Seeking Recommendations on How to Leverage Post Nut Clarity

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Octopath

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Hey,

First time posting here..

Some background…I’m a 36 y/o physically active male. Last week I relapsed after 34 days. I’ve only seriously tried abstaining from pmo twice in my life. The first time was about 2 years ago and I got to around 45 days. My goal is to stay committed to abstaining from pmo from here on out.

Two major reasons why I’m choosing to abstain from PMO is because I’m recently single (after a LTR), and need motivation to pursue the bs that comes along with dating & also because I have an unwanted fetish that I believe to be in large part porn induced.

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The concept of leveraging post nut clarity dawned on me when I felt the chaser effect after my most recent relapse. I experienced the chaser effect big time, and over the course of 5 days or so, I essentially caved and emptied my tank because I was super horny. Almost all of the masturbation etc. happened to my fetish porn.

With the thought of post nut clarity in mind, during my last session, I tried watching my fetish porn as soon as I busted, for the next 5 mins or so. I had never really done this before. But while doing so, I felt disgusted. It allowed me to look at the small details of what I was getting off to, and in that moment, helped me to solidify in my head, that I want nothing to do with this in real life.

All that said, I’d like to hear any recommendations people may have on how to leverage post nut clarity to help minimize (over time) the dopamine spikes associated with fetish porn or unwantedpmo compulsions.
 
The most helpful thing I ever did within the moment of post nut clarity, was to install a rigid set of blockers to aid me in the future. I totally understand, that blockers aren't everyones cup of tea. So, if that is not something you are interested in, I totally understand.

But I have researched and tried different blockers for weeks, because I always found loopholes making them basically useless. But after a few weeks, I found a combination of things, which work very well right now and to which I have not found any loophole yet. These blockers are a great help right now. I plan on uninstalling them at some point, but right now I'm really glad I have them. Maybe that is something for you?
 
I actually downloaded the blocker x app from the apple store late into my chaser effect. Problem is I can just turn it off and go on whatever site my compulsion takes me to. Also Reddit is a trap, and I don’t think it blocks explicit content when using the Reddit app (I may be wrong). I have deleted my reddit app and don’t go on other social media or rely on other social media for porn.

I’m interested to know more about your system and if it can be done with an iPhone.
 
I have figured out a decent blocker system for my iphone, with a few minor setbacks.

I use the the content restrictions under screen time and block all adult content, as well as some known sites that are not blocked by it. I also have disabled downloading apps, but you could also set it to just block age 17+ if you want to block only reddit. downside to what i do is i have to remove the restrictions if i want to download or update apps.

I use the screen time password, which unfortunately is only 4 digits and easy to remember. I think best case is to have a friend set it, but I usually just type in random numbers twice in a row and forget it within a few minutes. Screen time password can be disabled by logging into your apple account, so it is good to have a random password that’s hard to remember either written down or stored in an online lockbox with a time delay.
 
I started reading into my fetishes, be it academic articles or on blogs and forums. The more I read, the more I understood that many of the fetishes are a coping mechanism for issues.

This could be past trauma, or it could be uncomfortable new feelings like boredom or loneliness. Whatever it may be, I found it helpful to understand that many people go through these things and are looking for temporary distractions.

Of course this then means that over time these fetishes can be replaced with healthier tools for processing trauma or uncomfortable emotions.

But over time this perspective did help. I started to see a fetish I found in porn as less of a messed up thing that I associated with myself, and more of an escapism tool that doesn't work long term for me.
 
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Octopath said:
I’m interested to know more about your system and if it can be done with an iPhone.
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Sorry for the late reply, I missed your post somehow.

I was just talking to another person about this, so I'll just copy my message into here. Keep in mind, that I just summed my blockers up on a very, very basic level. If you are interested and wanna know more or need help with something, just ask! So, here we go:

Just downloading an app from the appstore won't be enough, because they have way to many loopholes making them basically useless on their own. You could either follow this excellent guide from another forum user or you could do what I did (which is different and more tailored towards my needs). My blocking regime is quite lengthy and may seem too complex for many people, but I find that only a complex blocking system is an effective blocking system.

So, I have two devices: My PC and an android phone.

