PMOing after streaks causes greater pleasure and more damage?

If you feel that you'll be able to successfully limit yourself to your set times then there's no harm in giving it a go, especially if you reduce the time allowed over time, or the number of days between uses as you get better at it. You could find that it's difficult to do successfully though, and have a think about whether you're subconsiously trying to justify not giving up porn.

I found this the other day on the Your Brain on Porn website. It struck a chord with me as I too engage in binges after longer periods of abstinence. For me, I've been thinking that edging is particularly unhealthy during these binges and wondered if trying to orgasm as soon as possible when I first use porn might be the best option for me. Once I've come, it's like my desire's gone, I've had my fun and I soon go back to abstaining. Might be another way to prevent long binge sessions.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/reb...ong-abstinence-with-binges-an-addiction-risk/

 

Well the ideal in the first place would be to not relapse regardless of the streak length so I think the binging is just sort of a normal consequence that you could tackle on its own. This strategy basically assumes that you'll never be able to just drop porn which seems like a compromise with yourself. I also wonder why you chose a time limit as 30 minutes is a while, unless that's short for you then I understand. The concern I have here is that pleasure isn't the only indicator of an addiction, and usually reduced pleasure means its dulling your ability to feel pleasure which isn't a good sign. There's still such a thing as habits being formed every time you do this, and keep in mind you're here because you're hooked to pmo. If it was true for you that the more you pmo, the more you'll get bored and drop it eventually, wouldn't you have already dropped it since you've been hooked and doing it repetitively for a while now? Just something to think about. I think this is your mind trying to trick you into compromising with your pmo, but I always say people should experiment with methods if things aren't working out so I would give it a shot anyways. Weening off by using in a controlled way does seem to work for a smaller portion of people and you may be in that smaller portion. Worst case scenario is it just doesn't work and you try something else.

 

Try to make the little experiences random and not regular, so you don't build up a tolerance. Maybe make it like something you do when you are in there middle of cleaning your room. Also that way it will have to be short because you're in there middle of something.

What exactly is the forbidden fruit? Is it the giant long binge? If so having shorter ones won't stop the cravings, they might just make them easier to slide into or tend to make them take longer since you'll build up a tolerance. Is it the quiet escape and loneliness? Physical release? M and not the P? Maybe you can do something else, instead of the full binge that can give you the feeling of tasting the forbidden fruit without the side effects.

The big thing is to figure out how to replace it with natural highs, and get you used to meeting your needs, both sexual and emotional, through your regular life and not through the screen. So like if you're having a good day, just keep it at a good day and not head home to chase the intense high of a late night edge session. Or of you're having a day that would end in a pmo session, recognize and try different to navigate your day in a way that pmo won't be thing you're relying on to bring yourself back to balance.

 

It probably is that the long delay makes it much more of an exciting deep dive, like how the worst food tastes amazing if you haven't ate all day. I guess that's what would be hard about quitting altogether, knowing that all this "pleasure" is right around the corner (even though all the pain would be lurking behind it, asking with whatever other consequences you're trying to get away from).

If the end game is just to not have all those long sessions, I wonder if your can get timed blockers to come on and stop you or at least remind you to stop so it doesn't drag it out. Maybe you can run the battery down on your devices and put the chargers out of reach or something?

If, however, the end game is you not doing it at all ever, then doing it for short time periods could make it more habitual for you to break to down your defenses, and could build up more of a dependence on the shorter sessions, or even build a tolerance for them. If you build a tolerance and you want to get back to that level of pleasure, you'll probably need longer sessions and more intense sessions. Just saying'

So yeah, you might want to think about what you want to do, all porn, or just long porn binge sessions. Which of those is the forbidden fruit?

 

You’re not being hard enough on yourself, you should be suffering especially in the initial weeks and then it gets easier because the dependency dies down. Accept that you will never ever be able to view porn and masturbate to it again. Don’t you want that for yourself? Accept it and make a change to your life if you truly want it bad enough. I don’t get the whole I’ll allow myself a bit of porn once in a while thing. Relapses are avoidable, that all depends on you.

Being an ex smoker, there is never a one more time ordeal. It turns into way more times

 

Matrix is right. You're having success with the streaks, keep pushing through and making them longer. If you're replapsing figure out how to make it shorter, or non-existent. Don't waste time trying to sneak more porn into your life, because that will ultimately lead you to having more porn in your life.

 

Why do you set your blockers to end after a certain length of time? For what purpose would you ever not need them other than to watch porn?

 

This reminds me of my mate who I introduced to Nofap few years ago. He was excited about all the super powers and the idea of being porn free. Went well with his "gentleman" image he was trying on. We didn't talk about the whole thing for a year or so and when it eventually came up I'll never forget his words. After relapsing a dozen of times he figures it's just easier not even try. So he kept watching porn because he couldn't take the relapses.

 

You no doubt know more about blockers and computers than I do but I just use Cold Turkey and set it to block the entire internet whilst keeping a few safe sites, as far as I know there's no way around it short of reinstalling Windows but that's too much of a ball-ache even for me to consider - if there is a way around it then I'd rather not know lol. Problem I have is that I don't live alone so still have access to a bunch of other devices so really the blocker just acts as more of an inconvenience, if I were in your position I would just set the block for say three months or so and be done with it. It sounds to me like you either consciously or subconsciously set the block for a shorter amount of time because you don't really want it out of your life forever. I also know the feeling of when the block ends and even if you weren't aware of it, once you do become aware you instantly start to think this is your chance to access porn and you go all in.