PIED cured after 8 months!

Angus McGyver said:
The past two years of hard-mode has done wonders for my personal development as I turned from a needy, anxious, semi-depressed and reactive child to a confident, satisfied and grown up man. I have matured a lot during that time while learning and acquiring plenty of new skills and interests along the way, some of them which are now leading up to the starting of my future business-adventures and future successes for sure.
Click to expand...
So glad to hear brother, so glad to hear.
 
Angus McGyver said:
Although I am single still, I actually don't have much problem with it these days since I have worked a lot on myself and feel good not being bonded to anyone. Although I would like to get laid sometime (preferably not during a ONS), it isn't something I stress about these days because I know the more you stress about it, the less of it you will get.
Click to expand...
It's okay to don't have any problem with being single. But eventually, I feel that bonding and sex is rated very high by our reward systems. After a successful reboot, one should seek out a partner as that would definitely help in not relapsing as well. Not saying that partner is a replacement of porn, but fulfilling this desire in a natural manner will bring about its own fruits which is greater than being single in the long term.
 
winningover said:
It's okay to don't have any problem with being single. But eventually, I feel that bonding and sex is rated very high by our reward systems. After a successful reboot, one should seek out a partner as that would definitely help in not relapsing as well. Not saying that partner is a replacement of porn, but fulfilling this desire in a natural manner will bring about its own fruits which is greater than being single in the long term.
Click to expand...

It totally depends since you shouldn't seek out a serious relationship until you are comfortable on your own first. Being single in the long-term is exactly what most guys would need since that would give them some time and a chance to create a great life without having that neediness on a relationship for it to feel complete.
Because, if you do have a great life besides that relationship, it wouldn't be a disaster if it ends since you have plenty of good things to fall back on. But if you do enter one with the attitude that "I won't feel complete until being in a relationship and having regular sex", you should consider doing some serious work on yourself first before entering one because if you go into it with that frame of neediness, much of your world will fall apart as soon as it ends. I have seen plenty of guys who can't remain single for even a few months after a breakup since they have that neediness of always wanting and needing someone in their life.
By dedicating so much of their free time to their "significant other" in order to please them, they don't have much time over to work on their interests, hobbies, goals and purposes in life (like a new business idea that requires lots of own time) and continue to live a mediocre life because of that neediness.
 
Hi

I'm an SO , my husband has pied & I'm wondering where in recovery he might be. We've gone soft mode. He's on day 144 and can maintain an erection now. However he's not get spontaneous erections during the day and if I attempt to touch him it's very slow going up. Which obviously is way better than it was.

Any advice would be great , I'm hoping one day his erections will become instant again.
 
MidnightOwl said:
Hi

I'm an SO , my husband has pied & I'm wondering where in recovery he might be. We've gone soft mode. He's on day 144 and can maintain an erection now. However he's not get spontaneous erections during the day and if I attempt to touch him it's very slow going up. Which obviously is way better than it was.

Any advice would be great , I'm hoping one day his erections will become instant again.
Click to expand...

hi, its great to hear from a significant other on these forums. I would say it would depend on a few things.

1) if there was any porn use at all in those 144 days. This is the main one. To make real progress you must stay absolutely clean.

2) how long he used porn for

3) how long each session was

4) how many times a day/week was it done

5) age

there are others but i would say that those are the main factors that play a role in an individual’s recovery. In terms of length of time its hard to really say. I would say if you are seeing progress then thats great, keep doing what he is doing. Some take 6 months to 2 years for a full recovery so we just have to be patient and let the rewiring process take its course.

I have heard bonding really helps the rewiring process so you could try that.

hope this helps :)
 
Clean in those 144 days

Pmo for around 20 months

Aged 43

Session times quick ish I think to save getting caught ( think he ended up with death grip to ). Although he's never really told me times , just that it wasn't a long time.

Pmo Daily sometimes twice
 
Last edited:
MidnightOwl said:
Hi

I'm an SO , my husband has pied & I'm wondering where in recovery he might be. We've gone soft mode. He's on day 144 and can maintain an erection now. However he's not get spontaneous erections during the day and if I attempt to touch him it's very slow going up. Which obviously is way better than it was.

