Rebooting, abstinence and aggression - your experiences?

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path_finder

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Hey guys.

I have made an experience worth a new thread: If I don't fap to porn (or fap without) for one or two week, I felt like on the Streets out there, I am way more aggressive. I don't feel very comfortable with that. I know that everytime I get back to PMO, I get depressed, get headache in my temples. Those are two alternatives. I also feel Kind of full if I don't fap, like a cow that waits to be milked. If I fap, I feel empty, relieved, and later in the day: sad. I got These two choices: Rebooting and being aggressive, or fapping and being relieved but less enthusiastic About life and less humorous.

What are your experiences in this dichotomy between nofap/noPMO + Aggression on the one side, and fap/yesPMO + Depression (or confusion or any other bad Emotion) on the other side.

What do you recommend to get out of this Dilemma?

Best regards
Philipp (I had a relapse to some great female screen performer today (thank you for that, miss), but not because I was afraid from my Aggression, but because I was horny and wanted to fap my cock).
 
Aggression is a characterisation of behavior, moreover, it's usually applied by the outside observer. So I'll instead speak about anger. Mild irritation or rage - let's call them different degrees of anger.
Anger itself is a better feeling emotion than depression. You said that you didn't like it.
So I have a question for you. Did you really feel worse when you felt angry, or do you judge yourself for feeling "aggression", and thus feel bad?
On the practical level, regardless of what you reply, next time you feel angry, try just feeling angry. Just feel those feelings. Don't fight them, don't suppress them, don't distract yourself, and don't act out on them. Just feel them. If you have the thoughts that come with the anger, let them be what they are. Don't act on them, but don't resist them.
See what happens.
I think you don't let yourself be angry, and thus spin around in circles, when your psychological apparatus just wants to go past the rage to something even more powerful - like frustration, and then - satisfaction.
Try it out a few times, but not now - only when you are actually feeling angry at the moment. Preferably go to a room by yourself, sit or stand and just feel it.
 
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A0818047 said:
Hey guys.

I have made an experience worth a new thread: If I don't fap to porn (or fap without) for one or two week, I felt like on the Streets out there, I am way more aggressive. I don't feel very comfortable with that. I know that everytime I get back to PMO, I get depressed, get headache in my temples. Those are two alternatives. I also feel Kind of full if I don't fap, like a cow that waits to be milked. If I fap, I feel empty, relieved, and later in the day: sad. I got These two choices: Rebooting and being aggressive, or fapping and being relieved but less enthusiastic About life and less humorous.

What are your experiences in this dichotomy between nofap/noPMO + Aggression on the one side, and fap/yesPMO + Depression (or confusion or any other bad Emotion) on the other side.

What do you recommend to get out of this Dilemma?

Best regards
Philipp (I had a relapse to some great female screen performer today (thank you for that, miss), but not because I was afraid from my Aggression, but because I was horny and wanted to fap my cock).
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Sorry, but this is bullshit. Abstention is no excuse to be and act more aggressive. Yes, your testosterone goes up for the first 7 days and gradually increases after that, but that's normal state. Draining your balls constantly is what's not normal. You have to learn how to translate excessive energy into doing beneficial activities. My solution has been walking/running/cycling uphill for 60-90 min followed by WIM HOF breathing/meditation/cold showers daily and weightlifting/stretching 3 times a week. After few months of this routine I feel inner peace I've never felt before. You have to find your own routine that works for you. "Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power." - Lao Tzu
 
IbrahimViking said:
Aggression is a characterisation of behavior, moreover, it's usually applied by the outside observer. So I'll instead speak about anger. Mild irritation or rage - let's call them different degrees of anger.
Anger itself is a better feeling emotion than depression. You said that you didn't like it.
So I have a question for you. Did you really feel worse when you felt angry, or do you judge yourself for feeling "aggression", and thus feel bad?
On the practical level, regardless of what you reply, next time you feel angry, try just feeling angry. Just feel those feelings. Don't fight them, don't suppress them, don't distract yourself, and don't act out on them. Just feel them. If you have the thoughts that come with the anger, let them be what they are. Don't act on them, but don't resist them.
See what happens.
I think you don't let yourself be angry, and thus spin around in circles, when your psychological apparatus just wants to go past the rage to something even more powerful - like frustration, and then - satisfaction.
Try it out a few times, but not now - only when you are actually feeling angry at the moment. Preferably go to a room by yourself, sit or stand and just feel it.
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Anger feels better than Post porn Depression. To fap feels great at the moment but Not afterwards.

I judged myself for being angry. Once I was mean in an e-mail to the Woman that doesnt want me. I have angry Feelings and an angry Expression on my face... i am impatient and verbal insults may occur. Yes I resist my own Anger and dont let IT Out. I am afraid cause in me Waits a very compulsive person Like Lincoln Burrows from Prison Break. I locked my angry me Up by fapping to porn for years. IT wasnt the right Thing either. Just Feeling my anger I will try that.
 
