P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

On your long streak did you notice it getting better some days?

 

Yep after about 12 months i started getting days where i would be almost symptoms free. Usually it would be 3 weeks of paws then a few days off, it got better the longer my streak went. I wish i had those days during early recovery!

 

This is great to read. I'm almost 12 months in too and the last time I had symptom free days was in August.

Nowadays it's mostly bad and some rare not that bad days

 

Yo tb casi cumplo1 año terminando el mes y regresaron algunos síntomas, pero en general todo bien

 

Congrats on your 1 year streak! Yep just hang in there and you will see progress.

 

Guys I am suffering with sitting in front of computer. I feel drained after little time. It's not just eyes but my whole body feels drained and back and chest aches start.

It happens to me sometimes if I also focus while reading a normal book until I feel like enough.

Anybody relates to this? Did it improve? It's really frustrating me.. makes me as for my career...

 

Hi, I need your Help. I've been PMOing since the past 6 years.

These are the symptoms I noticed -
1. Cognitive Impairment
2. Massive ADHD
3. Concentration, Attention & Focus issues
4. Reduced Intelligence
5. Non existent Memory
6. Dead Brain (literally)

What should I do to get over these problems. Before PMO I wasn't always like this - I was the sharpest & brightest in the class. PMO is literally Methamphetamine

I'm a 20 Yr Male - started PMO when I was 14. Sucks to be me. Ignore my counter as I will be starting a new streak from Jan 1/23.

Give me an outline of the symptoms & signs and what to expect in my recovery and when can I fully recover

Thanks in Advance

 

If I were you, I would not wait for new year and just start now. Many make this mistake, but there's no benefit in starting at a specific date.

As for what to expect, it really depends on the individual, but I would guess, if you were born with a normal brain that's not super susceptible to addiction, that you would not take 2 years to recover at least.

The most important thing is to stick it out and not panic if you're not seeing any activity down there.

 

I would agree with @DGZ. There is no time like the present, get started right away. Jan 1st looks nice and all but why not get in 2 weeks of recovery for a head start?

In terms of your timeline you wont know until you progress into your recovery. I can say that a lot of people on here typically recover within the 3 month range. For us poor bastards on this thread our recovery has been much longer (3 - 30 months). I think edging is the reason why most of us have such a long recovery.

 

Yep almost 357 days here and suffering heavy withdrawals often still.

But I knew exactly this would happen before quitting, it's not my first reboot.

Before quitting I got desensitized to trans and gay porn again, so my brain was really fucked up.

 

Day 115,

Feel like im dead atm. Ill have the odd morning like the other day where I feel bright and want to go for a walk, and for the first part of the walk in nature I have a little moment, like happiness contentment for no reason. It wanes through the day then im back to being a lost empty shell of a man in bed.

Most notably from day 80 to today still I am getting waves of nausea and headaches and weakness, where when its bad I feel like I cannot move. IT comes for 24-48 hours then goes for the same, its completely disabling and im spending much of my life in bed wishing I could just sleep. I had some blood tests and it showed high lier enzyomes for ALT, High creatinine and high potassium. Im haing more bloo tests as doctor thinks I could of been dehyrated or something.

Ive read some other acounts of nausea on nofap, can any of you relate? It is single most the worst sympton ive had, but I didnt get it last streak.

Probably is nothing to do with NOFAP but I am a otherwise fit healthy lean man. Either way I hope it ends soon.

I had my first erotic dream last night, strange as I was feeling sick and crap when I went to sleep, certaintly not in anyway sexy. I dreamt o having sex with someone, weirdly in my dream I could hear myself saying I must not orgasm. I woke up with a hard erection in middle of the night. Then when I woke up properly a few hours later the nausea was back. Sort of ties the two together, but I dont know. Just want the nausea to end.

 

@DGZ @Ezpz Thank You

 

It simply shows that something was abnormal in your brain and now it's healing.Patterns are changing in your .So just hold on and keep going.never go back.I had this nausea feeling some 8-9 months ago from now and it was like around some 11-12 months of nofap.That time was very confusing for me.i didn't know what to do and how to react.I just felt like vomiting while travelling in car even for say 20-25 mints.It continued for some 2-3 months and then disappeared.This journey is weird and unique for everyone.just keep going and don't go back .With each day you'll feel better and get better.

I'm much much better now.

 

Quite right! I am currently on 607 days but I realized that after some 13 months clean I have watched some videos(not porn for sure) which were giving me dopamine hits and actually harming me.But I was ignoring.And that's why till date I'm unable to cure pied.Rest all other symptoms are gone and I'm mutch better.I consider myself one of the worst sufferers of pied here.
I hope one day I'll get better and can have normal sex with my wife.