Any advice would be great , I'm hoping one day his erections will become instant again.
Click to expand...
Soft mode takes a lot of time for people with PIED. I think for people with PIED hardmode is necessary but it's not always possible so waiting is the only option you have, or hardmode. The reason why his progress is slow is because he is not deprived of the dopamine hit while orgasming so if you want to have sex and heal him too at the same time, ask him not to orgasm as if he does it's gonna take a long time for him to heal. Try karezza if possible. All the best!
 
I think I stupidly thought 90 days and all would be fixed. And for the most part it is , he can maintain erections with distraction's now. It's just the most that hurts is the none arousal to kissing , touch ( although it does go up , abeit slowly ) which is massive progress from not feeling me at all.
We have sex on his terms , normally once a week.

I guess everything is starting to look better - not swollen thickened skin , shrinkage has all but gone. Just all round looks and feels like his , if that makes sense?

I did want to add - I'm so proud of you all for making a change & getting rid of pmo from your lives & treating your partners better :)
 
MidnightOwl said:
I think I stupidly thought 90 days and all would be fixed. And for the most part it is , he can maintain erections with distraction's now. It's just the most that hurts is the none arousal to kissing , touch ( although it does go up , abeit slowly ) which is massive progress from not feeling me at all.
We have sex on his terms , normally once a week.

I guess everything is starting to look better - not swollen thickened skin , shrinkage has all but gone. Just all round looks and feels like his , if that makes sense?

I did want to add - I'm so proud of you all for making a change & getting rid of pmo from your lives & treating your partners better :)
Click to expand...
It's gonna take some time, 90 days is just to see some small changes. Although his progress is a lot so I'm happy for you guys. I'm proud of me too xD, thanks!
 
Hey man congrats your story is somewhat similar to mine in terms of me joining nofap 2 days ago because of my pied

I’m in a similar place as you were.
I’m 24 years old, been masturbating for probably longer than 10 years and watching/not watching porn. I’ve had girlfriends, sexual partners. And if I’m being honest with myself as of late it’s been awful and very embarrassing for me.

I’ve had erectile dysfunction problems since college. Watching porn and masturbating was normal for me whether it’s in the morning or after school/work I’ve done it for years. It relieves stress and it feels good in the moment.

The problem now is that I’ve conditioned myself to masterbate or watch porn. I can still get hard with either but it’s not really gratifying.

About 7 months ago me and this girl I dated for 3 years broke up. And since then my masterbating frequency increased to a couple times a day.Because well I was either bored or not having sex. It gets depressing. And emotionally damaging to myself.

I’ve been with a few girls since then and have had sex. But several times when I’ve tried to have sexual encounters with new women. I just go limp. I know I shouldn’t masterbate. And the women are attractive too and I’m attractive to them. But I can’t get hard, I can’t get it up, and I can’t penetrate as of late. But I know my conditioning and sensitivity has been fucked up years ago.

The biggest problem I have is to sustain a erection when I’m going to have sex with a girl. The most depressing this is the look on there faces “what the fuck is wrong with you look” lol. It’s not actually funny at all when it happens.

Unfortunately this has happened several times with a lot of beautiful girls that leave pissed or confused. It happened in the beginning of the relationship with my ex gf where she actually cried because she thought I didn’t think she was pretty which wasn’t the case at all. It wasn’t them it was me.

Reading your story was inspirational for me. The most difficult thing I think is the timeline of how long the reboot actually is. I also want to have sex but I’m terrified of not being able to get it up if you know what I meanz everyone’s different, I literally joined this two days ago but I’ve known about it for a while. We all have the same goal. And mine is to make my dick work properly again because it’s embarrassing.
Congrats and GoodLuck!
 
TRUE POWER said:
Reading your story was inspirational for me. The most difficult thing I think is the timeline of how long the reboot actually is. I also want to have sex but I’m terrified of not being able to get it up if you know what I meanz everyone’s different, I literally joined this two days ago but I’ve known about it for a while. We all have the same goal. And mine is to make my dick work properly again because it’s embarrassing.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the feedback brother. Yes, the timeline is difficult indeed but like I discussed in my post, we really have no other way out but to do the reboot and rewire our brains to become healthy. If we continue delaying our reboot, we are only decreasing our quality of life with every passing day and also making our reboot journey more difficult. Just remember that delaying your reboot is only making your reboot (whenever you decide to do it) more difficult. And when you recover, you will get many other benefits besides a working dick. But to recover, you need patience, perseverance and most importantly KNOW what you're achieving and KNOW that pain is temporary, benefits are Permanent.
 