The anger will not go away if you lock it down. That's the issue. It's like a monster you chained in the basement. It's rocking the floor and it's rattling the chains. You can only let it go by feeling it, feeling the heck out of it, alone in your room. Take a pillow, lock the door and be with it. Taunt it, tell it "Is that as angry as you can get? Bring it on!".
I would argue that acting out in anger is actually a result of the "monster" (normal emotions) locked up in you. Writing letters or talking, is an action, taken on the basis of anger, and I suggest that you feel it run through you. The emotions you don't like, don't like you either and want to run away from you. Let them go. The only way it can go is through you.
 
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IbrahimViking said:
The anger will not go away if you lock it down. That's the issue. It's like a monster you chained in the basement. It's rocking the floor and it's rattling the chains. You can only let it go by feeling it, feeling the heck out of it, alone in your room. Take a pillow, lock the door and be with it. Taunt it, tell it "Is that as angry as you can get? Bring it on!".
I would argue that acting out in anger is actually a result of the "monster" (normal emotions) locked up in you. Writing letters or talking, is an action, taken on the basis of anger, and I suggest that you feel it run through you. The emotions you don't like, don't like you either and want to run away from you. Let them go. The only way it can go is through you.
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Time also helps. Acting Out Long enough without heavily harming anyone.
 
Fenix Rising said:
Sorry, but this is bullshit. Abstention is no excuse to be and act more aggressive. Yes, your testosterone goes up for the first 7 days and gradually increases after that, but that's normal state. Draining your balls constantly is what's not normal. You have to learn how to translate excessive energy into doing beneficial activities. My solution has been walking/running/cycling uphill for 60-90 min followed by WIM HOF breathing/meditation/cold showers daily and weightlifting/stretching 3 times a week. After few months of this routine I feel inner peace I've never felt before. You have to find your own routine that works for you. "Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power." - Lao Tzu
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Yea true that But productivity is hard to achieve. Of course WE wouldnt fap If There were no Internet porn. But WE got IT. Millionen of people fap so IT must be very normal and okay. Of course Nofap shouldnt bei an excuse being aggressive but i was aggressive before already.
 
It is.Most likely a form of withdrawal from falling you hormone levels are coming back to there normal levels in males it is common you will have to be aware of you level of frustration good luck
 
I also think it is a withdrawal symptom, related to the dopamine levels. It is a confusing feeling, a mix of impatience and dissatisfaction, that makes you angry.
 
I would certainly give it at least 3 months to see if the anger you are experiencing is simply a withdrawal symptoms, which i think it likely is. I have had a lot of anger in stages throughout all my reboots, but it goes away after some time.
 
Ezpz said:
I would certainly give it at least 3 months to see if the anger you are experiencing is simply a withdrawal symptoms, which i think it likely is. I have had a lot of anger in stages throughout all my reboots, but it goes away after some time.
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what Comes after the Anger?
 
path_finder said:
Yea true that But productivity is hard to achieve. Of course WE wouldnt fap If There were no Internet porn. But WE got IT. Millionen of people fap so IT must be very normal and okay. Of course Nofap shouldnt bei an excuse being aggressive but i was aggressive before already.
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It doesn't make it OK to fap just because millions if not billions do it. That's herd mentality. Masses indulge in all kinds of harmful activities to achieve instant gratification, I've been guilty of being one of them for far too long, but that doesn't mean these activities don't harm them mentally and/or physically. You have to learn how to think with your own head. Sometimes it's OK to go with the flow of society, but in today's times, when we're being constantly manipulated and bombarded with consumerist propaganda, it usually isn't the way one should be walking to achieve his/her true potential. As your avatar's name suggest, you're searching for the right path to follow. I advice you to read Dr. Wayne Dyer's book Change Your Thoughts Change Your Life. It's basically his interpretation of Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching. This book should be mandatory to read in our schools. It really is THE tutorial on how one should live life to find inner and outer peace in the world. I was raised catholic and was astounded to find out how similar Lao Tzu's philosophy is to the preaching of Jesus. I guess universal truth is the same, no matter if it comes from the East or the West. Audio book can be listened here:

 
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Simply withdrawal symptoms. Addictions are the hardest things to combat in one's life. Patience is key.
 
Fenix Rising said:
It doesn't make it OK to fap just because millions if not billions do it. That's herd mentality. Masses indulge in all kinds of harmful activities to achieve instant gratification, I've been guilty of being one of them for far too long, but that doesn't mean these activities don't harm them mentally and/or physically. You have to learn how to think with your own head. Sometimes it's OK to go with the flow of society, but in today's times, when we're being constantly manipulated and bombarded with consumerist propaganda, it usually isn't the way one should be walking to achieve his/her true potential. As your avatar's name suggest, you're searching for the right path to follow. I advice you to read Dr. Wayne Dyer's book Change Your Thoughts Change Your Life. It's basically his interpretation of Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching. This book should be mandatory to read in our schools. It really is THE tutorial on how one should live life to find inner and outer peace in the world. I was raised catholic and was astounded to find out how similar Lao Tzu's philosophy is to the preaching of Jesus. I guess universal truth is the same, no matter if it comes from the East or West. Audio book can be listened here:

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I once read a book from him partially.

I am afraid I won't be able to study successfully in the upcoming Semester... but that is just a fear that has no real substance… I am unsure. I hope I will make it again to succeed!

I think what is sure by now that porn (and fapping) brings us bad effects. dangerous is the mental Situation, Irritation, confusion, less good mood… I don't know.
 
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