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Relapsed with M. Need tips on how to abstain

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by AJ777, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. Jan 13, 2021 #1
    AJ777

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    M. seems to be a completely different beast than P.
    Already decided a while ago with certainty I want to hardmode for life until (maybe/eventually) I meet a girl/wife.
    But its fucking hard to do. Unlike P., M. Is even easier (obv) to quickly access and do to get that quick little high feeling and release of dopamine and endorphins.
    Im currently 60 days (or will be later today) sober from P. and have experienced very few temptations to watch it within that time; but im scared my gradual increase in M. might eventually cause me to slip up again with P. which I DO NOT want to happen.
    This is what my M. Sober streaks are currently looking like, on average:
    7 days
    11 days
    8 days
    3 days
    13 days
    Etc.

    To combat it, I've been using similar methods as I did to combat P. such as improving my spirituality (Christian/Seeking God/Praying etc.) Which did help for P. But doesnt quite seem to be as much yet for M.
    Also lately I've been losing some of my self discipline and motivation and I need to pull my head out of the ground and focus up especially because I have a college class that just started.
     
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  2. Jan 13, 2021 #2
    Dexter Moran

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    Hi AJ,
    please clarify something. You write that your "gradual increase in M" may cause you to slip up again with "P. " AJ are you masturbating without viewing porn?
    That's the meaning I'm taking from your post. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I hope I am. For your sake AJ!
     
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  3. Jan 13, 2021 #3
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    I’m having the same issue as you. I’ll be watching this thread
     
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  4. Jan 13, 2021 #4
    AJ777

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    Yes, I am M. without P. I havent watched P. in 60+ days, and hopefully that number keeps increasing.
    I also do not fantasize or think dirty thoughts when I M.
     
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  5. Jan 14, 2021 #5
    Saitama1000

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    You are still training you brain get high on Dopamine while M. Soon your craving will lead you to P. The Goal is to avoid P&M for 90 days at least.
     
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  6. Jan 14, 2021 #6
    TheForsakeen

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    lol then how do you get an erection then? i am not being an ass here just genuinely curious.
     
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  7. Jan 14, 2021 #7
    Dexter Moran

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    Hi AJ,
    with the best will in the world you are deceiving yourself. You are getting a dopamine rush from ejaculating. Your body is already craving this 'hit.' You will require ever increasing stimuli to achieve organism. This is how the descent into addiction and depravity happens.
    If you think that you can not become ensnared consider this. Samson was the strongest man in the bible. Yet his downfall came about because of deviant sexual behaviour.Yet, he did not have to contend with the stealth bomber that is the internet!
    Take care my friend!
     
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  8. Jan 14, 2021 #8
    AJ777

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    Idk... horniness... I can be aroused (as I would think any other male human being could) simply just thinking about the act of M. itself or by going a period of time without PMO and the building sexual tension that results from that. Back when I was more heavily addicted to PMO i would fantasize and think dirty thoughts on the rare occasions where porn wasnt involved.... but since these 60+ days porn free I havent once thought an impure thought (as far as i can recall, anyway) during masturbation. Most of the time its just to get that quick release and ease the tension.

    Yes, I am aware that M. alone is also harmful and trust me I have been trying to abstain from it for a long time... but thanks for the post im just going to keep trying. Onward to a life free of PMO.
     
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  9. Jan 14, 2021 #9
    TheForsakeen

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    since he does not have a girlfriend there isn't really anything wrong with M, going by your argument the simple act or ejaculating is wrong then by association so is all form of sex, in truth everything done in excess can be damaging; this site at it core is about stopping porn and improving your social and sexual life not becoming a monk.
    And OP i am sorry but there is no such thing as a sexual act that is not "dirty"(as defined by strict morality or religion i presume) unless you use vi%gr%.
     
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