Sex doesn't ACTUALLY feel that good !!

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Infinite spirit, Apr 23, 2019.

  1. Infinite spirit

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    One of the biggest harms of pornography is that it twists your view on sexuality. It makes you think that sex feels like a trip to other world!!. When you actually have sex(if you did have sex then you know ) that sex isn't that good!. You will be shocked..it's boring and not that pleasurable in comparison top pmo!. In sex ..The physical pleasure that you will feel in your penis is far less than masturbation..beacuse when you masturbate you can control the tightness and the grip on your penis and the speed..in sex you have a certain vagina with a fixed tightness which is way more soft than your monkey fapping death grip!. In sex you probably gonna have one person to have sex with..unlike porn when you can have sex with 100 woman in one fucking hour!. Your partner is more likely not going to be that perfect plastic goddess !..her teeth are not going to be all white and semetric!:D. Also ..sex requires more physical effort ..your whole body is at work..whreas in masturbation ..just your hand and you Michael!!.
    I think sexual desire and lust is one of the most important and mysterious phenomena in nature . It feels so good but it's never enough..we are forever chasing that orgasm. In fact..there will never be such thing as enough ..even if you have one zillion orgasm with one zillion different women ..You will ask for more. It drains us, we know.. yet we can't help but desire it. Don't think that when you become old ass man in his 80's that you finally gonna be done with sex ..the lust in your mind will stay just the same ..you will just grow tired of chasing nothingness .
    This is why I truly believe that overcoming sexual desire is nessciarly to achieving happiness in life..true happens is not in sex..its in overcoming this endless obsession .In fact ..sex brings misery if you have noticed..for some reason In the hell ..you feel kinda sad after sex which is the exact opposite of what you expected ..yet you keep falling at the same trap.!!
    It remindes me of an experience they have done on rats..the rats push the button and they get a hit of heroin.. those rats keep pushing the button until they overdose and die . I don't want to sound weird..but sex can literally kill you if you don't control it!!!.
    PS :by no means I overcame sex.. i understand all the things mentioned above..yet if you open my skull you will find nothing but sex in there.!
    To be continued ..
     
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  2. ZenAF

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    Jesus dude, you just asked for the opinion on prostitutes (which I can understand) and here you try to downplay sex?

    You're young man. Real young.. Too young to be at odds with sex.
    Sex can be so much better than PMO that you can't even imagine. Just because you had bad sex so far doesn't mean you need to give up.

    Also what's wrong with chasing something like sexual desire? I think what's wrong is to want a state of perfect balance. You can describe a moment as perfect, but something like perfection doesn't really exist. Everything is a work in progress, you most of all, you'll never be the perfect you, you just strive towards that. The universe is MOVEMENT not static.

    Also forget about achieving happiness in life. That's a bad goal. Happiness comes, happiness leaves. What's important is meaning. And meaning is acquired through shouldering as much responsibility for yourself and life around you as possible.
    Happiness is just some dopamine. Meaning is that feeling you get when you're totally absorbed in something (like sex) and forget the whole world around you, where you know you're exactly at the right place at the right time doing the right thing. That's not being happy, it goes way beyond that.
     
  3. Infinite spirit

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    Yes I'm fucking paradoxical I know..i know sex is not gonna bring me happiness but I keep chasing it anyways like an idiot.. I think we are programmed by evolution .
     
  4. HugoBoss

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    you're talking like a little kid.
    1) When you truly love someone you don't really care about his/her "semetric teeth" and the way he/she looks.
    2) Life isn't that beautiful either.
     
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  5. Infinite spirit

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    You didn't understand a single world from what I said.
     
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  6. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    I would only say one thing...

    It's your opinion, and your goddamn opinion only.

    And in my humble opinion, it is deeply flawed. But remember, that's just my opinion only.
     
  7. Infinite spirit

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    It's Deeply flawed ?!. What "it"?..and what do you mean "deeply flawed ".
     
  8. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    Your statement "sex is not as good as pmo" is flawed. Also you said "sex brings misery".
     
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  9. Infinite spirit

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    Well...i didn't just say "sex is not as good as pmo and goodbye". I compared them in many ways and I showed you how pmo wins at each point .
    As for "sex brings misery"..not exactly..what I mean is this " the desire for sex never STOPS no matter how much you have ..its like drininkg from the sea..the more you drink..your thirst will just increase.
     
  10. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    That's just your opinion. And I said so. Human mind can achieve many things, and controlling your desires is very possible. Like I said, it's your opinion mister. And I think I clearly understood what you meant.
     
