physical effects of sexual exhaustion

Maybe try talking to a counselor or psychologist about your symptoms.

 

So after having a horrible day of withdrawl symptoms I decided to have a small cup of coffee and it helped tremendously with nausea and brain fog. I had cut caffeine cold turkey at the beginning of the week because of a panic attack inhad on Monday. Probably not the smartest thing to do since i was ingesting about 300mg per day. I'll be reintroducing caffeine back into my daily routine slowly but will try to keep the milligrams per day way lower than before. Between 75 and 150 should be good.

 

Glad to hear you're ok @Rperez915

I have been rebooting for over 2 years now, and despite the time that has passed I am still trying to get my head around how random and sporadic withdrawal symptoms can be. At the beginning of my reboot I experienced:

• Brain fog
• Fatigue in the mornings
• Lower back pain
• Diarrhoea
• Anhedonia / Emotional numbness
• Anxiety
• Acne
• Tinnitus
• Eye floaters
• Severe Headaches / Migraines
• Low confidence
• Canker sores / Mouth Ulcers
• Insomnia
• Muscle cramps and spasms
• Joint cracking
• Irritability / Moments of Rage
• Very strange uncomfortable negative thoughts
• Moments of dizziness/light headedness
• Cravings for Sugar

After 2 years, a large majority of these symptoms no longer occur, or have lessened greatly. The point to make is that a lot of these symptoms will simply visit, as in they will come and go, then potentially reappear later down the line. For example, mouth ulcers were a very pronounced symptom. As painful as they were, they were a good indicator that I was entering back into a heavy flatline/PAWS period. Earlier in the reboot I couldn't look at a computer or TV screen for longer than an hour. Once I hit my limit of TV or screen use, I would immediately get a tension headache (too much dopamine?) and know it was time to get up and move to another activity. Now after 2 years, I no longer seem to have this problem. Headaches are a thing of the past that rarely occur anymore (touch wood lol).

The point to be made here, is that while PAWS/flatline is an absolute nightmare, things definitely get easier, but also its worth using the symptoms as guidelines to what is happening in your reboot. I am not saying reviewing symptoms makes progress clear as day, but it is definitely a start.

Hope this helps

 

wow, i can really relate to all your symptoms here, im 32 old with 17 years of heavy pmo use, i start to experience these symptoms in my early 20s, and with the past 5 months 100% clean, i still dont have too much psychically health improvement, may i ask how long do you feel the significant improvement? is it after 2 years clean? and what problem you still left with such long rebooting? do you think you are back to a normal healthy guy now? and may i know your actual age.

and what do you think the cause to all these symptoms u list above? is it due to a damage to your brain chemistry? I experience all these 10 yrs ago, and i dont believe they are part of PAWS, one chinese traditional medicine doctor used to told me these symptoms is relate to your kidney,liver qi deficiency etc..

I am currently doing some breathing/meditation exercise,hopefully it can speed up the recovery, because my body is constantly stayed in a flight or fight mode with pmo. have you try this?

thank you

 

I think the thing to remember is that recovery is different for everybody. My lifestyle is different to yours, biologically we are different, also I may have PMO'd longer than you (or vice versa). There are too many factors to pin down exactly when you will feel better. If you are doing a solid hard mode reboot with no O's you will naturally recover quicker than the majority. If you are doing hard mode, meditating regularly AND rewiring (without O) you will likely recover even quicker in my opinion. Most people say that between months 6-9 is the sweet spot where you begin to notice considerable improvements (even if they are gradual). For me I would say it was the 2 year mark where I really started to notice my old self coming back to the surface. I started to feel emotions a bit more, I could interact socially without feeling anxious, I no longer experienced insomnia or fatigue in the mornings but most of all I gained an urge to begin moving my life forward again. I started to think about getting a new job, earning a higher salary, travelling, spending time with family and friends. There was/is an urge to put myself out there and do something with my life.

