Questions about religion.

"Mother gaia bless us all"
Nature based deities are the true culture! Born out of respect for our provider 'mother nature' the personifications of nature and cosmic order are the true tradition!

The semetic concept of god have ruined our connection with truth ! We denounced our ancestral values for the fake political ideologue!
All ancient cultures knew earth was millions of years old ! Yet we were fooled by biblical myths ! It was a big political fraud!

Christianity and islam ! Are incoherent with the nature of reality and cosmic order! They defy and disrespect natural law!

 

Disagree. Always different versions of the truth. Eskimos have 36 different words for snow. An elevator is a lift. Why can’t Allah, God, etc all be the same?

 

Glad to see someone who gets it

 

No they are not as ideologue is not similar! No ancient culture had the discourse of believer and infidel ! Their actions speak louder than the love they so gladly promote! Love for jesus is good but if I don't believe in him am I going to hell? If I don't believe in Allah am I going to be beheaded? All ancient pagan cultures had a sure belief that everyone will be saved eventually!
Will infidels be saved in the eyes of abraham?

 

Im christian , with more simpaty to the Orthodoxs , but ive been watching stuff about Zoroastrism , the religion of the Achemenid, Pontic and Sassinid Empires in modern day Iran , it is one of the oldests monotheistic religion of ever , and it has simmilarities to Christianity , unfortunaly allahus destroyed them.....now only 200000 people are Zoroastrism , its a shame because it looks like a much better and tollerant than islam......they dont like to explode themselfs neither marry underage children !

Ahura Mazda bless us on this journey to freedom of porn

 

This depends on which religion and version of The Mighty One you believe.

personally, I’m a big believer that religion gets in the way of one’s relationship with The Mighty One. Why do you need a go-between, a book, an organization and all the other trappings to commune spiritually ? All that stuff gets in the way and just causes interference, confusion and division.

If you need a middleman in your belief of God/Allah/Yahweh, you’re missing the point.

 

I think good people can happen to be religious, but I don't think that religion is a net benefit to society. Plus religion is based on spirituality, and spirituality is based on faith, and faith is based on feelings rather than empirical data. Until such time that someone is able to demonstrate why their religious claims are true, I see no point in religion.

 

Am an atheist myself and the definition of religion and natural deities is totally different! Deities born out of respect for nature are acceptable unlike that all knowing and all powerful creator god who wants others to be converted ! I mean if you are all knowing and all powerful why not just give all people the same revelation! But that's not possible is it ?

 

Aww Heaven No!
Religion is a need of Humanity. Humans are emotional beings.
A large chunk of the population, if not most understand religion.
Not everybody can Let their thoughts flow, actually analyse what’s good for them, for the society.
Not everybody understands these things,
But but..
They understand religion. Which keeps them on track.

I respect the Religion, because of its massive contribution to the progress and Maintenance of that progress of Humanity.

Also,
Superstitions are an inevitable By-Product of Religion.

 

I would never have given any thought about religion until I had a taste of divine love, and God has been my yearning ever since, even despite myself at times, for there is no other place I can go - my freedom finds it true boundlessness in the infinite - there my soul soars in delight; any finite path proves to be a prison, as I've also discovered all too well.

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I'm not really religious. But I do believe if everyone in the world followed the teachings of Jesus Christ the world would be a much better place.

One thing I have an issue with though is the bible doesn't really agree with homosexuality etc. I am more a let and let live kind of guy. But apart from that I think all the other teachings of Jesus Christ would make the world a better place.

Lets face it, we live in a world full of evil, greed and corruption. These things are not the teachings of Jesus Christ what so ever.

 

Love is the thing that makes you WANT to surrender.
God is love, I have experienced that in my own life. Surrendering sounds like you have to act like a coward. But, that's the case if you should be FORCED to surrender to somebody who wants to have power over you, to suppress you and to have control over you. That's the case with the p0rn industry for example. They want you to surrender to p0rn and then you will become a slave of it. It's all about power and money.

Surrendering to the love of God is totally different. God is love. When you feel that love you will experience the best, divine thing, free making unprisoning and liberating thing of your life.
You will then understand that God is good and that He loves you. You will experience that this love is not enslaving you but is freeing you from other enslavements instead. More this love will show you THAT you are enslaved to things you thought they were a benefit for you.
This love will create the longing for more what causes you want to serve God in every possible way.
You will know that this love is so holy it must come from God Himself. And it will give you the understanding that there is just one God.
So surrendering to this love doesn't make you a coward, it will fill you with pure power and energy, you will become a conqueror over everything in life.

Nothing wrong with surrendering, it depends on who ypu are surrendering yourself to.
In other words, to who you are trusting yourself to.

 

The only reason we still live in a primitive world is religion. Religious people think that what they've read, heard, think, feel, their gut feeling, has any value and stick to it even when presented with evidence. This is unreal.

Flat earthers, anti vaxxers, corona virus deniers, gmos being bad, animal products being healthy to eat, supernatural things existing. All things that have been proven to be wrong yet people go with...something else.

Religion is the absolute worst thing we have, it greatly slows down progress.

Even if religion was real and true we should be atheist because any religion that causes this world is evil. Just a thought because all religions have been disproven.

 

I disagree with a few of the statements you made.

But one thing I will say about religion is I have seen many people who were not religious, who weren't good people, then they got in to religion, and after they became religious they did actually become much better people. I have seen this happen many times.

Something that I have actually noticed religion doing to a lot of people is it seems to make a lot of people less greedy and selfish. It's as if it causes a lot of people to want to be pleasant to everyone, and somewhat go out their way to help everyone.

 

You're missing the big picture. The most religious countries are the most primitive ones. Religion would just take us back to the dark ages.

 

We are in a dark age, just because we have technology doesn't make it less dark, in fact I think it makes it even darker...

 

I don't know. I just can say religion has given we Iranians a pretty bad impression, especially Islam. The religion's the reason we don't have a normal life like the rest of the world.
Good or bad, I lost my connection to religion when I was very young. As many others did here.

 

I've changed my stance on religion quite a bit since my last post here. I'm no longer the "haha show me empirical evidence" cringey atheist I once was.

I think it makes perfect sense that religion was invented, because it accommodates many of the most essential human needs under one blanket. It provides something to almost everyone, and I'm not saying that this is a good or bad thing. People can use religion for good and bad purposes, just like they can use governments for good and bad purposes. Ultimately, I might consider religion a bad thing because it rests on unjustified claims and wishful thinking, but can humans ever be purely logical? Maybe it is asking too much of humanity to give up religion at this point in time. Maybe we aren't ready yet, as silly as that sounds.

I actually agree with what Karl Marx said in his famous "Opiate of the Masses" quote:

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.​

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.​

I seriously suggest to anyone reading that you check out the Wikipedia page on this quote for better context and explanation. It really is interesting. This is one of the most misquoted excerpts from Marx, often used by atheists to describe religion as a harmful drug (Vladimir Lenin is one such example - see his quote referencing Marx on the Wikipedia page I've linked). Such an interpretation does not align with Marx's position at all. Though I wouldn't describe it as favorably or romantically as Marx, I agree with him that religion, for better or worse, serves a function. This is not to say that religion serves a unique function and is therefore necessary, but its historical and contemporary roles are without question. I would still prefer that it didn't exist and for people's needs to be met some other way.