Warning: This thread is explicit and intended for men. Prone Masturbation = achieving orgasm, faced down, either by thrusting into a pillow, thrusting into duvet/mattress, thrusting into hand or anything equivalent. Here is a useful websites about this: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/por...ing-problems-traumatic-masturbation-syndrome/ http://www.healthystrokes.com/pronechange.html (Warning - this site does encourage masturbation) Hi all, I wanted to share my story of an initial successful switch from prone masturbation to conventional masturbation to give people here some hope, who perhaps like me have been doing prone since a very young age. I am 29 years old and started M using prone when I was below 10 years old (i.e. >2 decades ago!!!!!) and up until last Tuesday I have always masturbated prone. Problems like erectile dysfunction had never been a known issue for me because I had a strict upbringing so can't be with a women up until marriage. I found this site last year and soon discovered my method was prone and very dangerous! but I had a goal of stopping altogether instead of switching methods. I still think this idea is achievable but very hard. After joining here last year I managed to reach over 70 days no PMO within a very short space of time so I didn't bother switching (as I thought I could stop altogether) but found that after that first big streak I could hardly go even 7 days and would always resort to MO using prone. Initial attempts to switch I initially tried changing methods but found I would lose my erection very easily so I gave up after a few attempts. I was used to reaching orgasm within 5 minutes using prone so after about 20 minutes of the normal method I would get very frustrated . I continued trying to abstain from all MO but kept relapsing and ended up using the prone method. I can get turned on very easily with my imagination but find when I am on my back those thoughts are very hard to maintain (so expect this problem). I found even the act of turning onto my stomach would stimulate sexual thoughts immediately ready for me to masturbate via prone. I sometimes get awoken at the middle of the night with a huge desire for M and even in these cases I couldn't M without using prone. Trying longer abstinence Earlier this year I tried a longer abstinence streak (14 days) before trying to switch methods but again I found it hard to hold my erection. The best I could do was hold it long enough for release of pre-cum but no orgasm or ejaculation. I am circumcised and another issue I found is that the friction from moving my hand back and forth was causing discomfort in a longer session so had to keep stopping every few minutes. I decided at the time to buy lube but then the COVID lockdown happened I relapsed as normal since then until last Tuesday where I successfully managed to switch. The switch My last MO session which was prone was 5 days before this, so even after 20 years I didn't have to abstain very long - you can do this too!!! Firstly I tried the method for about 20 minutes with no success. I could hold my erection but not finish. So I decided to use a porn substitute (audio) and played content which involved a female voice and nothing related to any of my fetishes (to avoid any issues later on). IF YOU ARE USING AUDIO AS A SUB, BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO USE CONTENT THAT INVOLVES HYPNOSIS OR RELATING TO ANY FETISHES AS THAT WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS IN REAL RELATIONSHIPS! I have seen many forums to this effects so please avoid this at all costs. At first I found I repeatedly released pre cum (clear liquid) so kept having to clean that up as I was working but finally after about 50 minutes of this I managed to reach orgasm and ejaculated cum. I did this without gripping very hard at all - I had a very loose grip BUT I was moving my hand up and down quite fast which I think would be hard to imitate during real sex. This is something I hope to work on. So to anyone who has been stuck on prone for a long time THERE IS HOPE I did find the intensity of the pleasure was very similar to the level I achieved using prone - I would even go as far to say 90% of the pleasure. I didn't expect this as I had read it would be a lot less. I also observed the quantity of the cum was a lot more than when I masturbated prone. After a short break I tried to go again but the second time took much longer - almost 1.5 hours and again I had to use the P-Sub. I then left it another day before going again and this time trying without the p-sub. However, I found I could not push myself to ejaculate, only release pre-cum. I then used the p-sub again and ejaculated. It took about 10 minutes less than the time before (40 minutes in total with 20 minutes using the P-Sub). Advice for switching > Lube is not absolutely necessary to achieve this but I think it would help. > I committed to never watching porn again so I didn't resort to actual porn to stimulate myself but you will likely need something that turns you on for the first session (please don't resort to porn itself or any type of audio porn that involves hypnosis). If you are in a relationship hopefully your partner will be able to help you here. If your not, I would advise a p-sub as the lesser of the 2 evils and then aim to eliminate it as soon as possible. > I found the top 'helmet' of my penis was the most sensitive part - at the time I reached orgasm I was griping only the top half of my penis but this may vary per person. I assume sensitivity will return to all parts after a prolonged period of not doing prone but given my case I will not expect a full recovery after only 1 month as suggested on the healthy strokes website. Moving forward > I have committed to never masturbating prone ever again. Also, as it takes a long time to M normally I find I am put off M on occasions where I would normally as I don't have enough time. > I will try and wean myself off the p-sub, hopefully this won't be too difficult!!!! > I will try and slow down the pace of my hand so that it can be slow enough to imitate a real scenario and continue to avoid gripping harder. I hope this helps someone. I am very aware of my original objective of stopping PMO altogether - this switching method is just a means to stop this self harm I am doing by prone. Once I can do that I will refocus on stopping altogether.