Question about porn vs. masturbating without it

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by JHA82, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. JHA82

    JHA82 Fapstronaut

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    So there's watching porn and masturbating. And there's masturbating without porn. I've been watching porn and masturbating since teenhood, and have ED issues with my wife, and I'm generally about 50/50 in terms of successfully finishing. Sometimes I masturbate just lying in bed, without any porn as well.

    Is there any success of reducing ED with cutting porn completely, cutting hand-masturbation completely ... and limiting my orgasms to either (1) just with my wife, or (1) on my own with a vaginal simulator sex toy and NO porn?

    I think one of my biggest issues is that my hand is different than a vagina, and I need to get more used to orgasming through what a vagina feels like. I can go 5-6 days without porn (usually it's only when I'm staying with my in-laws and therefore not working from home sitting in front of my computer). But I'm always fine when I take those breaks.

    Thoughts on this approach? Thanks!
     
  2. LavaMe

    LavaMe Fapstronaut

    You could have underlying medical issues. But I can say for me cutting both porn and masturbation helped tremendously with ED. I even found p-subs and excessive fantasy are harmful for me regarding ED.
     
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  3. Lenard Fosterman

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    You may relate to what I wrote here this afternoon.
     
  4. JHA82

    JHA82 Fapstronaut

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    Thanks, replying to that thread...
     
  5. Ditch this rubber vagina, it's not worth it. The first thing you have to get rid of is PORN. Then you should stop masturbation. I believe that only then you will have all the benefits.
     
  6. JHA82

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    Can you please explain more? Why is the rubber vagina (vs. not hand M) not worth it? I’m trying to cut porn regardless.
     
  7. I'm trying to say it's not the real thing, it might be more realistic than a hand, but it is still a fake. I think, if you want to experience the benefits of a reboot, you must reboot. You must take away every artificial coping mechanism. Biologically, I think that your hormones will only come back into balance if you stop ejaculating except in sex.
     
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  8. StonePlacidity

    StonePlacidity Fapstronaut

    porn is like sh*t, and masturbation is the tissue you used to wipe yourself. Would you only flush the sh*t and keep the used tissue? Or flush the used tissue but keep your sh*t?
     
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  9. Lenard Fosterman

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    Oh my dear... what a skewed and drastic analogy. You're throwing out the baby with the filthy bathwater. You M without having ever seen P or after having rewired your brain from P: how can that be wiping off the shit then, if there is no shit?
    My advice: Get a brand new tissue and use it in a different way. If you don't smirch it with shit, it won't stink.

    Btw: To shit is something you can't avoid (unless you stop eating) - other than P.
     
  10. Damnation

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    There is nothing wrong with it, be careful who you listen to around here, you don't have to look hard for people who have very distorted views of masterbation and sex. If you want to continue to M without porn, there is nothing wrong with that. Just avoid your hand, makes it too easy to reach O and makes you lazy. Work for it
     
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