Post acute withdrawal and my symptoms. Can you relate?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by DarkSektur, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. Michealdave2

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    That is it ,brain fog come when you view porn you see ,I have this same issues also about everything that happen to you,to all this veiwers seeing this ,the causes of all this symptoms is because you are addicted .my dear our dopamine is low there by leading to homonal imbalanced and all these symptoms you experience are as a result of homonal change in the body including pimples ,my dear give your body time to heal ,don't view porn,don't mastubate,your brain and your body will come back to normal .
     
  2. humbleone

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    Hi BigFallOfFire - sorry to hear about your PSTD.

    You obviously aren't suffering from PAWS - I've previously asked above for people who aren't experience it or who are ignorant about it to not post blind advice or comments however well intentioned as they don't add any value and just dilute the discussion.

    I'm an adult - Im aware that life isn't a cosmis bliss everyday. PAWS is real - I hope you don't have to endure it and then have others downplay it and ignorantly comment on it.
     
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  3. Don Quixote

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    It's so weird. I don't know what that tells us about what's going on inside, but its something I've noticed throughout my entire recovery.
     
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  4. VanGuy

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    Big thumbs up for meditation.. I missed meditation today and nearly relapsed.. (may or may not relate) it’s not a game changer but every little bit helps..it definitely makes a difference.
     
  5. Indurian

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    For years I experienced emotional numbness. I've been recovering over the last 6 years approx and dealing primarily with anxiety and anger. Both are much improved fortunately. It is however only quite deep into my current streak that I realise that the numbed emotions are now being revealed more as depressive thoughts and feelings. It's unpleasant but at the same time I'm relieved that I can feel more emotion. Im hopeful that at some stage it will give way to the return of more positive emotions and thoughts.

    Has anyone else followed a similar path?
     
  6. humbleone

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    Indurian, whats your longest streak during this past 6 years?

    The bad news I fear is that if we relapse during recovery we at best stall our recovery and at worse severely lengthen it.
     
  7. Indurian

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    My current streak is my longest. I've mainly had 3-4 month streaks interspersed with relapses. I had gotten to the stage where I was relapsing once per week but binging for a few hours each time.
     
  8. TantusJulius

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    Bad idea. Meditation is poor people's drug. I would not play with that, especially if someone experience paws too.
     
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  9. Don Quixote

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    I'm with TantusJulius. before I went into a severe PAWS, I got heavily into meditation, like hours on end. But I'm convinced 100% that meditation along with PMO is what accelerated the dysmorphia of my brain. Yes, it can be euphoric, all that oneness bullshit, and seeming calm. But meditation, like other passive rewards just floods your brain with an ocean of dopamine--of course it's gonna make you feel outstanding! But how dangerous is that. The things that the medical community are saying about meditation are the same things they said about masturbation and porn, "Oh, it's healthy. It's natural. It produces dopamine, which is so good." Sure it relaxes you and takes off the edge, so does alcohol, so do cigarettes, so do hard drugs, so does PMO, until one day it doesn't, until one day you're in hell wondering how you got there.

    If you are suffering from PAWS, meditation is dangerous. The purpose of recovery is to fast from ALL dopaminergic rewards insofar as reasonably possible, so our brains can rest and sort themselves out. I even know of people who have experienced a worsening of their symptoms doing excessive amounts of exercise "the runners high." Don't think that's healthy for a recovering addict either.

    I don't know. I don't want to be preachy. We are all pragmatists in this journey of recovery. Whatever works for you works. None of us are really certain of anything. I just know that when I meditate with PAWS, I might feel good during, but the rest of the day feels weird, and the following day, PAWS hits me like a ton of bricks for the next couple of days because my brain can't handle the dopamine gush while it's trying to heal. It's just my 2 cents.
     
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  10. 4eyedfox

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    Where is this research of "The runners high" because I run multiple miles, play basketball, and lift weights every day and I call bullshit. And for the meditating it literally frees the mind the goodness you feel is not supposed to last all day it is supposed to clean the slate so you can be prepared for anything that is to happen.
     
  11. BigBallOfFire

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    you got tolerance. when I started cycling it was euphoric. then after several months I had to cycle longer distance to feel that rush again. nowadays, I rarely feel anything, I have to go like 100 km in a day to get it back lol
     
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  12. tigate

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    after 90 days:
    - lightheadedness
    - randon tingling pain (negligible) in body
    armpits, near the ears, feet and back
    - noisy stomach / frequent farting
     
  13. VanGuy

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    Interesting thoughts thanks,
    I must admit I have had doubts about meditation at different times in this journey but on the whole I don’t think I could do without it now.
    I wouldn’t describe it as any type of high at all. Clean slate as mentioned above is a great description.
    You start the day without your thoughts fighting against you and you maintain that for as long as you can.. eventually constantly.

    I find if I keep “Not thinking about porn” or “Quitting porn” that Porn is always my focus.. lately (I believe primarily due to Meditation) my mind is much calmer and I very rarely think of Porn at all.
    I even forgot to fill in my journal on Monday as it just wasn’t on my mind like it used to be.
    I certainly agree that nobody really knows what’s best and I sure wish I did.
    Thanks for your comments as the only way we will ever work it out is from open sharing and comparison of our individual experiences.
     
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  14. BigBallOfFire

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    Im currently past my 2.5 months of daily 10 min practice and I must say I handle emotions and ''situations'' in my daily job much better.
    It doesnt give me a high (or some sort of enlightenment euphoric high, lol) but more of being at peace with myself, my friends and enemies. Metta is very helpful, too!
     
  15. Robinthehood

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    Im about five weeks, I've had moments where my balance goes, just for an instant, somehow combined with my vision. Not too sure what it is I'm experiencing.

    I seem to be running cooler this last week, couple of weeks ago I was burning up 24/7, soaking with sweat in the night, pouring sweat in the day.
     
  16. Don Quixote

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    Meditation as a relaxation breathing thing sounds good to me. What I mean is the deep consciousness stuff--zazen and such. Like meditating for hours straight where you go into these weird modes of consciousness. Sitting still and breathing with your legs crossed for a few minutes to clean out your thoughts or whatever sounds fine.
     
  17. MrGlock

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    I can't believe I didn't think about this before, but today (day 38 for me), a lightbulb went off in my head on my way to work - what if I ditch the social media/mindless internet browsing?? (since I've read elsewhere on how that affects dopamine levels)

    I'm not so sure about the caffeine - a coffee on the way to work (thanks Keurig) and then 2-3 cups throughout the day have been staples for me - but given that I'm stuck deep in the 'flatline' here, I'm willing to give it ago and forego that too
     
  18. BigBallOfFire

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    caffeine screws your dopamine pathways as badly as alcohol and cocaine/porn/sweets

    ditch it bro! youd be grateful you did
     
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