Regarding the moderation of threads, especially ones with religious content.

onceaking · Feb 3, 2021

Munchausen said: ↑

People who have encountered faith very recently are religiously very immature. You want to hold every one and let them know how wrong their faith is, while you have not practised your faith properly for even one whole year straight ( that is why you are here ! Isn't it?) . How can you be the ambassador of things you don't practise yourselves. No hard feelings. I'm just trying to make you realise something.
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He's only upholding the rules of this forum. If people don't like the rules they don't have join the forum.

Agent · Feb 27, 2021

I agree with this, as a christian myself i try to do my best on when to talk about what i believe and when its time to not mention due to the lack of context etc, yet i see very regularly across the site people being highly blasphemous when certain members give their opinion with no intent on offending anyone. I hope regardless the religious position any mod has i ask them to be just.

Deleted Account · Oct 7, 2021

sparkywantsnoPMO said: ↑

There have been a series of users recently who have been upset that their posts have been moved, edited, or deleted. What these posts have in common is their inclusion of religious discussion.

Let us begin with the most important point: The purpose of NoFap is to foster a community that helps each other reboot from Pornography use. That’s it. It’s not here to debate political opinions, proselytize for a religion, or attack people’s faith. A person suffering from an addiction is in a weakened state. They need help and support where they are. A faith or secular system they currently possess can and should be a tool they use to aid in recovery. This is not the time to convince them their beliefs are wrong. Anyone recovering must learn for themselves to find their path.

This is the reasoning behind our rule:

The NoFap Moderation Team as a whole isn’t Christian, or Athiest, or any other specific faith. We are a diverse team with a mix of beliefs. NoFap’s goal on the main forum sections is to provide information any user from any faith can use. When it comes to religious content, we do require them to exist in the religious sections. This both separates the information for those not interested, and makes it easier for those who are interested to find it. It should also be pointed out that the moderation team organizing content is not limited to religious content; dozens of threads are moved weekly for all types of reasons. A common criticism is that a user would rather have their post where they wanted instead of where the forum guidelines dictate, usually because of perceived visibility. Let us repeat: The purpose of NoFap is to foster a community that helps each other reboot from Pornography use. It is not to give your post maximum visibility. Placing it in the wrong section makes it harder to find content.

Users who have posts moved, edited, or deleted sometimes complain that they believe a moderator is singling them out or is biased against them. The NoFap moderation team wants to assure you our internal process defends against this. First, please note we are a global and volunteer team. Each of us contributes as our life allows. The forum software is setup for one moderator to closeout a report. When a user receives a warning from a single moderator, that does not mean they were the only moderator involved, only that they are the one with time to complete the action. On each report, the entire team has the opportunity to provide input and discuss. This is not to say every report ends in unanimous agreement, but we do take our responsibilities seriously, we always strive to act in accordance with the forum rules, and we take action based on a majority opinion, similar to the way a panel of court judges may function. When a user requests an appeal, we discuss it again, and determine if we missed anything. If we did, we reverse it. On a final note, if a moderator believes they cannot be objective on a report, whether it is because of personal interactions with one of the users, personal belief conflicts, or some other reason, they recuse themselves from the decision. All of this happens before moderation occurs.

Users may complain that they feel their freedom of speech is prohibited. First note that freedom of speech provisions are in place to restrain governments from restricting speech. They do not restrain private organizations from determining what content they want on their websites. The forum rules are discussed and revised annually, yet they will always support the site’s mission: The purpose of NoFap is to foster a community that helps each other reboot from Pornography use. Users that choose to act contrary to the rules, and therefore contrary to NoFap’s purpose, are warned, and if they refuse to change their behavior, may be banned from the site. Second, moving a thread to a specific section of the site is not removing someone’s speech. It is properly categorizing it, the same way a librarian categorizes books by content.

On a final, more personal note, the moderators that I have worked alongside these past years are both good people, and humans like the rest of us. There are days we may disagree emphatically, but we all hear each other out, we value each other’s experiences and backgrounds that we bring to the table, and we are able to bring reasoned moderation decisions consistently. We don’t expect everyone to agree with every decision we make. And every decision has to be balanced with the amount of context available, that is what is occurring in reported post, the posts that were replied to, that page, that thread, and that user. Every moderation decision is a judgment call on how deep we should research to get a decision, compared with how much time life will spare us. This is why some decisions take longer than you may like, and why others may not turn out the way the you expect. But I can personally promise you that the moderators involved did take time to review, consider, and comment before it resolved.

It is my hope this post provides some background and insight to all of you. Thank you for your time.

Very Respectfully,
SparkywantsnoPMO
NoFap Moderation Team
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This is a good point. People will be criticized regardless of what the topic is, but if it’s off NF rules then it should be deleted.

More concerning point is, is that people will be criticized for personal beliefs and views. Just because your not the same belief doesn’t mean you need to start a argument about it. Hope more people read into this.

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