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Pornography leading to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder(OCD)

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Sep 18, 2019.

Does pornography cause OCD?

Poll closed Sep 23, 2019.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

    11.1%
  3. Maybe

    44.4%
  1. I watched porn regularly and masturbated before quitting it and one of the main reasons behind this being I suffered more from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder(OCD) after I fapped. On one such occasion, I went to my Grandmas during holidays. It was there I discovered that if I don't fap, I suffered less from OCD. It was hard for me to quit porn and I did relapse earlier as I already said I did it on a regular basis. Now that its two weeks, I can feel my brain get rewired. I can feel the change in the thinking pattern. I would like to know that are pornography and masturbation related to OCD. What do you think?
     
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  2. WildPig13

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    I don't know, can you repeat the question?



    Sorry, I coulnd't help it
     
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  3. Yes.

    A masturbation habit downregulates your serotonergic (calming) systems and upregulates your excitatory (dopaminergic) systems. OCD, eating disorders are commonly seen when the person becomes addicted. Years of addiction can result in even worse psychiatric disorders, most commonly anxiety disorder or clinical depression, both of which make ocd or anorexia look like a walk in the park.
     
  4. thedarkbird

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    They are related but porn addiction does not cause OCD. It's more the other way around: people with OCD are more susceptible to porn addiction.

    Porn addiction can result in compulsive behavior, but there's a pretty big gap between that and the actual disorder. I once knew someone with actual OCD, he lost his mind if someone moved his car keys from the exact spot he laid them on his desk. Porn addiction is not causing that, I can assure you :)
     
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  5. Fascinating thread. Love reading.
     
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  6. Nanni

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    I don't think so, maybe OCD is the cause of porn addiction instead of the consequence.
     
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  7. Ya I would agree.
     
  8. No, there's a direct causation. Any type of dopamine upper, whether it's porn or MDMA, will downregulate the serotonergic system. It's this downregulation of the serotonergic system which will lead to stress causing the OCD. Masturbation can mess up the nervous system pretty badly.
     
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  9. Source? Love your stuff btw.
     
  10. Thanks. Source is my own research, for which I've used medical literature mostly. The serotonin-dopamine connection is thorougly discussed in books such as The Hacking of the American Mind by dr. Robert Lustig. He's stated that excessive dopamine downregulates serotonin. Anxiolytic and antidepressant medications target serotonergic function in order to alleviate anxiety disorders, among which OCD. You need not be a rocket scientist to do the math. Although porn addiction will not necessarily lead to OCD, it most certainly increases the risk of developing it because of the effect it has on serotonergic function in the nervous system. Dopamine addiction is one of the leading causes of clinical depression. Serotonergic function can and will be downregulated in chronic porn addicts.
     
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  11. Yeah. I fist-pumped the air with your epic exchange when you “downgraded” ultrafabber from self-proclaimed clinical psychologist to a regular Fapstronaut a while ago.

    Love the medical/scientific side of this treatment. It’s underexplained it seems to me.
     
  12. Supination

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    The answer is def yes.
    Ever heard about HOCD?
    No? Great, take a look of the abundance of people who are struggling with horrible porn induced OCD's in the problematic behavior forum.
     
  13. Rexbrent

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    Pmo can cause sexual ocd??
    I am having sexual thought ocd
     
  14. I dunno. Maybe an underlying OCD already existed, and the porn just exploited it?
     
  15. Lilla_My

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    Compulsive thoughts and actions, as in OCD, differ from addiction in one crucial way:

    With OCD, compulsive actions are completed out of anxiety. "If I don't do x, I'm risking that y will happen".
    A typical OCD thought might be: "If I don't touch the door knob five times when I close the door, I risk a car accident when I drive to work".

    Addiction is based on anticipation instead of anxiety. So instead of feeling fear of what might happen if a compulsive action isn't taken, the addict acts out in anticipation of what might happen. "If I do x, I'm hoping y will happen".
    A typical addict thought might be:
    "If I watch this explicit material, I'm hoping to have an orgasm and a temporary ease of mind".

    OCD is related to the 5HT system (i.e. serotonin), while behavioural addiction is related to the dopamine pathways. Because of this, the two conditions are treated differently.

    Depression is often involved in both OCD and addiction, meaning that it causes the diseases as well as being a consequence of them. It's crucial that depression and anxiety is addressed with diet, movement, therapy and/or medication.

    It's probably fully possible to suffer from both addiction and OCD, and that one could make the others worse or more likely to occur in the first place, but technically, it's two different conditions.
     
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  16. fedmom

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    This is not correct (except for dopamine bit). Behavioural addictions are caused by low serotonin which is why people who have a porn addiction often have OCD.
     
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  17. Lilla_My

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    Mind and dysregulation of mind is an orchestra - no neurotransmitter works solely on its own. Unfortunately, low serotonin alone doesn't cause addiction, or all addictions would be successfully treated with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors - which is obviously not the case. Dopamine plays a much larger role here, with some dopamine agonist medications (indicated for parkinsons) in some cases, directly causing addiction.

    The gradual loss of neurons in the prefrontal cortex, seen in the depressed brain, and suspected to be caused by low levels neurotransmitters and catecholamines such as serotonin and dopamine, can cause loss of inhibition and thereby a susceptibility to inappropriate behaviours, such as sexual addictions. Serotonin is indeed involved in anxiety, and individuals might deal with their anxiety by turning to addictions, but to say that low serotonin on its own is responsible for addiction is erroneous.
     
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  18. fedmom

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    No, sorry it is only low serotonin that causes impulsive behaviours. SSRIs, SNRIs and especially SRA type drugs are the best thing for people with a behavioural addictions. Or my swearing method lol.
     
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  19. Lilla_My

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    No. SSRI is not indicated for addiction, and not prescribed for that unless combined with a opioid antagonist like naltrexone.

    Treatment with SSRI have been suspected to cause addiction in some cases:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24902507/
    This might be due to the agonist action on the 5HT2C receptor.

    Antidepressants are neurotrophic and can thereby help an individual live a happier, more balanced life with better decision making. Such changes could help combat behavioural issues, such as addiction. SNRI would probably be a better bet than SSRI for people prone to addiction.
     
  20. fedmom

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    That would inhibit dopmine so I don't understand how that has anything to do with causing alcohol addiction. SSRIs do get given to people with masochism disorder.
     
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