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  1. Nor implicitly. I did not say that and I do not think that.
     
  2. Mistersofty

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    Fair enough.
     
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  3. Infrasapiens

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    "Would my mom be ashamed of me if I do this?"

    There.
     
  4. brilliantidiot

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    Without objective morality, there is no way to determine what is right or wrong. I'm probably going to get attacked for saying this but it seems to me that most atheists believe in objective morality, only they call it subjective and think it stems from the human instead of the supernatural (God). Very few people dare to simply deny morality as a whole, as the consequence of that throws our entire world into chaos.
     
  5. jk243

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    Definitely in what matters the most.
     
  6. jk243

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    I wouldn’t say no meaning. You can create a meaning but you have no right to give yourself a meaning cause you are a created being.
     
  7. What i was referring to was that its common sense for your own moral compass. Universal morality isnt real bc morality varies by person basis, like you were explaining. But its common sense to fimd your moral compass amd determine whats good and wrong.

    For example, i know for a fact that i view certain things as "not bad" that yoy and others here on this site would classify as "horrible and immoral".

    Neither of us are right. Its subjective and our own ideals. For somebody to think their way is defintely moral or not is very arrogant and ignorant, & quit inintelligent
     
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  8. jk243

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    Good answer but to live without a meaning is a great burden that can lead to suicide ...
     
  9. jk243

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    Do you believe there is such thing as « true « ?
     
  10. Youre condusimg atheism with nihilism. Its nit like people who dont believe in god dont care about amything else.

    If the amswer is "none" which is a very small part of my actual answer, its not like "fuck it, lets die". Maybe life having no meaning IS the meaning. (I can't get into that explanation atm)
     
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  11. true what?
     
  12. CTRL + DEL

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    Good question.
    Common Sense and human bias.

    To elaborate, almost everything taught in religions, particularly Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism minus the Christian bullshit of blasphemy, God and his not so dead dead son and the Hindu belief of 4835x10²³⁶⁷³ Gods.
     
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  13. This is a slippery slope. Sure, it can be a part of a depressed person's mindset, but this depends on what said person's depressed about and whether they're depressed at all.
     
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  14. I'm inclined to not amswer this to not start anything...
    Learning, yes! Ive learned alot of useful things from books. Do i let these books guide my life? Not really, that would be crazy.

    As far as the last part, you're absolutely right. They arent wholly my own. I have role models, i have personal experiences in life that i learned from, and i have pondered the moralities of my situstion and my perception
     
  15. jk243

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    Human Bias?

    so you affirm that king or conqueror who was wiping out civilization and killing people were doing nothing wrong in their time? Cause it was common for people then.
     
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  16. i_have_pizza

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    I guess it's quality. It's may sound strange on the first glance, but when someone asks, for example, for your help, it's harder to help, than not to help. Physically, for example, by resource, etc, so, harder actions is kinda more right and has more quality, than easier ways. Same with porn. You can go way of quality and approach real partners, or by easy way. You can run away from the probems, or you can meet them. Good and bad vary not only inside society, but from one person to other and there is nothing like objective good and wrong, it's always related to person. Because good and bad is conception of human, not the nature.

    You think, that if there is no meaning I ammidiately need to start to want to die? Lol. No, it's not works like this. Besides meaning of life there are a lot of other reasons to live. I'm not even asking myself this question, I don't care at all do my life has meaning or not.
     
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  17. CTRL + DEL

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    You're forgetting the question you yourself asked.
    I'll quote it again:
    You didn't ask whether or not I factor morality into my own decision-making.

    The only use of morality for me is to understand what drives others, and I must say, so far, it has yet to fail me.

    As for my own life and ethics, morals are immaterial to me. So long as I do not break the law, I am comfortable taking any action necessary to better my position.

    That said, the answer to your question is that I don't honestly care about whatever that king did, because as long as he is dead and not an influence in my life, I could care less about his life.
     
  18. i_have_pizza

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    It's wrong only for you, not for people, that lived in their times.

    It's popular, but wrong idea. You will never be able to not to hurt people around. With most of your actions someone will be hurt, even if you will not notice.
     
  19. So you’ve learned a lot from books but that knowledge from said books has not helped you guide your life? Then you admit that your position is not wholly your own. I don’t see how you have the “thinking for myself” high ground over anyone else who holds a belief system.
     
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  20. I use what inventors of religions used when they tried to inject morality into their stories. Intuition and common sense.
     

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