Let's start with the phone.
1. Install the Pluckeye webbrowser. It will be the only browser you'll use for the time being. It block all photos and videos by default (also non-pornographic ones), but can be customised to your liking with a bit of trial and error. It also disables all in-app browsers in other apps. Ideally, either load a pre-configured pornfree profile or create your own at u.pluckeye.net.
2. Uninstall or deactivate all other browsers on your phone (Chrome, DuckDuckGo, ....), as well as other apps, which you don't want to use (reddit, youtube, twitch, ....).
3. Download the CleanBrowsing DNS app and either activate one of the free filters or buy a subscription to customise everything (that's what I do). Lock the settings with a lengthy random passcode and write it down in a .txt document.
4. Download the AppLock App and lock the Appstore, the phone settings and any apps, which are still installed and you don't want to use anymore. Give it another lengthy passcode and write it down.

For the PC:
1. Create another user profile on the PC. You need one normal user account (which will be your new everyday account) and one admin account. Use a randomly generated long password for the admin account and write it down in the .txt document.
2. In the windows hosts file, pin every single porn site you use (and ideally every single one you know) to 0.0.0.0. That way, it wil no longer load at all. This is a long process and will most likely consist of adding things as you go. Mine was crafted by hand over the course of a few years and now consits of around 2200 entries. Always block like this, to ensure the site will be blocked effectively:

0.0.0.0 siteyouwanttoblock.com
0.0.0.0 www.siteyouwanttoblock.com

3. Set up the CleanBrowsing DNS as your default DNS server and set it up so that Windows always uses that DNS server over any other. If you pay for CleanBrowsing (which I recommend) you can also do the host file thing in CleanBrowsing pretty much. But just do both to add another layer of protection. If you pay for it though, create a new email adress with the same password as your admin account, so that you can't let CleanBrowsing reset your password and then just disable stuff. You can also setup CleanBrowsing in your wifi, so that it works for every device in the network (consoles, smart TV, ....).

For both:
If you are done, go to lockbox.pluckeye.net and copy your passwords and passcodes into a new lockbox. It functions by a timer system, so you have to wait the specified number of days in order to access your passwords. No need for another person. Pluckeye was made with people trying to self-regulate in mind.

As I said, it takes A LOT of time to set this stuff up at first and you will most likely not set it up perfectly at first, but you'll tweak and add some things along the way. Over time your blockers will become more and more tailored to your needs. I pretty much perfected mine now and it works like a charm right now. Also, these blockers can be a total pain in the ass sometimes, but that's exactly the point.
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I don't think there is any way to leverage post nut clarity... after an ejaculation to PMO, your energy storage has become depleted. Your brain and body are not functioning at their best rate. Anything you write down at this time regarding ways to leverage post nut clarity is not going to contain the subtle essence of true, good thoughts.

Maybe a better route to take would be to abstain from PMO for a number of days. Then, on a day you are feeling especially good when on NoFap, write down some of your thoughts. I think this would be a better idea.

Might as well make your last ejaculation to porn your last ever ejaculation to porn. No need to think about post nut clarity anymore... The post nut clarity is actually just emptiness of mind, and a scattered mind, and a mind that has had its energy hallowed out
 
jcl1990 said:
I don't think there is any way to leverage post nut clarity... after an ejaculation to PMO, your energy storage has become depleted. Your brain and body are not functioning at their best rate. Anything you write down at this time regarding ways to leverage post nut clarity is not going to contain the subtle essence of true, good thoughts.

Maybe a better route to take would be to abstain from PMO for a number of days. Then, on a day you are feeling especially good when on NoFap, write down some of your thoughts. I think this would be a better idea.

Might as well make your last ejaculation to porn your last ever ejaculation to porn. No need to think about post nut clarity anymore... The post nut clarity is actually just emptiness of mind, and a scattered mind, and a mind that has had its energy hallowed out
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I don't know, I've had some epiphany moments right after PMO sessions. You reach rock bottom and the problems in your life are no longer hidden with the highs of PMO suddenly gone. Nothing tells me I need to be more social than relapsing on a Saturday night...

But I agree reflecting on your thoughts whenever you're feeling better is just as important. I think both can compliment each other.

I'm not sure if saying never again to PMO is as helpful as it sounds. Of course that would be ideal. But it's more likely that relapses will happen during the recovery process. If you accept it might happen, there's less shame and hopelessness feeling if it does.
 
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I don't know, I've had some epiphany moments right after PMO sessions. You reach rock bottom and the problems in your life are no longer hidden with the highs of PMO suddenly gone. Nothing tells me a need to be more social than relapsing on a Saturday night...

But I agree reflecting on your thoughts whenever you're feeling better is just as important. I think both can compliment each other.

I'm not sure if saying never again to PMO is as helpful as it sounds. Of course that would be ideal. But it's more likely that relapses will happen during the recovery process. If you accept it might happen, there's less shame and hopelessness feeling if it does.
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You've hit the nail on the head in my opinion. I agree with everything you said in this post.
 
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