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P*rn laws

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Ghost in the Shell, Apr 2, 2020.

Choose all which IYO should be prohibited

  1. Production

    8 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. Sale

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  3. Possession

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  4. Use

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  5. No restrictions

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. In law there is always a trade-off between freedom and order. Will we enforce our vision of the world while trampling on people's liberty? Or will we take the permissive stance and risk serious self-inflicted damage to the society?

    I personally believe that porn is a dangerous drug which thankfully is not yet completely rooted in our societies like alcohol and cigarettes are. Therefore I think we would do best to treat all pornography the way we treat child pornography - ban it in its entirety. What do you think?
     
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  2. Porn is too ubiquitous for this to ever be enforceable.
     
  3. I disagree. If the ban got applied today, tomorrow all the big sites could be shut down. In the following weeks Interpol would fish out the smaller ones, eventually leaving pornographers at the same numbers as hired killers and such. Of course the laws would have to get passed worldwide, otherwise they'd just move the servers to a porn-friendly country.
     
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  4. Trk1

    Trk1 New Fapstronaut

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    I agree with u man

     
  5. Mistersofty

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    It would be nice. Just don’t see it happening in my lifetime.
     
  6. belio123

    belio123 Fapstronaut

    Would you outlaw alcohol and cigarretes if you could?
     
  7. Fomo Sapiens

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    My stance on porn use is the same as Bill Clinton's on abortion: it should be legal and rare. Unfortunately I don't see prohibition working - much like with prostitution, it would just go underground and become harder to police. The dark web would get darker.

    I think the best all-round solution is educating everyone on the harms. Porn sites should definitely go out of business, but not because the government shuts them down.
     
  8. ReclaimedLife

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    I would be happy if access to it would be impossible.
    But it's a fairytale world.

    We will always be living in a world where porn is a regular part of every day life for tons of people.
    It's going to be the people's responsibility to figure out how to deal with this properly
     
  9. skyfox

    skyfox New Fapstronaut

    There are several major flaws in outlawing pornography as a whole.

    First and foremost, how do you differentiate between what is considered 'pornographic' or otherwise? Pornography comes in widely varying explicitness and format. Sometimes it's videos, sometimes pictures. And then there's written pornography. Do you also ban any nude art that depicts the genitals that could possibly be used as pornography?

    Another issue is, the internet is incredibly vast, and there's much more than just the major sites like
    PornHub
    . Sure, getting rid of those sites would help. It would be nearly impossible to actually enforce a law like that, our police and government have a hard enough time trying to enforce child pornography laws. What do you think would happen if you tried to ban porn altogether?

    At the end of the day, as long as there is sex, people will photograph and film it, and they will write about it. It's just a fact. And depending on where you live, things like that can be protected under freedom of speech, especially writing.

    tl;dr It's great in theory, but would never happen in practice. Ultimately, it's up to you to remove porn from your life. After all, nobody is making you visit those sites.
     
    Ghost in the Shell likes this.
  10. Yes
    Cigarettes in 1900
    Alcohol in 3000 BC
     
    recon117 likes this.
  11. Thanks for the thoughtful answers so far btw
     
  12. There's a saying - you know it when you see it. I don't think anybody considers Michelangelo's David pornographic.
    That's true. However it's in the best interest of the capitalists who own the p*rn industry to increase consumption among the population - like with any business venture. And just as fast food chains do now and big tobacco had done before it was banned, eventually you'll see pornographers trying to make children their loyal customers. You can see hints of it already, for example
    the stepmom trope
    .
     
  13. recon117

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    Yes please! A big part of the problem is that porn is way too accessible. I mean I can reach a porn site with my E-reader or xbox WTF?!
     
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  14. The real problem in there is freedom.
    "your freedom ends where it starts mine", it is the golden rule.
    Your freedom to not watch P ends where it starts the freedom of another person to watch it.
    So in the end this is the main point. Period.
     
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  15. fredisthebes

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    I think an 'opt-in' model of pornography enforced by ISPs is the best solution overall. I've heard it mooted several times but it never seems to see fruition - possibly because pornographers know that a lot of their revenue comes from eg children/teens accessing the material by accident and then getting hooked, or married men accessing it in secret (etc).

    of course this will not eliminate the scourge of pornography forever - it doesn't intend to. And personally I would not want to see users, even frequent users, criminalised - they need our compassion and help. But I think a lot of men would not be tempted to view pornography quite so often if it meant an embarrassing call to your ISP - and potentially an extra bill in order to access this restricted part of the internet (perhaps it could be taxed and the money used to help victims of sexual abuse or human trafficking etc? or victims of porn addiction for that matter).

    We have similar restrictions on gambling sites in my country - the technology exists. It helps people with a problem, and it sends a clear message to everyone else that this stuff is dangerous and not to be consumed casually without being aware of its potentially damaging effects.
     
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