in the middle of the night, before i can control myself. As insane as that sounds it is a problem that i have not yet been able to solve and a problem that has brought me to my knees mentally all year. I have no problem while i am awake. I did have a 6 month streak this year which ended after the same issue i just described happened.

The absolute worst part of this is the reset it does to my symptoms. I have to go through initial withdrawal all over again, not to mention restarting the PAWS journey after initial withdrawal.

My head pressure is getting worse. The stress and anxiety of this insanity just keeps building as i am really at a loss as to what to do when i am unconscious.

I have resorted to wearing pants with a belt when i go to sleep and i guess ill now have to turn my phone off and leave it upstairs.

No matter how much i try my brain just does not want to cooperate with me right now. This situation has been the sole reason for any relapses this year and if i can somehow stop this habit i will be able to move onto recovery.

Now im looking at enduring the next 3 months with all the usual symptoms returning. Anhedonia is by far the worst and is almost unbearable to me now.

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On another note i have given up caffeine about a month ago after watching a video on how it can affect PAWS and possibly make recovery time longer. It makes sense my poor nervous system cant take a god dam stimulant drug. I'm clinging to the hope that this speeds up recovery in some sense. I am also tapering off my final antidepressant after trying 3 without them helping much at all. I know its going to be a brutal couple of months that lie ahead of me and that's only if i can control what happens at night time.

I will probably engage with the forum again for a while to continue my journey.

 

How many relapses did you have after the 6 months???

 

Access to your phone is a big deal. I don't touch mine after 9 pm each night, and leave it at the far end of my house from where I sleep. I also put it in airplane mode each afternoon, which is when I am most likely to struggle with urges. It definitely helps.

 

I had 1 relapse at night which kind of put me back into a cycle. Then ive also had about 1 relapse a month since then, all in the middle of the night.

 

Yeah for sure. I usually always keep it upstairs, but my most recent relapse during the night i forgot to take it upstairs and it was there when i woke up. From now on ill be leaving it off upstairs.

 

Day 1, i feel like my brain is frozen , like I am hungover

 

Hey guys, im on day 82. I have been doing Nofap on and off for 6 years, longest streak is about a year. I have had severe paws symptoms and i believe i still do. Social anxiety is something that has only gotten worse over time. Anhedonia is a tiny bit better, but still there. Its frustrating that i have spent so much time on Nofap and gotten nowhere. This year i lost all hope and i have had lots of relapses, however never a binge longer than 3 days. Now im back and im more motivated than ever. I have dicipline in my life in the form of cold showers, lower carb intake, being productive, etc, etc, and this time i have sworn to go 365 days strict Semen Retention: Just to see if i feel any better, have good days, or moments where im out of paws. Just so i truly know if my PAWS is real and if it really is all the porn and masturbation that fucked me up which i have always thought it is. Around day 40-65 i felt pretty alright and felt higher testosterone. Now im pretty much just feeling normal. But its good to be back, its good to take my life serious again and its good to have hope. My biggest wish is to have semen retention benefits and just be healed. I remember the feeling from the first few streaks i had before paws hit. The women magnetism, the confidence, the pure happiness. Man surely if i go long enough that feeling can come back. However its hard work, im not addicted to pmo anymore but i can have lows where i will fuck up, thats why dicipline is so important. And having a goal is important. And my goal is Semen Retention 365 days. I will be updating you guys in a few months time or if any intersting things happen. I havent been on here for like a year, have there been any new success stories with PAWS? WOuld love to read some.

 

So you went hardmode for a year and still had paws you're saying? Paws can last 3 years unfortunately you probably just needed more recovery time.