Religion VS. true Christianity

The rapture is always coming soon.

Like Dr.Dre's Detox album.

Anytime now.

 

Christianity is one of many frameworks people use to know this concept called "God"

Getting to Christ consciousness is to give up carnal desire & come to peace with your higher-self ascending the default network mind.

Also on your 7 year tribulation here's a following quote:

Revelation 13:5 it says that he will make war against the saints for 42 months. Then in Revelation 12:5-6 it says that the dragon made war against the woman Israel for 1,260 days; that’s also three and a half years. All these passages are describing the length of the time of the great tribulation.

According to https://www.endtime.com/ask-irvin/seven-year-tribulation/

 

Nah I'm not new-age lol. Nor did I mean ascending above God, I said ascending past the carnal nature/default mode network. Please don't misconstrue what I say. I know what the gospels say however, I've come to peace with the fact that they are flawed & imperfect. They are man's words trying to see their vision of God. For example the gospels say Emmanuel meaning God with us was to be a Nazarene because of bible prophecy however, the scriptures make no such claim. And be aware the people who determined which books got in the christian bible was just a Roman meeting. There's 50 gospels not in the bible. What was put in was determined by Constantine whom was a sun worshiper. Most scholars agree that Matthew, Mark, Luke, & John did not write any of the gospels rather the state/church later added those names on there to increase credibility. Despite the fact these documents were created decades after the supposed lifetime of Christ in fact the gap is large with the lifespan at the time we can be sure that the gospels aren't eye-witness accounts. Nevertheless there's some good teaching in there & some bad teachings. One of the bad ones being "Take no thought for the morrow." obviously if we took that to it's logical extreme christian's would screw themselves. Anyway like my dad always said eat the meat, spit out the bone.

(probably made some mistakes in this, I'm still learning & researching all of this & don't have all my thoughts sorted out on this.)

 

If it's not about denominations why specify a version of the bible published for the Church of England during the English reformation?

From the wiki: "James gave the translators instructions intended to ensure that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology of, and reflect the episcopal structure of, the Church of England and its belief in an ordained clergy.[8] The translation was done by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England."

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Erasmus' translation was truer to the original manuscripts than the KJV. Many of the puritans and non-conformists held to it illegally.

Edit: I'm talking rubbish, for one that, they used the Geneva bible, for one that translation would have been German or something not English. How stupid of me! Still the KJV is a bad translation.

 

This is incorrect. Although we cannot be saved AT ALL without grace, You are not saved from spiritual death from God’s grace alone. You are also required to do good works, because that’s what faith is. God promised salvation when we follow his commandments and do our part. When you sit around until God saves you, you’re treating God as a servant rather than the most powerful being we know. God is not a god of force; he won’t forcibly save you if you don’t have the energy and desire to do your part of the covenant.

 

You are very wrong! Have you ever read the book of Romans? I recommend you go through the whole book to understand it fully.

Romans 4:1-3 ESV: What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”

Jesus rules by serving us, you dummy! He justifies us before God by taking our punishment and giving (imputing) his righteousness to us, so our status before God is 100% clean, perfect, pure, good and complete! What about obedience then? He gives us the holy sprit. He, the spirit, changes our nature and slowly transforms us to be more like Jesus and he bends our desires towards honouring, obeying and serving him and loving others!

God chooses us before the foundation of the Earth, not because anything in us but because of his own love. Salvation is entirely of the Lord. 10000%. Natural man can in theory, perhaps, but would never out of his own free will choose God or to do good (to honour God).

 

Lol, preaching Christianity and love in the same post as calling someone a dummy. Oof, the irony.

Anyway, how am I wrong? Your scripture debunked literally nothing that I said.

And the Holy Spirit doesn’t change us magically. The Spirit changes only if we allow him to.

As I said, God is not a god of force. So, if anything, you actually solidified my point.

 

1. Dummy! Hehe!
2. How so?
3. So you are more powerful than God?
4. Yes, you said he is not a God of force. I am refuting that point. Read ephesians chapter 1 for evidence. Here's a sample:

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.

Romans also covers that topic.