I'm 36 and a virgin. I've been PMO free since August 2017. I've since done 2-3 three months hardmode and one 6 month hardmode.(Currently on hardmode for as long as possible as part of my new year's resolution)

I don't believe I experience symptoms related to PIED apart from erectile dysfunction, lack of reaction to real sexual stimuli and no libido (My penis is rarely dead anymore but still a little bit smaller than it should be).

Therefore, my moments of anger and crying, I believe, could well be emotional/psychological (ie, I have hard time not focusing on regrets of missing out on my youth) and not related to PIED.

Anyway, even though my recovery (based on the above info) seems to be on track, I don't feel that I would be able to get an erection with a woman (whether this is because of PIED or because of my heavy emotional problems, I don't know).

I danced and kissed (and sexually touched) a beautiful woman few weeks ago, but I didn't get much erection.

I just, for whatever reason, don't identity with the recovery stories of other people whatsoever - it just seems like something that cannot happen to me as I have extra problems apart from the PIED (ie, the emotional/psychological issue of missing out on young sex coupled with the life's stressors of nearly two decades).
 
winningover said:
My dear friends and brothers here. I always wondered if there will ever come a day where I will be posting under the "success stories" forum. The day has come and I can't believe it. This is my first post under "success stories" forum. 2019 was by far the most difficult year of my life and one of the very few things that gave me hope during this year was success stories I read here. So, I hope someone some day reading this will also get the required force and motivation to get out of the horrible web of porn.

My brief history
​
I am 30 years old and started on porn at about age 15. As far as I remember, I started on high speed porn at about the age of 17. This means that I have been an addict for at least 12 years if you only count my PMO years on high speed internet porn. On average, I used to PMO for about 3-5 times a week, sometimes less sometimes more but never more than once in a single day.

Why I Started NoFap
​
I started only and only because of PIED. I seemingly had no other issues with porn. I was quite successful in studies during younger years and I have been quite successful in other areas of life as well after completing my studies. I used the word "seemingly" because now I have realized that porn was definitely affecting me in other areas of life without my realization. And I feel that more benefits are yet to come as I recover my brain and body from porn. I have read many accounts of long rebooters in which they saw improvements in their mind, bodies and overall life for upto two years after leaving porn.

How my Journey started
​
I got married at the end of 2018. I was very much physically attracted to my wife and was looking forward to having abundant sex. Then came the first night and as you can already guess, I got no response from my buddy down there. That was quite shocking to me considering how horny I was in my mind about our marriage and finally getting the chance to have real physical sex with the girl I love. I thought that maybe anxiety or over excitement got to me and thus no response from my body. I definitely knew that I was not anxious or nervous at all but still your mind brings up some kind of justification to let it go. Then we went to honeymoon for 2 weeks and still my penis wouldn't respond to advancements from my wife at all. 2 months passed and still no intercourse. I didn't PMO in these 2 months as well because I had decided to leave porn once I get married. At that time, I didn't know the damages of porn or whether porn could be addiction. I just had decided that I should not be dependent upon pixels once I have a real physical girl with me. Since I didn't watch Porn or PMO in the first 2 months after marriage, I had unconsciously started my detox as well. I wish the recovery from PMO addiction could be that quick. So what happened after 2 months is that my body went into flatline. Not knowing at all, what is happening to my mind and body, I rushed to porn to check whether my system is still working. It was working indeed. I got erection from porn, could keep erection for long, had an orgasm. Everything was just like old times except that now my wife was sleeping alone in the other room at 2am in the night without getting the physical connection she was supposed to get from her husband and everything that comes with it. My guilt was high but my mind kept telling me that its not my fault. In the third and fourth month of my marriage, my PMO sessions frequency was back to where it was before I got married. I buried the guilt of not having any sex at all with my wife for this much time and tried to go through my life normally. Despite no sex, our relationship went along. My wife was understanding and we both thought that my body need some time etc.