In terms of being back to normal, I would say I still have some way to go. How far? I honestly don't know. At 28 months of recovery, the best case scenario would be recovering fully by Dec of this year (next month). Fair case scenario I recover by March 2022. Worst case scenario, I recover July 2022 or longer (which would make it a 3 year recovery). After having a wet dream a week ago, I am currently in a flatline and emotionally my body is all over the place. I am moody, irritable and the smallest things are currently getting to me. But this time around I know it is simply a chemical imbalance occurring and that by next week I will feel much better. Outside of flatline my brain is still a bit foggy at times, I don't have the mental quickness I once had. Next to that, I can't feel emotions fully like I could before, and this is what makes it difficult to interact most of the time. However the main issue right now is still PIED. I don't think I have had serious morning wood in maybe 50-60 days which just suggests that I am still healing and need to continue being patient. I can openly admit that over these past few months I have received a lot of sexual images from exes and old flames, and at times taken a peek for a moment or two. I would say avoid doing this even in the later stages of your reboot. While in the moment you won't feel anything it will surely effect your progress. Also through complacency I begun to drink socially with friends which has definitely had a negative effect on my recovery so avoid both for as long as you can.

I have spoken to 2 different Chinese doctors who believe my symptoms match that of liver Qi stagnation. I agree that my symptoms match that of Qi stagnation but also I do think PIED has caused a change in brain chemistry. At this point we just don’t know exactly how Qi stagnation and PIED relate to one another (or if they do at all!). I have my own theories but there just isn't enough research to compare the two. For safe measure, I currently abstain from PMO, take vitamins to sustain my liver function and meditate to make sure I hit all bases of recovery. What I will say is that over the past 2 years of recovery, the skin on my face has a yellow tone to it, my hair is extremely brittle and sometimes falls out when I comb it, and I often have dark circles around my eyes - almost like I haven't slept. My ears still ring throughout the day and I regularly get acne (although not as bad as before) when flatlining. The doctors are convinced that these are all symptoms of Qi stagnation. While I am not saying they are right and I am also not saying they are wrong, at this point I think it makes sense to keep an open mind so that once recovered I can pass this info onto the next severe PIED sufferer.

Most of all I am sorry to hear that you are going through such a drawn out recovery - if it helps, you are not alone and there are many others (life myself) who are willing and ready to provide you with support as and when you need it.

 

I've had eye floaters and visual snow syndrome develop sometime after I began masturbation with porn in my late teens. Dunno if it's related to sexual exhaustion or whatever but would be really cool to see if it clears up after a few months doing no PMO on hard-mode.

My last streak was 15 days and after 3 days into no PMO I was blown away by the fact that my "weird anxious physical symptoms in my arms and shoulders" dissolved completely. Was also less prone to getting anxious after drinking coffee. Of course I'm the type of fapper who goes all out with death-grip and a ton of tension on my arms and shoulders. During a binge the stress I'd put on my body would be so bad that after a session my ears would start hissing for a few minutes and I'd get a feeling of blood rushing to my head when I'd stand up. So I'm not sure if these symptoms in particular could be attributed to sexual exhaustion in particular but they're definitely associated with strenuous fap sessions.

 

really appreciate ur info here, really surprise for me is that it can take up to YEARS to get a fully reboot, most of the review include Gary wilson video saying u should have a significant recovery by 6 months mark. But I just dont see this can happen to me. With the past 5 months reboot, the most significant improvement for me is the hair lost and chronic coughing is gone, and little better energy of course, vivid dream occurring, and one morning wood(not very strong) in every week..But still have serious sleep/digestion/energy/brain fog/cold sensitive/floater/ear tinnitus/anxiety/over thinking problem.

I can feel the improvement, but seems it can take forever to heal, which really downgrade the quality of my life. Cant work properly, cant social properly, cant even get into a normal relationship. I really miss the old me in my high school time...

Another question here, I can keep 100% clean when i am fully awake in the day and night time. But during the middle of the night or dawn when the insomnia attack, I am about 50% awake, my willpower is weak at that time, and i tend to masturbate unconsciously, which i bust 2 times in the past 5 months. Do you have any idea that i can stop this?

 

Guys I recently purchased some supplements such as magnesium, zinc and vitamin d3. They seem to help tremendously. Not even 1 week yet and I'm feeling lil bit better. They seem to speed up the recovery especially brain fog and constipation. I can't wait how things gonna play out in the next 2 weeks or next month.

 

Looking through these threads, there is actually a large number of people who masturbate while half asleep. I think the community agrees that masturbation while dreaming is not a relapse, however masturbation while half asleep is a relapse. Masturbating while in a half-awake state relates to the mind. The degree of addiction is so 'familiar' that it plays out in your mind subconsciously, meaning you are unaware of it happening. The brain (or mind) sits at the top of the body for a reason and that is because it is responsible for the functioning of the rest of the body.