 

1. Very mature. Since you’re in a Bible-bashing mood right now, remember what Jesus said about hypocrites in the Bible?

2. Because, you stated that Jesus serves us. How does someone serve us and demand us at the same time?

3. Nope. But God is bound by promises and covenants that He makes, and one of those were of free agency. We get to choose to either follow Him, or to be lured by the devil into an endless abyss of misery and sin. Free agency was the only way we can learn for ourselves right from wrong, and that’s why Christ was provided for us.

4. Once again, that scripture does absolutely zero in refuting my point. It says we are predestined to be CHILDREN of God, as in spiritual children of God. This does not mean we are predestined to FOLLOW him.

 

"You are also required to do good works"

What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”

Firstly the ESV is a literal translation.
"For if Abraham was justified by works" <- This statement must either be be true or false.

If this "You are also required to do good works" is true then "Abraham was justified by works" is true in this case.

If that statement is true then it follows that:
"he has something to boast about"

The context of the situation is before God because you are doing these works either before or as an offering to God.
"For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God"

The text denies that he can boast before God.
Therefore he cannot be justified by works as the text declares,
therefore you are wrong when you say that "You are also required to do good works".

 

This states that if he was judged by his works ALONE. No one will be saved if they were judged by their works alone. This doesn’t mean that people can sit around and be lazy, and still be saved from spiritual death.

 

1. Dummy!

1.1. The hypercrits were white-washed tombs thinking that they have some intrinsic righteousness but it was only their outward appearance. I have nothing. My heart is an evil thing that has been awakened by the holy spirit. All the good loving and kind, God-honouring things in me are from him. Also don't misunderstand my intentions, I could be doing something useful right now but I'm trying to help your eternal soul. Besides, so what if I'm a hypocrite? I am trying to help you look to Christ, not me!

2. By dying on the cross. By descending from the unfathomable heights of glory in heaven to teach us and help us. He does not need men, but the king loves them and helps (serves) them even to death on the cross! Interestingly, the cross also demands a response of repentance and faith. A perfect example of it in action. He dies (serving us), we respond (serving him). Beautiful!

3. Yes, we have free will. But natural man's heart is only evil. We may in theory be able to choose him but would never want to, without the holy spirit.

"The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Genesis 6:5

Also get people making weird noises and rolling on the floor out of your head when I talk about the holy spirit. For one, one of the fruits of the spirit is self control. Additionally, God is not a God of confusion.

4. Sigh... Read the rest of Ephesians...
It talks about believers being children/sons/heirs in the family of God. Ephesians 2 ties it together nicely.
"To the saints who are in Ephesus, and are faithful in Christ Jesus:"

When he says "we", he is talking about himself and the people he is writing to. They are the children of God. And he is undoubtedly a saint, along with the people he is addressing.

 

Philippians 3
"Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith"

The context of everything is his obedience to the law and his Jewish credentials, though here he expands it to all things you could imagine, even infinite euphoria outside of Christ. Here he explicitly declares that he has contributed nothing to his righteousness before God. It is all of the Lord. It's a great chapter to explore.

 

1.1: I know Christ. I’ve had a relationship with Him for years. I served Him and I will still continue to. I do not need your help in knowing Him, especially from someone who, just likes earlier, called me by a name in which Christ has never once done.

2: You just disproved your own argument about Christ being just a servant. You even backed my first post, which says that God isn’t there solely to serve us. Because, even as you said, God also demands from us. That’s where His commandments come from. So, what even is your point?

3: you also disproved your original argument found here:

4: as this was also disproven by you, of all people, I believe this isn’t worthy of a response.

 

1. I don't know your heart, but I think by your theology, you are excluding yourself from his grace and I worry for your soul.

2. We must be misunderstanding each other a bit here, your right that he is not solely ruling to serve us, but he did descend for that purpose and continues to be with us and for us.

Mathew 20: 28 "even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."

3. and 4. Yeah, we are dealing with tough concepts about God's nature that go beyond our fragile mind. I cannot deny scripture which declares that he predestined us, so I may be wrong about us having some shadow of completely corrupt free will. It was Martin Luther and Agustin of Hippo who coined this idea, whom I trust to be wise on many spiritual matters.

Also consider that time is part of creation and so does not constrain God, which creates many complexities including, the possibility of simultaneous predestination and free will. Anyway, I am not too worried about failing to convince you of this idea since it is not vital for salvation.

 

Faith is work, which is also what I stated in my first post (Hebrews 11:1), so I don’t know what you’re arguing here?