Religion can be effective in quitting.

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  1. For those who are religious to a degree or at least do have a belief in a God, any god, I know of one thing that actually helped me stay off matsurbating for one month. I made a pact with god and I swore with my life that I would not masturbate to completion for one month. With that fear I actually made it a month.

    I knew I wouldn’t be able to go the whole month without occasionally looking at some porn or touching myself, so I made clear my intention was completion. It does work if you have the fear of God.
     
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  2. No it doesn't!!!

    There is no fear in love; instead, perfect love drives out fear, because fear involves punishment. So the one who fears is not complete in love. - 1 John 4:18

    If you fear God you cannot love. So you're saying the only way we can is be clean is by not loving people?

    Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. - 1 John 4:8

    So you're saying all Christians should become athiests if they want to not masturbate? According to 1 John 4 if you do not love people you do not know God.
     
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  3. Hros

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    Just like no two reboots are the same, so are different peoples' connections to God. Two people could both be fearful of God, and both could try to make pacts with Him, but only one might be able to keep his end of the pact.
    There are a lot of factors as to why some people find these pacts help them and some don't.
     
  4. It did for me. And I just began today with a promise to god for one month.
     
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  5. Hros

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    Good for you. I wish you the best of luck.
     
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    I am curious, what is the religion OP is referring to?
     
  7. Hros

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    Wow. According to you, Christian spirituality is so different from Judaism. In Judaism, both fear and love are necessary for a relationship with God.
     
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  9. Try to calm yourself. I’m not saying any of the things you mentioned. I’m saying if you’re desperate to get off of madturbation and pornography, making an oath with a God you believe has supreme power can be effective.
     
  10. TruChange

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    I'm not religious but lust and masturbation have been declared evil in ancient texts... for thousands of years!

    There's a reason for that.

    Whatever works for you OP. Keeping going!
     
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  11. BestVersionToday

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    You don't know Christianity, at all. You cherry pick the verses you like and disregard the verses you don't like. Why does the good take precedence over the bad? It doesn't. You need to view Christianity as a whole. Zoom out.

    Christianity and God is all about fear and punishment. Without fear and reward their is no control.

    "I have come not to bring peace, but a sword" Jesus
     
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  12. So you get mad at him for cherry picking verses and then you go and likewise cherry pick a verse and quote it out of context?! lol

    Man this site is just too good. :emoji_laughing:
     
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    I didn't get mad a him, and how was it out of context?

    Jesus went on to say "Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘A man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…" (and on to say parent against their kids, basically tearing families apart.

    This book may explain it better than I can. https://www.amazon.com/God-Most-Unp...454918322/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 I have not read this book. God is all about fear and punishment to me, that's why I gave him a good kick up the ass and educated myself on truth and fact over fiction.
     
  14. It was taken out of context by removing it from the entire Chapter. In preceding verses Jesus is giving them a mission to go out and preach the Gospel, but to not be niave in thinking everyone will accept it or that they will see peace instead of persecution for the message He was bringing. He knew His message of love, especially love for your enemy, would not be accepted by the Jewish people under Roman yoke, and in fact it would cut families in half like a sword.

    Love is divisive and if you don't accept that then you need to open a history book. Nothing will get you killed quicker than advocating people love their enemies/persecutors

    Jesus Christ- murdered
    Gandhi - murdered
    Dr. King - murdered

    There are plenty more if we want to bother looking them up.

    Preaching love, while a peaceful action, doesn't bring peace.
     
  15. That's good but whenever you talk about religion you seem to end up getting mad. If you don't get mad why do you end up using emotional language?
     
  16. BestVersionToday

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    My apologies if it comes across that way, there probably is a bit of, I don't know what word to use but some type of negativity and mild anger towards Christianity. I'm actually trying to help believe it or not, I don't want people thinking they will go to hell for fapping and porn. I also don't think Christianity is good for the self esteem. It's in my nature to want to help people but maybe I do need to change my delivery sometimes. Having said that I have to let go and accept that I can't change the world. Christianity will go on, it's huge but it will die off over the next 300-500 years, I can tell you that with absolute certainty. Problem is the Christians of today will teach it to their kids and then they may pass it on to their kids. It was meant to be that way. "Give me your child for the first 7 years and I will have them for life", is how it works. I use to fear Christianity, I use to come here and on youtube and write things about Christianity and then fear God was going to punish me. Now its a non issue. My atheism and certainty only grows stronger. I may do a send off thread giving Christianity and religion a good kick up the bum but I'm not sure. I know some people get something out of it like a drug addict thinks they are benefiting from drugs, but the truth is it harms more than it helps. It's a weakness and a crutch. Tell me, what do you do when you can't turn to God? Just some food for thought.
     
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  17. Hros

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    I'm not Christian, but what do you mean? When can you not turn to God?
     
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  19. BestVersionToday

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    Come on princess, what sins are you talking about? What have we done wrong?
     
  20. Gods_princess

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    Everything that God has defined as sin in the Bible (look at the 10 commands). Watching porn and masturbating is also a sin because God has intended Sex to be a beautiful present for marriage.
     
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