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Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction (PIED)

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by Tommy_0113, Aug 30, 2016.

  1. Tommy_0113

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    This needs it's own subforum on NoFap. I've asked the admins, but no progress so far.
    On websites like YBOP and RebootNation it is the 2nd/3rd most popular topic.

    Anyway, there has been new research linking heavy porn use with sexual dysfunction (ED).

    Here is a new article that's worth a read:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-weiss/understanding-porninduced_b_11668932.html

    and here is a link to the academic paper:
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563215302612

    Guys, let us know you're experiences of erectile dysfunction.
    When did you notice?
    Can you not get hard when masturbating?
    Is it partially anxiety related when sex is involved?
    By rebooting, have you managed to regain some erectile strength?
    How long has it taken to fully recover?
     
  2. Allnightlong

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    I was (hopefully) a porn addict but have a girlfriend too. Honestly, I always thought it is normal to have problems getting a boner and imagine other things while having sex. Only now i realize that it is NOT normal to have E.D!
    I have already tried to stop watching porn a few times and noticed some changes in my sex life.
    Today I am at Day 16 and I notice a huge change in my sexual behavior! Last time I had sex (after 14 Days no PM) my penis was rocket hard, like never before, and I did not waste one thought on not getting hard. I hope that this continues..
     
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  3. Tommy_0113

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    It ALWAYS helps having a girlfriend to help. As a single guy picking up girls randomly on nights out and taking them home only to fail because of ED? that really sucks. There is no recovery or understanding here.
     
  4. DBug

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    Thanks for those links they are very interesting!

    My story:
    I had my first time when I was sixteen after PMOing since at least 13. After dating for a few weeks and thought it was time. Took a few tries for it to work at all and by "working" I mean being able to get hard at all, enter her and still stay hard enough and by "hard" I mean 75-85% of what I new from PMO my normal erect state would be. Of course we thought it was performance anxiety and it may have played a role but it wasn't the main one. Over time I became able to hold my erection better and longer so we were able to have sex regularely. I always had to keep going though! Standing up, going to another room or just quickly closing the window resulted in the loss of my erection and we had to start all over.
    Also I always felt distant amd alienated, not enjoying it how much I thought I should be (and I was right)! Also I felt that it was in some way due to her presence (or rather due to not being alone and being in front of a computer and being used to my hand (DGS) as I found out later) and it freaked me out! I loved her why would I not enjoy having sex with her? And most important: I never orgasmed with her. Never. And we tried everything (except porn). That got to her obviously and strained our relationship so I ended it after a few months partly because running away is always easier. It wasn't until I was 19 that I thought of googling my symptoms in the english language for the first that I found ybop next to the usual "your just nervous"-stuff.

    Quitting is rather hard for me. It took me about 1 1/2 years to make 2 weeks in a streak and I still relapsed afterwards. Now I feel confident that I can keep my current streak going.

    PMO has been my reaction to stress, fear and boredom since I started. Those are my triggers and I had to find ways to avoid them or deal with them in a different way.

    My grades had been plummeting from best to worst since I was around 14. I couldn't (and still struggle to) find the motivation to learn for school/university although it is quite interesting stuff! If I did manage to do so I was very inefficient and couldn't concentrate at all - 20 minutes is about the max. time before I just have to rest or find myself distracting myself.

    No, masturbating without porn didn't work (maybe it will now on day 23 but I certainly wont try it).

    As for rebooting: I'm not done with it so I can't give you a complete picture yet but the rebooting and success-stories sections are full with in-depth reports.
     
  5. Tommy_0113

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    can you get hard now? If you tried to masturbate without porn do you think you could you get fully hard?
     
  6. DBug

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    Facts first: Morning wood is rather hard-ish (90% I'd say) although rare - still am improvement.
    My gut tells me that masturbation would probably work but orgasm only with a deathgrip but I honestly don't know.
    Whether or not I'd want to go back to masturbation only I don't think I could. Not only because of porn but even more due to my death grip. There's not much sense to defeating my addiction and porn induced erection problems (Not sure if I should say PIED - not because I "cannot admit it" but because it I think it belongs to the poor souls who aren't able to get it up at all! In comparison to them I'm lucky!) when I still cannot orgasm with a women because I'm still conditioned to my rough hand. Every time when I tried to make it soft and sensual it only took a moment of me not concentrating on my hand movements (phantasizing or watching porn or just focusing on sensation) that I found myself brutally jacking off again. It is just automated like walking or something.
     