At the end of fourth month, my wife asked me that I should visit a doctor regarding this. This came as a total shock to me since it was clear that my wife is saying to me that there something physically wrong with me that needs to be sorted out. She was right but I tried my best to convince her that there is nothing wrong and she has seen that I get erections when I am asleep and able to orgasm through her hands. This indeed turned to be a moment of change because after that long discussion with my wife, I googled, "Able to get erection with porn but unable to get it with a real physical girl". The results that came through literally changed my life. In the following week, I read hundreds of accounts of different people on this website and others regarding PIED, porn addiction, brain rewiring, reboot, science behind this and what not. I let a HUGE sigh of relief, explained my wife the whole thing. Thankfully, she was really helpful and did her part of research as well regarding this and kept giving me new information here and there.

The REBOOT
​
And now the real battle begins. I officially started my reboot on 30-Apr-2019. My reboot was "No Porn and No Masturbation". We decided that we will continue the orgasm part through my wife giving handjob since orgasm itself is not the issue but Porn is. I had no idea what I signed up for until withdrawals hit me. In the first one to two months, I went through what they call acute withdrawals which hit you immediately. They were random body pains, stomach pain, insomnia, cravings etc. The most difficult part is Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome or PAWS. They are psychological in nature and start after about 30-60 days. I am still going through PAWS as I write these words right now after 8 months. From what I have read, PAWS may continue for upto 2 years depending upon the severity of your addiction. I think PAWS are the most difficult obstacle in this journey and perhaps one of the biggest reason for relapse. Since they are psychological in nature, your life literally goes upside down. My PAWS include social anxiety, general anxiety, panic attacks for no reason, taking high stress for a very small thing, brain fog etc. As I said above, I am still going through PAWS and will write a separate post on PAWS. People and youtubers don't talk much about PAWS because people don't want to hear about it. The 90 day reboot is not true at all as well for people like me who started on high speed internet porn at young age without any prior real sex experience. And the latest research on yourbrainonporn and long term rebooters have confirmed this. 90 day period "may" be true for people who started on high speed porn at a later stage in their life when their brain and body knew what real sex and real girl is. Sadly, the 90 day period does NOT apply to us AT ALL.

My PAWS went really bad after about 4 months into reboot. I don't have words to depict what I went through because of my PAWS. Whether it is my work, or meeting with family/friends, you name it. It was a living HELL. My PAWS only starting getting better into my 7th month. Keyword here is better. People need to be aware what is coming at them so that they try to get themselves ready as much as possible.

After about six months into reboot (10 months into marriage), we tried to have intercourse but no success. I started getting some response from my penis but never strong enough and long enough for a successful intercourse. After this, I asked my wife to not give me handjob as well. I decided to go hardmode from here onwards i.e. No porn, No masturbation and No Orgasm.

SUCCESS!
​
So guys and girls, after 2 months of hardmode and a total of 8 months reboot, I was able to have first intercourse of my life about 2 nights ago. In last 36 hours alone, I have had four intercourse with my wife. My penis gets erect very easily now and with full strength and I am also able to easily maintain my erection throughout the intercourse. This is literally a dream come true for me after a very very long 1 Year. Guys, we have literally destroyed ourselves, our bodies, our minds with this crap. Just imagine the agony of not being able to have sex for 1 year with the girl you love, you married and saw all those dreams with. I cannot even imagine going back to this toxic crap. And after you start having real sex, you can see how different and opposite porn is as compared to real sex. Porn creates a void in your soul, leaves your mind empty just craving for more. Sex is fulfilling and what our body and mind are designed for. I can just go on and on as to how much porn destroys you without your knowledge. And it is coming from a person who had no issues with porn at all before marriage. If it wasn't for PIED, my relationship with porn would have never ended. I NEVER thought that just seeing something could be an addiction and could have such horrible effects on your mind and body. Thankfully, my wife was very understanding, helpful and patient. A normal girl would have left me a long time ago. Abstinence from Porn needs to be your life style, PERIOD! I am not against counting days as it can be very helpful for some keeping track of their success in the beginning. But in the long term, porn doesn't exist for you.