To stop yourself masturbating while half awake, try to to reinforce the idea of not masturbating wholeheartedly. The great thing about the subconscious mind is that it does not know the difference between what is reality and what is your imagination. Have you ever set your alarm for 8am and found yourself waking up at 7:59 on the dot? Almost as if your body has awoken itself? This is similar to what I am referring to. If you begin to suggest to yourself that 'I will not touch my penis during sleep', if done regularly and with enough focus the brain will gradually start to pull in the same direction as you and use its resources to assist with your goal. Start using this to your advantage. Do not use your dick unless you need to use the toilet or are cleaning it. Cut out all forms of sexual images (if you haven't already), read the posts of those that have come before and after you. Really take the time to understand what you are trying to achieve. Most of all don't give yourself a reason to look or indulge in anything sexual. A week ago I had a wet dream and I vividly remember the dream being about a girl that had messaged me the day before. I hadn't even messaged her back, but I did spend a few moments mentally admiring her profile picture. This was obviously enough for my mind to pick up on it and create a memory for the following night. Definitely not the end of the world, but the wet dreams can add up if you are not careful.

Finally if you meditate, avoid meditating before bed. Watch your sugar, carbs and alcohol intake and start managing your mind. With time I'm sure you will begin to see improvements.

 

why meditating b4 bed is not good? isnt it promote deeper sleep?

 

What were your symptoms? I have sever chronic pain that I suspect is linked to pmo. Muscle pains, burning nerve pains and breathing issues. They've caused me to have to stop working and live with my parents. I'm hoping nofap may at least help.

 

Have you noticed any improvement in your symptoms during long streaks? If so, how long did it take?

 

You may want to check this thread - https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/15-years-of-hell-that-led-me-to-nofap.330054/#post-3319395

 

this path is well worth the effort

 

Inflammation u say ? On like your limbs?

 

I hope this post gets max interaction... Because if it does I am highly highly grateful to the guy... So here it goes: As this quote from a PMO addiction recovery type site (similar to YBOP) says ''If you choose to put your NoFap on steroids by meditating, learning and playing musical instruments regularly, reading regularly, exercising regularly, eating healthy on NoFap, you’ll recover faster than the person that’s doing none of these things.

All these activities are dopamine receptor builders. Doing these things together with your NoFap is like taking a jet to your destination instead of a car.''

And here is what I want to say: I m a mild addict kind of to say at least, and I have a good memory about how I used to feel before I got addicted. Now, lets keep past as past, right now if and whenever I do all those activities mentioned above even if starting to do like building on smaller steps, I would obviously be conscious about what I m doing lets say as u would be, but there will be a time when you start doing those without much thinking, agree?... Now as soon as I finish doing those activities I feel as if my brain is resisting positive emotions, it feels like my dopamine d2 receptors have become alergic to such rewarding activities. So my question is, is this normal during recovery and keep going so that one day it will be fixed? Or should I bang my head on a wall? Lol!! I m confused, I need help, I obviously gave up PMOE completely past 4 months, have blockers everywhere, plans for urges, etc no going back is concrete!
Someone who has been through this stage or a veteran can answer this nicely I guess. If u would, I would be highly grateful really, this is the final struggle for me. Pls

 

Does 90 days enough to ease no 5 and no 7 symptoms? Very mind addict guy here with 3yrs pmo

 

1. If your brain has become allergic the only solution is to cut the substance.
2. Your problem lies elsewhere. You need to realize that e.g. a person allergic to alcohol cannot drink. Because alcohol has become rejected by his body and it will always act like a poison on so many levels to him.
3. Therefore, the person has to ditch the alcohol forever.
4. This causes understandable mental stress "whaaat? no alco aymore FORREVAAAAH?!"
5. It doesnt mean its not possible, it only means your ego and brain crave the drug.
6. Solution lies in making a hard choice. Perhaps after 5-6 years you might be able to drink again without massive bad consequences, but the real question would be: WOULD YOU REALLY WANT TO?
7. Sober life is MUCH cooler and you will BE much happier
8. Most of our society is deeply addicted to at least 1-2 substances. By not taking any, you become more powerful.
9. See you on the other side! My last drug is sugar. I ditched everything else.
10. Life always seeks the mean, it wants balance. If you put on one side of the scale using drugs and porn for 10 years, now you need 10 years of sobriety on the other half.