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Relapsed on Day 26 - How to get better streak integrity?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Philippian4:13, May 1, 2021.

  1. Philippian4:13

    Philippian4:13 Fapstronaut

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    Well, today I relapsed hard after a tough week of constant urges and fantasizing. Relapse was nearly inevitable on this streak, because of my failure to control my thoughts. Due to my fantasizing in the daytime, nearly every night, I had vivid dreams about porn and relapsing.

    In my prior streak, where I made it four months without PMO, I completely quit fantasizing and relapsed after getting "curious" and taking a peek. This streak was a constant mental battle.

    Now I am so determined to rid myself of porn, fantasizing, peeking, edging, masturbating. All of it!

    How can we overcome these dark thoughts? Any ideas for getting better streak integrity? I have found that trying to do NoFap, but entertaining explicit thoughts is like trying to break a junk food habit while working a doughnut shop.

    I'm willing to do anything to break free from these chains. What do I have to do differently this time? Please help!
     
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  2. I just set harsher rules for myself.

    I peek? I reset my counter.
    I fantasize actively for more than 5 seconds? I reset my counter.

    Everyone has their own "ruleset", but I prefer my streaks CLEAN.
     
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  3. Sora144

    Sora144 New Fapstronaut

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    You should learn what mistakes you have made from your last relapse. Do something which can change the outcome of you relapsing into something productive.
    Example: About to watch porn on a phone to reading a book and more.
    Try replacing these activities.
     
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  4. luckydog

    luckydog Fapstronaut

    Okay, I know a few things about you but in your post history there is little about what you have done. So perhaps I'll take it from the top, if you'd like to see a comprehensive list of what my story is there is my journal in five parts, and a few tools I use successfully in my own recovery.

    I just read your post with your own story and your 112-day streak. A few simple questions follow: Did you put into place any Accountability Partners, or did you go porn-free in 'white-knuckle' mode? Not having other men who understand the struggle and can give practical advice (as well as sharing their own experiences and insights along the way), means you try to become porn- and masturbation-free alone. And that is a recipe for disaster. Secondly: Did you put into place basic safeguards, such as deleting all your online porn accounts, putting into place strong filters (I use CovenantEyes, I've heard good things about K9 and Accoutable2U) and shutting off all devices at a certain time at night (typically an hour before normal bedtime)? My own smartphone lives now on my desk around 930pm on weeknights, 10pm on weekends, and I go screen-free. Thirdly: Did you get involved in a church men's group where pornography addiction can be discussed, or a 12-step PAA group or SAA group? Without a structured group, your accountability can go up exponentially; you are not only accountable to a single AP, but many men. Super-powerful and so helpful IMHO. Fourthly: Did you learn about your addiction, and by 'learn' I mean not the stuff online (videos and websites) of dubious and varying quality. I mean books. For example, the AA Big Book I'm reading now and it's great. Just substitute porn addiction for alcoholism and you're set. Reading Patrick Carnes Out of the Shadows is an absolute revelation. Doug Weiss The Final Freedom was so helpful to me in discussing emotions and their connection to sexual addiction.

    Okay, one more fifth question: did you come up with a written plan? You mean you make more plans for your next month at work but you just freestyle your way through a gripping addiction that has absolute power over your will? Matt Dobschuetz (author of the excellent Porn Free Radio) has a free one here (listen to the video, sign up for the newsletter, and get the PDF with the plan layout). I've written up my second plan, after the first 30-day plan, and the second one has improved a lot. A simple, and effective, tool.

    I'll await answers before volunteering any specifics. It doesn't have to be endless years of back-and-forth, it is not only a spiritual problem, it is not only a biological problem, it is also an emotional problem, it is also an intimacy problem, going porn-free may uncover a host of unresolved emotional issues that pornography and masturbation buried for years. But I get ahead of myself.
     
  5. Philippian4:13

    Philippian4:13 Fapstronaut

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    Hey Luckydog,

    Thank you for the well-thought-out post! I ended up reading through your story and really enjoyed hearing about your journey. It sounds like NoFap has been a profound experience for you that helped you grow in so many ways. While it really sucks that your church caused you to enter into a cycle of shame about your addiction, I'm glad that you were able to break free of that shameful feeling and open up to others. Although you have only been on this journey for a short period of time, you've taken a ton of valuable action steps, which are not only helping you break free from an addiction, but also grow as a person. Such an awesome mindset!