  7. Mingo87

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    I'm new to these forums and I gotta say, after reading many responses I am really surprised that I can still manage to orgasm inside a girl. I've been PMOing for a long time, like over a decade, but I just had sex with a girl 6 weeks ago and did just fine. No doubt, I know that my erections are not as strong as they should be, and my orgasm is delayed, but why does it seem as if others with a similar history to mine cannot even get hard while using their hand??
     
  8. Mingo87

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    Also, I occasionally use a sex toy in which the "vagina" is not NEAR as tight as the grip of my hand, but I manage to orgasm within minutes... even when wearing a condom. It seems strange that after years and years of abuse, my penis can still function at least 80% "normally", with 2 vastly different forms of masturbation, or even a real woman ....
     
  9. Tommy_0113

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    Because they have fried their brain with too my porn. It overloads and suddenly you don't find anything a turn on anymore. The way to fix it is to abstain for months or longer.
     
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  10. Allnightlong

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    I have watched a lot of porn too, and still had regular sex with my girlfriend - and oh wonder, it worked.
    But trust me when I tell you: IT IS SO FUCKING MUCH BETTER without rubbing your cock while watching stupid P scenes every day.
     
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  11. Tommy_0113

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    but those who don't have a girlfriend?
     
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  12. Allnightlong

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    Then what? Then you go out and pick up a girl, thats not easy i know ;) But sex is not everything! (Although porn tells us so :p )
     
  13. Tommy_0113

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    I find every girl is taken, like seriously! So hard to find a nice single girl.
     
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  14. DBug

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    Then you're not looking hard enough - or too hard maybe.
    Go out with friends (homeparties are preferable since it's much easier to casually establish a conversation with some girl there and you can find out if she's single before easily) relax and have some fun and sooner or later you will find a nice girl with the right chemistry that's attracted to you ;)
    Or you can ask around at which club/bar the single ladies of your age hang out - there should be a few locations near you. Walking up to them in a bar obviously takes a lot more courage (not my strong point tbh).
     
  15. Tommy_0113

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    thanks but I really lack confidence in places such as bars. House parties are better but I never get to go to any.
     
  16. Xander74

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    Totally agree with you that PIED should have its own sub forum. I'd had it for 7 years now and I hoping a 90 day PMO free period will reboot my brain to get my dick working again.
    My story is similar to everyone here, I've been a p user since adolescence and had adverse effects during my early life. I'm happily married but my life change when I worked abroad for 6 months in 2009 where p was abundant and I gorged on it. When returning home I couldn't get hard with the wife but just put it down to stress. I knew it worked on my own and with p so I would start to use it at home to check it worked, it did so I tried again with my wife but nothing, so again used p to see if it worked and so began a destructive cycle of ED followed by PMO followed by ED. We even went to sex therapy where I played down p use because I was an addict. When therapy failed (because of my PMO) my wife and I gave up on sex. It has taken until 42 days ago to finally want rid of p and its destructive power on me.
    My wife knows I used p but not to its full extent. I'm confident it's behind me know and I'm looking forward to a fuller life when I complete my 90 days.
     
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  17. jdilla97

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    I noticed it when i'm fooling around with my gf. I felt aroused, but my penis just can't get up. Nowadays, when i'm started reboot i noticed some short term boners with her (kissing etc), it is very motivating☺. Of course i have an erection with P...
     
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  18. Ikindaknew

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    You should be fine! No objectification of women
    Avoid all sex thoughts outside the bedroom also. Wait until you're in the action. You'll have to re-learn how to get aroused by your senses,,,smell, taste, touch, sight, etc....

    My PIED is gone. I don't have erections by thoughts anymore and I don't allow my mind to think about sex....my wife is now my only source of sex, and its fine like that.
     
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  19. Xander74

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    Great to hear your success:) I'm still struggling with p-subs and fantasy, but each day is better.
     
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  20. Ikindaknew

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    darn p-subs!
    The problem is that the brain becomes totally screwed up by sexual stimuli.. The "reward circuitry" makes you seeking for more stimuli, because you feel good watching...if you watch p-subs and /or you watch sexy ladies on the street, you tell your brain that there is multiple "mates" available. Also, because of the coolidge effect, your brain becomes habituated to your sex partner (wife/GF)...and you seek novelty. As your wife/GF is always the same person, you have to cut all other sources of sex stimuli, so your body re-learns to be aroused by the wife only....then your erection will come back in force...

    Think of porn as a HACK that played with your arousal source...brain thinks a video or a picture on screen as a new matting partner...and you lose interest in the real person laying down in bed besides you.
     
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