Prostitution can be good and sacred

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by modern milarepa, May 19, 2021.

  1. It's interesting that you're against casual sex but are okay with prostitution. One would argue the transactional aspect of prostitution is actually worse than casual sex since it increases the level of objectification of the human person thus diminishing their dignity. Not to mention it only goes to further create an environment in where the prostitutes and the John's are kept from ever treating the root underlying issues which have lead them to their current state/condition.

    I also think you might be confusing the word sacred for the word profane.
     
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  2. InnerMan

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    @modern milarepa is making numerous errors in this thread. He's using partial truths and blending them together in some kind of quasi-mystical message + some kind of self-help message. Yes, at the end of the day from a metaphysical perspective, EVERYTHING is sacred. Even a piece of dog shit is sacred by the fact that it exists and is part of the continuum of Reality. But that doesn't make it wholesome or good. It's still a piece of shit.

    Sex is sacred, I agree with him there. Sexual energy can be transmuted into spiritual energy, I agree with him there. Seeing escorts can be a solution to one's sexual imbalance - ummmmm. This is where his message gets very muddy and confused. I can't judge the man, maybe it worked for him. But this is not a solution for 99 % of people. And I'm being generous with that 99%.

    In his first post he says, "Also for example escorts can help a married man in a relationship were the wife doesn't want to have sex anymore." This says it all for me. Yes, it's a problem if your wife doesn't want to have sex with you, but his proposed answer will create a bigger problem than the original problem.

    @modern milarepa, you are intelligent and seem to have a cool personality, but you're also confused in some regards.
     
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  3. modern milarepa

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    It's very different the mind on an escort than the mind and energy of a woman who is into casual sex. The nature of a woman is to be monogamous, she needs feelings and friendship to have sex if a girl doesn't have this, there is something wrong with her, she probably is a very domineering woman in bed, nymphomaniac, borderline personality, things like that. You can sense these girls energy they are heavy.

    An escort misses the feelings but her mind is calm, not all are like this but some are, she is willing to have sex and enjoy it. She won't put an emotional negative burden in you for having sex.

    This is not so easy to grasp with your mind only, some experience is needed. I think you'll probably discuss this endlessly and you are going to say I'm contradicting myself. As I mentioned several times this thread opposes to many religions also politics it's not my affair.

    I'm talking like a tantric and taoist and practical man, I was a former monk by the way, who has seen the good results in me and in others of using this approach. You might find it offensive, crazy and profane and see me as a confused person that is fine we all have different views in life. You should stick to your religious road. Don't even consider what I'm saying
     
  4. modern milarepa

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    You haven't been married or know many marriages right? Life is though
     
  5. modern milarepa

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    I was predicting someone was going to say I'm confused I just talked something about this below your last post
     
  6. modern milarepa

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    As the Great Einstein said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”

    This is a new approach I teach it from experience. It's not for everyone I certainly don't do it anymore. I'm able to be balanced by myself without sex.

    When I first had sex with an escort it took away years of rigid ideas, stress and helped me be a better person. If done in moderation it's useful.
     
  7. InnerMan

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    For better or for worse, been married for 10 years - that's why your comment left me scratching my head a little, it seems naïve for someone as experienced as you. Life is tough indeed my man.

    My issues with your argument are not moralistic or religious. It's spiritual and psychological.

    But look, you're right, it's natural that we have different views and experiences so we can agree to disagree on this one.
     
  8. InnerMan

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    Out of curiosity, which monastic order were you a part of and for how long?
     
  9. It's been my experience that the person who is incapable of feeling as well as the person who's is driven by their feelings, are both unhealthy individuals. I've also noticed a trend that your value of casual sex vs prostitution is usually factored by what YOU get out of it and not so much what the prostitute gets out of it. If sex is sacred as you claim it to be then it would be set aside. Rules/commandments would be put in place to protect its sacred dignity. Prostitution is selling a sacred act for the increase of that which is profane; money. Like selling your soul to be a rockstar. It's taking something of a higher dignity and debasing it.

    I've had experience with prostitutes which is why I find your advice confusing. Your approach really just emphasizes using prostitutes as a tool and so you say that because tools are good and useful then prostitution is good and useful. While I get that, it doesn't change the fact that your view is beyond dehumanizing.

    I don't find your oppinions offensive simply because I don't think you have malicious intent. I do find your opinions misguided but I'm sure you might say the same about me, which is fine.
     
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  10. Your approach isn't new my friend. Their is a reason prostitution is called the oldest profession. ;)
     
  11. If the food addict forsakes all food then they die. If the horny person forsakes all sex they don't die.

    The two are not similar at all.
     
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  12. Mr Rn

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    mr milarepa, how tf do you not ejaculate during sex, do you edge a few times then stop or does it just take long to reach ejac?
     
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    He is a sith mate, he does not only edge, he has an orgasm without ejac, then another one, then another one, and when his sexual energy levels are going to pluto, he stops, and redirect all that energy to improve his vital energy all around the body.
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  14. Mr Rn

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    Lool i never even questioned the multiorgasms like what, take me to the dark side
     
  15. SickSicko

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    Read the book he recommended, the Tao of life sex and longevity - Daniel Reid, great book that can help as an introduction.
     
  16. MeTP

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    In early stage of my life and journey with alcohol I encountered, while drunk, one of my 'spiritual' experiences as teenager of observing my mind and reactions. But I wouldn't let encourage and describe it on Anonymous Alcoholics forum obviously knowing what kind of substance they are addicted to.
    You are so detached from reality that writing and encouraging such things as prostitution connected with human abuse, human trafficking, mafia and overall low level of human beings sometimes forced to act due to poverty, poor choices or broken families is below my level of tolerance. Sex is sacred. But writing such things in addicts forum is huge fault that I will report this post. Maybe one day you will become Milarepa like which I wish to you. Until now you are rather clown, insensitive to human poverty.
     
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  17. modern milarepa

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    Well, I'm glad we can discuss it in a calm matter. Woman sexuality is complex, many factors are needed for a woman to feel attraction and specially in long term relationships the flame of passion can be turned off for women pretty easily. Giving birth to children some women simply don't want to have sex after that, age, hormonal changes. The guy could have "nice guy syndrome" maybe he cheated once and after that the woman is unable to forgive him and have sex with him again.

    They could have small children, so a divorce can be a bad idea for the children. They can function in a home environment pretty well there is simply no sex.

    Some men, most of men can not live without sex in this case ocasional escorts can be a valid way to deal with the problem.

    Or you could simply divorce. It works too
     
  18. modern milarepa

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    You are right, maybe new or not very common in the NoFap page as an introduction to deal with sexual imbalances in a healthy way and not seen as another sexual problem using escorts.
     
  19. modern milarepa

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    Since a little kid I made part of the hindu tradition of brahmacharya. I always went to the monastery after school to meditate and eat lunch.

    I was in an only boy school so the only time I actually met women was at university. I lived periodically with them.

    And one full year in a very retire monastery before getting into Med school.
     
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  20. modern milarepa

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    @Augie were you a monk at some point? My heart it's very into monastic life. I love reading monk books and practice austerity.

    My father studied theologie he was also a minister and a professor of death tongues. I was catholic for a while. Now I'm a zen practitioner.
     

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