    I have one accountability partner, who is my brother, but am really interested in finding a group to candidly discuss this addiction with. Learning more perspectives is going to be super beneficial, and the act of honestly sharing can definitely do wonders. Are you part of any groups, and if so, how did you find out about them?

    Every time I relapse, I identify the trigger and take action to reduce or eliminate the trigger. However, a recent stumbling block has been figuring out a browser that easily bypasses every trigger and guard that is in place. It doesn't help that I've been fantasizing nonstop as of late and allowing these thoughts to control me. Creating an action plan can definitely help. I currently have to mindset, that "This relapse is going to be the very last. I don't need to create plan." However, you are correct that creating a plan, which outlines specific goals and action steps is absolutely necessary for meeting and exceeding goals. Something I will incorporate. At the end of the day, as you mention, porn is a symptom of a greater emotional or spiritual issue, which I am still working to figure out.

    My whole life, I have excessively stimulated my brain with dopamine, whether that be porn, music, watching videos, or surfing the web; so porn is part of this larger addiction. Almost a form of escapism. There's always an itch that says "Quick, just read one more sports article before you get back to work. This song is boring. Find a more exciting one before you do your next exercise at the gym." Part of that probably stems from growing up in a "smartphone" generation. Here is an interesting article (long read.) https://neurosciencenews.com/neuroscience-pornography-brain-15354/ It basically talks about how porn destroys the area of bain called the "pre-frontal cortex," which is the area responsible for decision-making, impulse control, and future planning. It's interesting to think about how closely porn is linked to other mental issues.

    My end goal is not only to break free from porn but also this larger addiction that is instant gratification and constant stimulus. I want to get to a place where I am happy to just be in a room alone in my thoughts and feel deeply at peace with myself, God, others, and the world.
     
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  6. luckydog

    luckydog Fapstronaut

    Hi - thanks for the additional detail. I've frankly found the neuroscience stuff to be a hot load of garbage, as so many here look at their addiction to pornography and masturbation from a biological standpoint, which doesn't help at all in their existing condition. FWIW I started my learning with Wilsons' Your Brain on Porn (the book, not the website) and could not finish it. (Disclaimer: scientist by training). Why did I not find any use for this information? Because it describes all the brain plasticity, which is the effect of pornography and masturbation and orgasm on the brain. It does nothing for unpacking the reasons why we habitually and addictively turn to pornography.

    Here on this site (and I am aware that I am posting these thoughts on this site) 12-step programs are not really emphasized, and plenty of low-effort and low-quality posts abound with men in the middle of their struggle - often for years - away and back to porn and trying to get away again. It is quite the picture of hell, in agony knowing how bad being addicted is, bound by these chains, the very picture of suffering. I have a bookmark that I purchased from El Prado museum in Madrid, of one of the most striking pieces of art I have seen in my life: Bosco's The Garden of Earthly Delights. (Trigger warning: artwork of nude images as well as people suffering in the most perverted ways, so I won't link to it.) Anyway, you are absolutely correct: it is ACTION AND CONNECTION TO OTHERS that makes the real difference, not hopping online and typing out your thoughts to the ether.

    I read with active interest Patrick Carnes' Out of the Shadows, with the 12-steps as its central feature (written in 1983); Doug Weiss' excellent The Final Freedom (1997 or so) expanded in a few ways Carnes' framework with additional (and useful) analysis of his own, tying it also back to (you guessed it) the 12-steps of AA.

    I found a few AP's on the subforum to this site, as well as reaching out directly to individuals who seemed 'stuck' in their respective spots and cried out for some kind of help. So in the spirit of the 12th step ("Having had a spiritual experience as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs") I reached out to them directly. Heck, I'll reach out directly to you. My time that I used to spend on my pornography addiction added up to perhaps an hour or two a week on average (as a busy person I didn't have a lot of time to edge for hours FWIW). I'm spending a lot more than that in my recovery, but I have years of addiction to make up!

    As far as groups go, I am now an active member with PAA, which I encourage you to check out. The forum they host is straight out of 2005, so I find it better to interact and help others here. Look for a message from me.
     
  7. Jzclo

    Jzclo Fapstronaut

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    Less screen time will help, even though I am having the same trouble I find that being somewhere public like a living room rather than your bedroom is better, and positioning your phone/ laptop somewhere people can see it when they enter your room. I find these things effective. Hopefully this helps.
     
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