I've read that for guys who have decades of PMO damage to undo (which is me), and go on semen retention as part of recovery, that gains are slow to come until 18 months and then things start to unlock. Can anyone here confirm or deny? By "gains" meaning, noticeable improvements in physique from working out, less social anxiety, more appeal to / attention from women, more frequent / stronger erections, attracting better / more beautiful people and situations into your life, etc. FWIW I'm into my 15th month now. I have seen some progress in all of the above but it's not like the floodgates have really opened in any of them. Maybe it doesn't work that way? What I can say is I never thought I could even make it this long and while the situation wasn't completely by my choice and won't be resolved any time soon, the prospect of another 3 months or more doesn't fill me with depression like it would have a year ago. I've started to realize if I don't bust once or twice a week I won't die and while what I'm doing is rare, I no longer feel like a freak for doing it. So there's that. Cheers all.