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    I absolutely agree with this post. This was exactly what I experienced when I was having sex. Except for the following part:

    In fact, when I managed to orgasm, I was feeling like a bosss. I don't know if it gets more pleasurable if the partners are more experienced.
     
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  12. HugoBoss

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    If I didn't understand a single word then explain yourself..
    What is the point of this thread?
    First you were against porn and masturbation and now you're against sex.. what's next?
     
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  13. Infinite spirit

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    I'm not against sex. If you truly understand my message you should notice. Here is a summary:
    We are almost programmed by evolution to seek as much sex as possible. If we had the opportunity to have sex every single day with different women ..we will do it..even though we know it will fuck up our health. Sex drains us and disappoint us in the biggest picture possible. Yet we can't help but chase it like monkeys.
    In part two I will talk about sex being the essential force in nature and I hope things will be clear for you.
    Peace.
     
  14. HugoBoss

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    Where did you get this information from?
    Who the hell wants to have sex every single day?
    Why would having sex 3-4 times a week (for example) fuck our health?
    How can you get disappointed from having sex with a person you're attracted to?

    Can somebody answer to those questions? I need answers!!
     
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  15. Infinite spirit

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    YOU!. Tadaa!!.
    Because it drains your virya .unless you eat like hulk to recover from that.
    You are phrasing it in a deceiving way. My point about sex bringing misery instead of happiness is quite deep and almost "philosophical "..if you want to have a conversation with me about it you have to grow your intellect a liitle more..and I don't sense that in you yet.
     
  16. Infinite spirit

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    Its not trolling . Don't play with me or you shall regret:cool:.
    Pmo is easier...pmo is more novel..women in porn are the most beautiful ..vagina is less tight and flexible than hands.
    Answer me to these points .
     
  17. Spitfirewho

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    You sound really, really angry at a lot of things my friend. Try figuring that anger out and you may start to see some real progress.

    As someone who engaged in PMO for 20 years before having sex for the first time I can say sex feels a whole lot better than PMO. I dont just mean on my dick either. There is a lot more "feeling" to sex than just what's on your dick, vigina vs your hand. Its not about feeling any one things, its about a collection of feelings, emotions and physical that make the whole experience amazing. I grab her, touch her, lots of stuff to her. She grabs me, touches me, lots of stuff to me. Hell just standing in out kitchen making out, kissing her neck is a better "feeling" than PMO, even when it does not lead to sex, which with kids is a lot. But it still "feels" better tha sitting alone jerking off to a cold computer screen.

    Not to say there are not bad experiences in the sex I have had with my fiancee, the first 3 months were a lot of bad experiences. Even those experiences were better than PMO because I was figuring out reality vs the PMO simulation. We kept at it, she was patient and it's all amazingly better than PMO.

    I would suggest trying to find out why your so angry. Bad experience? No experience? I dont know but when you find someone worth the effort, real sex is better than 20 years of PMO every time.
     
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  18. need4realchg

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    Very deep post.

    I don’t think many will understand you because the programming and focus of us being here is on healthy sex drive with a commitment either to oneself or the partner.

    You are a libertine thinker in this sense, throwing off traditional expectations. But since you are slightly disconnected from the “slime” I wonder if you see yourself as an p addict?

    But I do see your point. You are comparing the control of ones sexual experience to the lack of control when you interact physically.

    From a perfectionist perspective ( ie the porn-enhanced glasses) you want perfection in visual , aromatic , physical , emotional , and sensual expectation.

    In that reality ( pmo/virtual) you always get what you pay for.

    So if the object is to control ones experience, In that sense pmo is better. You sound to me like you may enjoy control more than pmo though.

    Do you feel you obsess on other stuff or just the sexual ? I mean lots of rich guys do obsess on keeping themselves or their partners looking like they are in their peak.

    Real life guys have guts, balding, yellow teeth, debts,
    Real life girls have birthmarks, tattoos, and my personal pet peeve : fake ( hair, butt, boobs, eyelashes, ) etc.

    You remind me of the matrix scene with the chocolate cake. It’s fake, completely digitized but under the control of “porn-enhanced vision” it’s what addicts prefer.

    Am I reading your ideas the way you intended ?
     
  19. VictorYs

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    Are you mental?
    You're enjoying watching others having SEX and at the same time you're saying that SEX leads to mysery.
    Cases like this arent worth it.
     
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  20. HugoBoss

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    Me? Get the fuck off kido.
     
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