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Rough/degrading pornography

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. There is a lot of pornography from Europe and Russia that is ever more degrading, and I'm surprised that the companies get girls to do it.
    My brain is trying to tell me that it is sometimes ok and that the girls don't mind, so any contributions would be appreciated. I certainly know that watching any pornography is not productive.
     
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  2. Sport330

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    I suspect that the girls have little self respect from maybe a bad childhood or some other trauma they have experienced, maybe even abused when younger, they don’t know any different.
     
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  3. I think you can see it on their faces that they don't like it. Many of those Eastern Europeans and Russians look like hollowed out people. They're desperate for money and have come to a point where they'll do anything for it.

    Combine the desire for money, along with drugs, and alcohol and it's not too hard to see how they end up in those awful scenes.

    I watched one video where the petite gal was grimacing in pain as three men pounded away on her. The whole scene from beginning to end she looked like she was some sort of POW devoid of life. In my sick mind at the time I tried looking for more videos of her but found that she didn't make anymore after that one sex scene. I can understand why.
     
  4. A) Many of the girls in porn are either prostitutes, or trafficked (sex slaves), so they're not always there of their own will.
    B) There was a study showing that married men who practice BDSM are 6-7x as likely to deliberately murder their wives, so it's not good or healthy.
     
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  5. I heard of one scam going on overseas where women are promised modeling jobs or jobs as dancers in Europe, West or East. They get to the country they’re sold on and end up in brothels or on porn sets and have no money to get back home and no options to get out of the trap they’ve fallen into. So sad. I no longer want to be part of such a disgusting industry.
     
  6. countitjoy5

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    This is worst kind of pornography because you are hardwiring your brain to enjoy your own and others degradation. It distorts the way you look at yourself and women. It should terrify and repulse you. If you reboot long enough you will become sick at the thought that you ever lusted after it. We are made in the image of God - pornography seeks to destroy that
     
  7. samnf1990

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    Using this type o pornography should be a wakeup call that your pmo use has progressed beyond a natural impulse to seek sexual stimulation. I assume that you would not want to treat women the way that you see them treated in such scenes. If you do, then the escalation has gone way too far. P is fundamentally flawed as a way of achieving sexual fulfilment, as it does not make you feel loved, wanted or respected. The hing missing from 'vanilla' porn that caused you to escalate and seek out this kind of material is not the thing that you find in extreme porn. The thing missing is being made to feel loved, wanted and respected. You can only get this from a relationship. Women do not want to be treated the way you see them treated in extreme P. Cut it out of your life (all P if you can) and seek a partner with whom you can build a loving relationship, both sexually and romantically.
     
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  8. Thanks. Strange that this escalation has happened with starting nofap, and I imagine there is a connection. Onwards..
     
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  9. Thanks for the replies. Just to be clear, I haven't gone on the dark web and downloaded extreme and illegal stuff, I have just viewed what would be under the 'rough' category on many sites.
    However I don't agree with that and don't want to do it.
    There have been increasing flashes of beauty in my initial attempts at nofap, so there is hope..
     
  10. samnf1990

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    You don't need to go to the dark web to see shit that goes against your moral intuitions and takes you out of your comfort zone. A lot of what has been normalised in mainstream porn is problematic enough, and the extreme sections of these mainstream sites show plenty of things that I wouldn't dream about requesting or expecting a partner to be willing to do. Don't let the normalisation of something you know to be bad become an excuse to engage in it yourself.
     
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    This is a necessary and relevant post....
    Because reading posts like this confirms my intention to quit this thing forever
     
  12. Ra's Al Ghul

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    Yeah, i have read similar stories about trafficked women, and some of the first thing that happens when first captured is that they are beaten and raped by multiple pimps. Maybe to break their will first?
     
  13. I've found it to be when it comes to porn stars as to why they do porn, it's a variety of reasons. For some it's what they want to do, some feel their financial circumstances force them into it, some are coerced into it and some are trafficked into it. Just like there isn't only one reason why people look at porn, there's just isn't only one reason why people do porn. A myth that is spread by a number anti-porn campaigners is girls who do porn come from terrible families and have no education. It is true for some girls but not all. Some pornstars grew up in loving families and some are highly educated. People are complicated and we shouldn't simplify them.

    The thing that gets me is the people on here who hate pornstars. There would be no pornstars without porn consumers! You're no better than them, you're just as bad as them!


    Anyway here's a good video by a former pornstar that gives a balanced overview of the industry.
    Might contain trigger so be careful if you watch it.
     
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  14. Quite a balanced view. I guess I need to remind myself that regardless of motivation, even if a girl is totally fine with doing it there is no positive to me watching it.
     
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  15. I watched that video a while back and I was surprised to learn that these porn producers recruit girls when they’re still underage. I think that’s terrible.
     
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  16. Haddock

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    I've got two questions.

    a) About those who make poor girls from Europe or Russia coming to have such an awful "job". How do they earn money ? What's the business beyond that ? My question may look naive but most of the porn is freely available on the web right ?

    b) Why would such king of pornography be appealing ? I mean, being attracted by naked bodies is natural and this why we all start using porn at the beginning. But stuff which are more like torture shouldn't be attractive. I don't know for you guys but I think this is not the king of porn you watched in the first place. So why would we eventually like those king of videos ? Why would ours brains escalate to this ?
     
  17. Sounds plausible. Young people can be naive. I saw a scene once and the girl seemed a very nice and innocent person. Was at the time married to one of the 5 men having sex with her.
    I doubt if they stayed married.
     
  18. Best to do the things that you personally think are right for you.
     
  19. Yes you are right. I'm troubled by viewing things that I don't overall agree with. One of my challenges I guess.
     
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  20. I remember in a Louis Theroux documentary about the porn industry a porn producer said tube sites are killing the industry.

    This video might explain things:


    The podcast The Butterfly Effect with Jon Ronson talks about how the biggest porn site became what it is today. If I remember correctly the guy who made what it is today became bankrupt and to sell it.

    I'm mainly talking about the American industry. As for girls in Eastern Europe, it might be they're trafficked... Having said that they might not be and it's not out of the question American girls can be trafficked.

    I'd say curiosity is what draws people and eventually you get desensitised to what you see. It's a bit like watching horror movies or watching UFC, you are shocked by it at first but then you use to it.

    BTW I'm not defending it, just trying to explain why people watch it. Heaven help you if try to reenact it in real life!
     
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