Some Tips & Tricks​

  1. Realize how harmful porn addiction is and what you're doing to yourself. Realize that by leaving porn, you aren't missing out on anything fun/good/exciting. Reading all the research, reboot accounts, nofap youtube channels and books in this regard is really helpful. I am attaching a book which I found really helpful.
  2. Leaving porn doesn't only mean that you stop watching that particular content on screen. It means that you stop thinking about porn, stop imagining it, stop playing those scenes in your mind, stop imagining it when you orgasm or masturbate without porn. Even when you imagine or recreate scenes from porn in your mind, for brain, its like you are watching porn. You are only going to prolong your reboot further by doing this. I read this somewhere and I feel it really sped up the rebooting process for me in last 3 months. I know this is really tough in the beginning but with practice and time, it will get easier.
  3. Be very careful about the stuff you watch especially during your reboot. In real life or otherwise. The hot photos on social media, insta, facebook, random websites. The content you watch on tv, movies, seasons and what not. Stop watching anything that may act as a trigger for you. Besides trigger, this will also make your reboot longer and painful. After your successful reboot, you need to make it a lifestyle. Watching random hot bikini babes on pixels is doing no good to your mind.
  4. Find hobbies. Believe me, the extra time and energy you get after leaving this crap, needs to be put into something useful very quickly. Whether it is hitting the gym you have been procrastinating for years, or seeking a real life girl, or improving your skills in some areas or reading a book or meditation. Whatever it is, it needs to start asap after you start your reboot.
  5. Learn about withdrawals esp PAWS and how to go through them. Get ready to go through a difficult phase during reboot but KNOW what lies ahead. KNOW that it is temporary and a much better life awaits you on the other end. The longer you delay your reboot process, the lesser the quality of life will be and eventually the more painful the reboot process. This is emergency. Whoever and wherever you are, you have got to start your journey NOW.
  6. I have also gotten very close to GOD during this time so this point is for those who believe there is a Creator out there who made us and everything. Get close to God. For Muslim Fapstronauts, start reading and understanding Quran immediately. The code to success has already been given by our Creator. Start praying 5 times a day to begin with. For all others, get close to God, speak to God who is in your heart all the time. I know if you truly approach Him, your journey will become easier.
Ending Remarks
​
I hope my above post may help someone out there trying to get out of this vicious porn trap. Just don't get disheartened if your reboot is taking a long time. I got really down after 7 months into my reboot when I was still not recovered from PIED and PAWS were killing me. Just then I read some of the accounts here:

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/por...-erectile-dysfunction-is-taking-way-too-long/

And it gave me motivation to push on. And now fast forward 30 days and I have recovered from PIED for life. FOREVER. Just imagine if I had given up at that time and stopped believing or relapsed???? I can't even begin to imagine how lost I would have been then. Just know and realize that this is the only way forward. Besides PIED, porn is also a major reason of depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, anhedonia or other brain related conditions in our generation. You only get to know the difference when you throw this poison out of your body, brain, soul and life for forever! May God bless you all.
Click to expand...
Really great man, I am happy and as well as a bit panicked reading your story, that what exactly the disaster it is(porn) otherwise sometimes I start to dive some excuses to myself
 
MidnightOwl said:
Hi

I'm an SO , my husband has pied & I'm wondering where in recovery he might be. We've gone soft mode. He's on day 144 and can maintain an erection now. However he's not get spontaneous erections during the day and if I attempt to touch him it's very slow going up. Which obviously is way better than it was.

Any advice would be great , I'm hoping one day his erections will become instant again.
Click to expand...
I would suggest to go hard mode now until PIED is cured. The same happened to me. After 6 months, I started getting response from my penis i.e. getting hard without porn. After that, I did two months hard mode and got cured.
 
Depressed&Out said:
Anyway, even though my recovery (based on the above info) seems to be on track, I don't feel that I would be able to get an erection with a woman (whether this is because of PIED or because of my heavy emotional problems, I don't know).
Click to expand...
You cannot pass such sweeping negative statements about yourself just based on whim and feelings. You haven't been with a woman physically then how can you say this? If you read my post closely, I couldn't have sex with my wife for one complete year and that was my first time with any woman physically. So should I have just given up thinking that there is sth wrong with me? And you haven't even been with a woman physically yet! Its great that you've started your reboot. Even if you have PIED, it will be cured through reboot.
 
winningover said:
Does bonding help in curing PAWS?
Click to expand...

Hmm im not too sure on that one. My guess is that it could help make the addiction pathways weaker. We want to unwire or forget those PMO memories as best we can so i think anything that speeds up that process is helpful with the healing symptoms too.

Either way, it cant hurt :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top