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Porn vs Sex?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Minnesotan, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Minnesotan

    Minnesotan Fapstronaut

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    I keep reading about the harmful effects of porn on your mental, physical and emotional health. But what is the difference vs sex? Both involve orgasms. How is the chemical reaction in the brain different?

    I worry that once I kick this in the future that having healthy sex orgasms will remind me of porn or maybe I’m just worrying?
     
  2. Sex is totally different. The orgasms are different. more natural. You feel less weird. For a lot of people sex doesn't hurt your self esteem as much and doesn't make you feel guilty.
     
  3. 931213tish

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    So this is what we call mental programming.

    If you constantly orgasm with porn - the association with porn (an unrealistic Beautiful sexy fantasy) develops. And soon the true feeling of human interaction is overrides.

    Sex also is entirely about the other person - giving yourself wholly to them and not thinking about yourself, porn only feed your inner greed and warps it into something you didn't initially want.
     
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  4. Minnesotan

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    It doesn’t help that my first sexual experiences were to porn. Wished I could’ve waited until I was married.
     
  5. 931213tish

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    This all depends on whether you were using porn before your sexual experience.

    In some cases with those who aren't addicts, porn can be an enhancement of the sexual experience - like if you use a toy. But if you're an addict (EVEN if you have rebooted you're still an addict) this may not be the best thing to do.

    Waiting until marriage wouldn't have changed the fact of you using porn.
     
  6. Tannhauser

    Tannhauser Fapstronaut

    I read somewhere that the actual chemicals in the brains are different between PMO and sex in a committed relationship (not sure about one night stands, etc.) in that it includes bonding hormones and others that change how it interacts with the brain. Moreover, I have read some scientist describe the way that hormones and pheromones operate on a level that we didn't know of before - so that one person's hormones can impact those of another nearby person (my wife is pregnant, and yet I'm the one who get's morning sickness, for one example). That makes an orgasm during sex almost part of a dance, whereas M is like "dancing by yourself" more or less, and PMO is like pretending to dance with somebody on the TV screen. It's not the same at all.
     
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  7. Nowadays I would guess that around 50-75% of people in the us use porn before sex. It's OK just start from where you are. You will slowly change. Chemicals in the brain come and go, noural pathways get overwritten.
     
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  8. Yes I heard something similar, I think it's dopamine (p and short term) vs oxytocin (long term).
     
  9. Estel

    Estel Fapstronaut

    Dopamine is what gives you the urges. YOU WANT THIS. CLICK CLICK CLICK. It's not what gives you pleasure per say, as many think is the neurotransmitter of pleasure, but it's whats gives you motivation to an action.
    Problem with porn is that it's a buffet. You have too much choice so you never have enough. You keep wanting more. Read about the Coolidge effect.
    Worse than that. Porn is an exaggeration of natural sexual triggers. So fake people doing fake things triggering an exaggerated response in your brain.

    Oxytocin is the so called "social hormone" it is an "aggressiveness reducer". It makes you feel good to have social Interaction. It can also help with connecting to others, being more attentive and understanding the thoughts of others. But sharing morning sickness, I'm doubtful. Though to understand others, we do "simulation" of the others' actions within our own body. So yea I guess you could share morning sickness. But you wouldn't feel bad for the same reason, obviously.
     
  10. Peiskos

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    The difference is sex is an activity humans are meant to engage in, we are designed to engage in it actually. This is why men have penis' and women have vaginas. We weren't meant to sit in front of a computer aggressively stroking our dicks to pixelated photos/videos of pornography. When you have sex and you orgasm you are doing so with that skin to skin contact of another human being, when you orgasm to porn its all artificial.

    So basically to summarize one is natural and the other is not. Now yes you can masturbate but ideally its something to be kept to an extreme minimum and if you do you're only supposed to use your imagination as porn can warp your mind and desensitize you to the real thing if you watch it long enough. This brings us to PIED (Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction)

    PIED is something I dealt with before I fully rebooted and healed over the course of nearly 2 years, yes it took that long and yes porn can do that kind of damage. Sadly an ever growing number of young guys are confused and shocked that they can't get it up when they are with a girl for the first time, why? because they are conditioned to porn and not reality, the reality of a real naked woman doesn't do it for them like a picture or video of one does.

    My opinion is that porn is garbage, and its in fact evil. It must be avoided at all costs no different than heroin.
     
  11. Estel

    Estel Fapstronaut

    Porn is a not regulated industry creating health problem in society. Imagine how things could change if all of us could put our time and energy elsewhere! Politics should regulate it at least at a certain level. That industry is laughing at us.
     

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