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Possible to reboot quitting porn but not masturbation?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Car Rider 92, Sep 5, 2019.

Is is possible to reboot keeping masturbation without porn?

  1. Yes

    4 vote(s)
    40.0%
  2. No

    6 vote(s)
    60.0%
  1. Car Rider 92

    Car Rider 92 New Fapstronaut

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    Hi everyone,

    I am new to NoFap and have some doubts. The main question is: somebody got a reboot quitting just porn but not masturbation and orgasm? I mean just stopping to watch porn.

    Gary Wilson in Your Brain On Porn* insists that the focus should be on quitting porn but I think I stopped watching porn for long periods of time before and still feel the intense cravings even with attractive girls in the street, amd the numbness and disinterest in almost everything after ejaculation. Also I often have difficulty to see more than a body in a woman... Very cold and dehumanizing :(. Fortunately never had ED.

    *(I guess is ok to cite a related and well-known site and its creator, otherwise I can remove the comment)

    I feel like some of us started PMO so early, when our brains were not fully wired that now porn is very deeply engrained in our brains... Probably we have to go even for no masturbation for long time for reprogramming.

    I would also appreciate some comments from succesful rebooters on reductions in craving sex and kisses from real women. Did you notice more interest in the person herself? Feel more affection beyond the sexual desire? And do you feel less numbness after ejaculation?

    Would also appreciate comments from women rebooters who felt something similar.

    Thank you all, specially to creators and maintainers of this great site, it helps so much to have a place where I can share these doubts... Should have joined NoFap before.
     
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  2. romeolima

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    It's early days in your poll, but I voted yes, because that is the journey I am on.

    I know opinions here differ, as you would expect, but for me masturbation as an act is normal and healthy even within a relationship. To some people here porn and masturbation are so closely linked and to be one and the same, this wasn't the case for me, perhaps because streaming hardcore porn didn't come into my life until my 20's.

    However during the 6 weeks of my no porn journey my masturbation has tailed off massively.
     
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  3. IR254

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    I voted "Yes" as well. You see, there is not one-size-fits-all-answer to the question. Some people have no problem with masturbation on its own, for others masturbation leads to absolute destruction. The only way to find out what works for you, is to try it and see how it goes.
     
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  4. Gratefulforchange

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    My experience is that after some time away from porn I have been able to do healthy masturbation. But I needed time away first. Because P and M are like coffee and cream for me. At first, I don’t like the taste of coffee without cream. They are together for a reason. They are great together! But over time, I can learn to enjoy coffee without cream. I train my brain and taste buds to ENJOY coffee by itself.
    Nothing wrong with M/O by itself. It’s the energy I have around it. Is it loving or am I fantasy about some nasty stuff? Is it compulsive or do I M once in a while for good health?
    I agree with the posts above. The intention is key for me. Error on the side of caution, check in here, and love yourself. You are doing great!
     
  5. Jonny1992

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    Well it is the same if you stop smoking weed, but continue to smoke cigarettes! It ill take a lot longer to heal...
     
  6. InTheSouth

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    Masturbation in moderation is possible, but not long term imo. I have experienced months without P and around 2-4 orgasms per month, but the urge to do the full PMO cycle again is always lurking somewhere. It's playing with fire. A few weeks monk mode or similar abstinence was necessary to fill up a new level of energy, motivation and positiveness first.

    This approach works for me currently, but a full reboot is not possible with that method. It delays greatness and it's dangerous, but I'm proud of what I have achieved so far.
     
  7. Car Rider 92

    Car Rider 92 New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you guys for the feedback, I also used to think more about quit just P. MO without P sounds healthy to me as well.

    But I feel I have been doing long periods MO without P and never really get a reboot... A bit like InTheSouth describes... Was one week no PMO (no P no M no O, but for some wet dream) and met a girl. I like her, we liked each other, we kissed, and I instantly get that rock mode on. Got to bed and could only think about M, next morning I thought "well, was a real girl, should not be a problem", so went for MO. After that, two full days of that numbness... Can feel nothing.

    I tried MO with a girlfriend, and sex, but I feel like my brain has associated so much any kind of sex with porn... I feel I will have to go for the full PMO... though sounds so unattainable... with work, full of responsibilities, stresses, dealing with some not so nice people, and still having to restrain from all desire and urge of MO.

    Ok let's try! Wish me strength guys!

    P.S.: I think about quitting MO only for a while, let the brain rewire. After a reboot I do not think is advisable to fully renounce to it. Well, that is based on few things I read about health, I could be wrong. In any case, no P ever again!
     
  8. romeolima

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    Good luck with your reboot
     
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  9. Carbon Icon

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    Possible? Probably, for some people. Not for me. I'm giving up M for life and am finding out that (for me) it's way better and easier this way.
     
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