Retention and depression

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Hi its me 2020, Oct 11, 2019.

  1. Hi its me 2020

    Hi its me 2020 New Fapstronaut

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    Hi guys I'm trying to practise retention as well as quitting porn, but I've noticed I feel down on longer streaks and when I have released (without porn) I feel relief and happier instead of the other way around, is this normal? Or has anyone experienced this?
     
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  2. Demodectic

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    Im not sure because i cant seem to make it past day 7. Twice so far I have failed prior to day 7. I am on Day 6 today and I feel like shit. I paid a roofer to fix my leaking roof and now its leaking even worse after I paid him and he is ignoring my phone calls so I am so angry at myself for trusting this stranger. And its raining like crazy today so i cant even get up on the roof to place a blue tarp.

    Sp far the benefits of NoFap are zero for me. And i feel more stupid than usual also. We shall see, Yes I am very depressed, I have zero male friends, zero female friends and the prospect of dating a woman is as far away as the moon for me. I am also without a job and i feel like a total loser. Hopefully things get better soon.
     
  3. Mike9210

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    Those are the withdrawal symptoms. You have to be patient, they will go away.
     
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  4. Jack1211

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    Seed retention means literally not ejaculating/orgasming, which mean that you could have sex and mastrubate to porn as long as you don't ejaculate/orgasm, and if you are worried about losing superpowers, beliave me you could do what you want and the powers will remain, ask me because i am on day 74 now
     
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  5. ment

    ment New Fapstronaut

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    please how do i make the horny feelings go away???
    My mind is willing but the body is demanding
     
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  6. Mike9210

    Mike9210 Fapstronaut

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    Idle hands is the devil's workshop. That pretty much says it all.
     
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  7. Captain!

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    Cultivate your mind brute force is not enough, avoid triggers and daily read articles about the harm of mastterbation and porn, i repeat daily, for so many years your brain is soaked by lust thats why you developed compulsion to orgasm and highs for dopamine, its like pavlovian conditioning. But what you will do is counter the brainwashing the porn that did this to your subconcious level and replace that with rebooting knowledges for it to act as firewall for everytime the temptation demon come, addiction is systematic in its ways of slaving a person thats why you need to deal with it professionally and carefully.
     
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  8. the alpha project

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    I am past sixty days now. The last memory of depression I have is about the start of this current streak. One thing I think makes a difference is what else a person is doing. I have also cut out all social media and daily news sites. Almost zero alcohol or pot. Increased meditation and yoga. Increased training in the gym. Journal everyday. Identify things in life I want to change and take steps to change it. One thing I can say for sure, pmo only made depression worse.
     
  9. Exit the Matrix

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    I think that is the other way around. You can have sex during seed retention and are allowed to orgasm, but not ejaculate.
     
  10. Hold it in

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    Keep moving guys. Being stationary makes any depression worse, at least I've found that moving is like my anti depressant
     
  11. SuperPowers

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    Yeah why do you think people are addicted to porn and sex? Because its like a drug, it makes you feel better, at least have sex if you must, but its like a drug, you get a high and then you feel worse, its not worth it, yet millions can't work it out. Sure, you feel good for a little but then you feel worse having fapped to porn.

    You fap to porn? I heard you recommending this a few times and I don't think its good advice man, I can't do it, I have to bust after M to P, I may stop but later I go back and ejaculate. It increases hunger and there is the chaser effect to consider and the other thing is you get in the habit of fapping again and watching porn, nah man, do everyone a favor and stop recommending such rubbish on a site filled with porn addicts. Now tell me, you masturbate to porn? How often?
     
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  12. Jack1211

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    Yep i do mastrubate to porn everyday but i don't ejaculate exept for once a month. And no more than one orgasm a month.
    If you are addicted to over orgasming to porn it has the same effect of being addicted to over orgasming to sex,people should use logic here and not emotions and the crap we have been told about mastrubation or sex or porn or sexuality in general... Bro even in ancinet civilizations there were nude statious everywhere and no one cares that much because they weren't thiristy or addicted like people of today and these ancinet people mastrubated and had sex reguraly and created sexual arts and images, moderation is the key, moderation and sexual transumatation is the cure here not no pmo! Which is considered extremenism to the core.
     
  13. SuperPowers

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    You having me on? How the fuck do you do it bro? I've tried, it feels like I need a release like I need to urinate, its like a need, it its just a quick one maybe, but i'm not strong enough. How long are you fapping for? By the way, you stay addicted to the porn but yeah you still get benefits of semen retention but not the full benefits. Nowhere near.
     
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  14. Jack1211

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    I started mastrubation when i was 5 years old and it really made me unique than other kids at school i even had high energy and high dgrees because of it, but everything changed when i started doing it so much to a dgree that i do it like 5 times a day yep, but now i do it once a day (without orgasm) and i orgasm only once in a while maybe once every 1-3 months, and i could control it very well and all my childhood creative powers returned to me, and you know something? I actually look at porn like a normal ordinary thing not so *wow* for me, i am not addicted at all even though i watch it everyday, its just like watching a tv program or a movie.
     
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  15. SuperPowers

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    I laughed out loud, that was great! But you more than likely are addicted, try go 7 days or 30 days, then you'll know for sure, but look if you don't see it as a problem then I guess you can do it. For me I don't think its good but in my own experience its losing the semen that's the bigger problem. You like hijabi's in heels :cool::) ?
     
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  16. Jack1211

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    Not at all, i am into blondes, i find women with the psycho-funny sterotype like that of margot robbi a big turn on for me, she is not bad in appearness too.

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  17. SuperPowers

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    That Margot chick does seem very attractive I definitely see something her.

    Feel free to ignore this, I understand but I was asking how long you spend fapping not how long have you been fapping as in years but as in time spent fapping eg 10 minutes, 30 minutes, because I can probably do it for a short amount of time but if I keep going I have to ejaculate if not then I go back to it later and ejaculate.
     
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  18. Jack1211

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    اقدر اقعد ساعة تقريبا احيانا بفرك زبي واحيانا بفرك حلماتي واحيانا بالاثنين معا

    I could stay for an hour by milking my penis sometimes and playing with my nipples sometimes or both.
     
  19. SuperPowers

    SuperPowers Fapstronaut

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    Holly fuck, how? Give me a tip

    BTW, I'm not Arab brah, I just like Arab hijabi's, especially in open toed heels with nail polish preferably :cool::cool:;)
     
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  20. Jack1211

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    Just focus on not spilling your seed and try to practicing it everyday also what i find helpful is a skill called the "void meditation" which is simply *[controling your own thoughts by your own will now and here*] , there is millions of methods of the void meditation just chose one and stick with it every single day quiting a day could get you back to point zero!! :-

    Method 1 - sit with eyes open and focus on an any object on the wall it could be an picture of your loved once, and put all your focus and energy on that image, and forget about any thoughts or sounds inside or outside your mind infact forget about anything alse exept for the picture.

    Method 2 - sit with eyes closed and focus on the darkness inside your body and forget about any thought or sound inside your head and forget about anything alse.


    The void meditation is what spongebob did to learn about fancy food in an old episode where squeedward's friend went to crasty crab to know about job and career in life. When sqeedward asked to empty his mind of everything except fancy food and breathing.

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    But anyway are you into politican women and strongwomen?
     
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