 

I must also mention that I might have edged a couple of times in past 6 years. So am I prone to getting PAWS ? How long would the duration be ?

Should I cut out Movies, Video Games, TV Shows, Social Media ? as to speed up the Reboot Process ?

Can you suggest some Brain Supplements to improve my cognitive abilities & restore my intellect ?

I promise to one & all that I'll abide by my reboot Journey till the end of 2023 & make it a lifestyle

Thank You Very Much

 

I defiently agree that its a problem that you are starting on the 1 January and not NOW, that is typical addiction behavior and i know it all too well from my previous addictions. However i hope im wrong and that you indeed have the right mentality. I would say cut out all triggers, all light NSFW content. Forget about girls for a while, do STRICT semen retention. Eating a good diet will be great for your body, intermittent fasting too(18:6). Media, games, movies and such of course is great to quit, but maybe it will be too tought for you in the beginning. Remember that a lot of supplements deal with dopamine, serotonin, and gaba, so you dont wanna take them. You are actually trying to give your brain a rest and let it balance itself out. Multivitamins, fish oil, and vitamin d should be alright, but in my opinion you dont need it. Ton of eggs, fruits, vegetables, and meat. Good luck!

 

Thanks a Lot Pal

 

Wasn't from Sex alone he has all these problems??

 

Sex and masturbation to just my imagination, no porn. However yes in last 10+ years masturbation is rare.

AS a teenager and in my early twenties I masturbated alot, but never any porn. I would masturbate up to 3 times a day, usually the second and third of the day was compeltely flaccid I remember. Basically ever since I started masturbating have I struggled with depression low mood brain fog ED etc. I developed a technique of clamping my flacid penis and rubbing it to orgasm.

Generally ive always used ED meds to have sex when in relationships. But ive always been in relationships so I have regulary orgasmed through sex. MAsturbation is rare now, but I had my moments.

My first long streak 2 years ago was over 200 days and I was starting to feel good and small improvements in ED. I then met a girl who I thought was amazing fell in love and she was very sexual so I had alot of sex and orgasm with ED meds. I slipped back into being a shell of a man a few months into the relationship. She ende up being some pscyhopath narcisiist and on breakin gup with me got the police to charge me with harrassment which im actually going to court for a hearing tomorrow to defend myself!

So I had alot more orgasm and some masturbation prior to this streak an im in a worse position than on Day115 of my last long streak. I think this is likely to the amount of orgasm I was doing in the 18 month relationship. Was probably averaging3-4 orgasms a week, sometimes the 3 would be in one day.

This suggests that wecannot compare the #of days from one streak to another or between ourselves, it clearly depends to a degree on how much you have overdone it proceeding the streak.

I also never got this nausea last streak, but the relationship before my last streak wasnt very sexual at all.

It is interesting but also a bit defeating that I lost all the progress from my previous 200+ day streak, I started from a worse place this time round. But what should I expect... If I had been 200 days free from heroin and then went back to it for a 18 month binge of course I would be back before square one again.

So I have never really watched porn, it doesnt really interest me if I do.. But I have the same problems as the porn guys. I beleive its probably just regular orgasm that causes the issues. If I ever get there again I will try orgasmless sex with my next partner, but carefully as part of me beleives that being celibate is the key to happiness. Sure I can see how porn would stimulate guys to orgasm alot more but for me it was always the bliss of orgasm I was chasing.

Regarding my nausea, I relaised I do not pass stool very often and slow digstion can cause nausea. So for two days I have eaten hot vergatable soup and herbal teas in a hope to get things moving. Nausea has improved a little, I will report back here if I manage to find relief, fingers crossed.

 

In my experience, you go back further than square one if you relapse once recovered(or at least far along in recovery). By relapse I don't just mean the odd slip(that will set you back for sure but it won't erase all your progress) but going back to it on an at least somewhat consistent basis again. I actually have this theory that the timeline isn't all that different among rebooters. It's just that while the mild cases are starting from 0, some of us are starting from t-minus "X" number of days, once you've done your time to get back "up" to zero, the process will actually be largely similar for all - though with more jeopardy in our case.

If I were to edge to porn, or even just look at it for a while, I will get the same symptoms again. Orgasm probably compounds it but it isn't necessary in order to screw my brain up so I don't really go along with that idea. The problem is stimulation, anything that stimulates your brain is going to cause an issue. I remember on my last streak I was checking out some girl for a little too long and afterwards it felt like a mini relapse - headache/pressure, spaced out feeling, anxiety, overheating etc.