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Porn makes me straight and that worries me

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Over-achieving atheist, Dec 8, 2020.

  1. Over-achieving atheist

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    Elaborate? I made the switch away from hetero, but most of the feedback loop was started once I indulged in more porn to deny being gay (only denied because of faith, if it wasn't for that this whole issue would never have happened). Now it is just a thorn in my side, an erotic reaction and disgust/regret after and sometimes during or before. A false pretense to 'becoming' bisexual or straight again.
     
  2. Why do you assume I'm Christian? That's like Americans who turn any negative comment about Hillary Clinton into a positive comment about Donald Trump. There are more ways to slice a cake than two.

    Take your pick:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=anton+lavey+last+words&t=h_&ia=web
     
  3. I'd say you're more Aspie than anything else, given that you're actively trying to get rid of the actual sexual (natural, since you already have it; relational, since it means relating to other people, regardless of physical sex) inclinations you have. I'm not calling you names, I'm for real. Ask yourself if same-sex sexual attraction is something you feel in your body - read 'dick' -, or an identity in your mind? If it's the latter, I can relate, and it's more an Asp thing than a sexuality thing.
     
  4. First of all you can't know that
    2. this way of thinking doen't help you in any way

    just some food for thought
     
  5. This sounds horrible. Whatever's going on with you, I hope you manage to resolve it.
     
  6. Over-achieving atheist

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    I never assumed you were Christian. Maybe re-read what I said. Also, your example doesn't fit, given the only inclination one would have for mentioning his final worlds (which I DID assume had something to do with Christianity, not you) would be a 'gotcha' sort of deal, while mentioning Hillary doesn't mean you are relating the conversation to Trump. Calm down, dude.
     
  7. Over-achieving atheist

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    1: I do know it, though. Without the faintest shadow of a doubt. When I looked into homosexuality in the Bible to justify (yes, I wanted to justify being gay. . . pretty good sign if you ask me) my desire and once thought I had found evidence to support myself, I was ECSTATIC beyond all measure. Happiest dude in the world. Immediate acceptance and romance ensued. Then my youth pastor crashed into my parade and my 3 day period of bliss ended. The downward spiral started getting worse once I forced myself away from that mindset (I was also off porn for 2 months at the point of acceptance).
    2: I am too lazy to re-read what I said, but a 'way of thinking' isn't the issue here. Getting rid of this stuff is.
     
  8. No, you're being basic. My actual point is that you're wasting your time looking for a doctrinal system upon which to hang your hat, because life is more complex than any set system can account for. You might find one that fits more or less well, but there will always be flaws. And if I were looking for the system-of-best-fit, I wouldn't choose one whose own founder rejected it before he died.

    Critiquing one religion doesn't mean either supporting an alternative religion, and isn't a comment on religion as a whole - you bring that bias to bear yourself. The analogy holds with political candidates because political candidates are also sons/parents/business people, etc, and so a comment upon the character of one doesn't reflect automatically upon the character of another, unless someone brings a narrow - in this case bi-partisan, political - frame to bear.

    Okay, you didn't assume I was Christian. You assumed I was trying to play some sort of childish game instead? How is that better?
     
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  9. Over-achieving atheist

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    I am not trying to get rid of actual sexual inclinations anymore, and when I was it was the gay ones I was ridding myself of. That was because of religion, however. I do really feel for guys my age. I have had many crushes, fantasies, one relationship (soon to be more that last longer) and total love for the ideal in general. Being gay just makes me really happy when I think about it. I don't know why I have to keep justifying myself to you all and I am going to stop soon.
     
  10. Over-achieving atheist

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    I misread your intentions, then. That is a fault I will own up to. However, one part of this is wrong. I am not merely looking for a system to subscribe to, I want to just live life and advocate for what I believe in. Keyword 'merely'.
     
  11. It's a dream, and you're using it to escape reality. You've already experienced the bliss of breaking the social norms that hold things together. It's easy to do because increasingly we don't have to deal with material reality or other people, but it's an illusion. You don't have to justify anything to me, just come back here in 15 years' time when you realised what you've thrown away.

    Peace out!
     
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  12. Over-achieving atheist

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    I am not sure what you're trying to imply here. Am I somehow not gay and pretending I am?
     
  13. iwontfail67

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    This post literally proves that HOCD is not some made up phenomenon designed to bash on gay people.
     
  14. Ekhangel

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    • homophobic language
    The world is getting really damn funny... I thought men compulsively paying women for humiliating them online was crazy enough (much more ridiculous than sado-maso and such, if you ask me), but a gay worrying about his sexual preferences leaning towards heretosexuality (and, by the way, being a satanist) is another level of craziness.

    We should start a competition: try to predict the next completely ridiculous thing that this world will see in this decade.
     
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  15. kropo82

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    Yes, there is, here:

    If you see people breaking that rule, especially if that takes the thread off topic, just report the post and the mods will sort it out.
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2020
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  16. TS_7

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    That's not how I interpret this.

    Quote:
    "If someone mentions how religion or a lack of religion has helped them, do not criticize them."
    So if I give advice to people that I believe religion would help them, cause it helped me,
    without the strict goal of converting someone, then there is no problem. So I can state my
    opinion that involves religion.

    Also "don't try to impose your views". If someone is willing to talk about the topic,
    then it's not imposing from how I understand the definition of this word.

    Also if someone starts a conversation or writes a post involving religion or is clearly
    someone who is religious, then I would assume also that I am allowed telling that
    person how things look inside this religion, is not imposing.

    Also is this even legal to have such terms of service in view of the
    First Amendement to the Constitution of the United States of America?:
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment
     
  17. Over-achieving atheist

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    If asked, you would be hard-pressed to know what Satanism actually is. Read the sex section of their Bible. Even asexuals are accepted under the organization.
     
  18. Over-achieving atheist

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    I find myself agreeing. It is merely sexual compulsion in general.
     
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  19. Over-achieving atheist

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    The thing is, though, I don't want religion in my thread. Your arguments are weak with that given premise. Please take it elsewhere.
     
  20. Over-achieving atheist

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    Yes, it is. The first amendment applies to government interference. This is a privately-owned website that can make its own rules so long as they don't go against certain laws.
     

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