Sexualization of characters

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  1. dieprad

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    Do you think it is normal to sexualize modern cartoon characters? Yes, anime characters have long been sexualized because of their fan service, huge breasts (disgusting), and other factors. But what about the sexualization of another kind of animation?
     
  2. dieprad

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    I hate to think that someone will sexualize the characters of a children's cartoon about friendship and family. For example, there is a modern cartoon Onion. And even in his fandom, people sexualize boy characters, and also write improbable and disgusting fan fiction.
     
  3. gsherman100

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    in Children's cartoons absolutely not. Everything else is fair game in my book. Pepole should have 100 percent creative freedom. I also want to point out just because a character is sexualized doesn't mean it can't be a good character.

    One of the coolest female characters I've ever seen is the character Quiet in a Metal Gear Solid game I played years ago. She is EXTREMELY sexualized, she's a sniper, she doesn't speak, and wears a skimpy bikini with mesh leggings. You find out during the game she can't wear conventional clothing cause she breathes by some form photosynthesis through her skin. I think I recall a cutscene where she began to suffocate when someone covered her with a blanket or something, I can't remember the exact details. In cases like this I found the sexualized aspect of her character made her more interesting. I know it's not a cartoon exactly but it falls in the same issue I think.

    I think the whole topic of "Should characters be sexualized or not" works against creativity. People get so caught up in 'what' they want thier character to be they forget 'Who' they want thier character to be. The 'Who' is the most important part.

    But as far as kids cartoons go, no. I really don't think that shit belongs there at all.
     
  4. Meshuga

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    It's common for any kind of character, cartoon or otherwise, to be sexualized. Cartoons themselves have been sexualized pretty much as long as they've existed. Sometimes even by their original creators. Some, if you notice, are already sexualized by default. Others are made so through fan art. My Little Pony is a disturbing example.

    It makes some kind of sense. There's not a clean separation of childhood and adulthood. During that transition a person is sort of into kid stuff, but also gaining strong interest in sex. Coupled with the way we like to display sexuality in the West, which normalizes this type of thing, you end up with some disturbing combinations.

    Don't let it bother you. You won't find it unless you look for it.
     
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  5. calpoop

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    limitation breeds creativity
     
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  6. ThePeakWae

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    Yes, it's normal, but usually, it's only normal case the authors of said cartoon characters are already setting them up to be sexualized.

    MHA is a good example of this, Momo's cleavage and some Tsuyu moments are practically telling people on the web to take the characters and sexualize the crap out of them in fanarts.

    If it's a series like D Grayman or World Trigger, people on the web have 0 reason to sexualize the females unless they really are that cray cray about Shipping sex scenes, but even the author's respect for the female characters eventually reflects the way the people on the web will respect the female characters.
     
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  7. Why are huge breasts disgusting?

    What do you mean when you say "sexualizing characters/animation"?
     
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  8. AngrySard

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    I'm not one to object to a good pair of double d's, but to everything there's a limit. Plus, they're counted as a superstimulus, analogs to a supermassive forever-enduring dingdong.
     
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  9. Nothing involving a young audience should be sexualized, it breeds a generation of kids who are sexually depraved and lack morals.
     
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  10. E31

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    I love MGS! But thats probably the most ridiculous, male game designer explanation for unsuitable clothing on a female character ever :D
     
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  11. Now I'm just lost... are you talking about cartoon porn?

    Outside of (actual?) sexually explicit material... they're going to keep pushing the envelope, because people have literal mental issues, trauma, etc. revolving around sex and most have no other solutions that to feed their lust.

    1 in 5 boys, and 1 in 3 girls are going to be sexually assaulted before the age of 18. (https://laurenskids.org/awareness/about-faqs/facts-and-stats/)

    60 percent of students surveyed said they watch porn in order to learn more about sex and learn about gaps in their sexual education, even though 3/4 admitted porn creates unrealistic expectations. (National Union of Students, Student Opinion Survey 2014)

    93.2% of boys and 62.1% of girls have seen online pornography before age 18.
    (http://www.familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistics.html - accessed June 6, 2014).

    These are just some statistics around porn and sexual assault. We havent gotten into the amount of video games and entertainment (music/television) media that feeds lewd sexual content and reinforces sexual appetites.

    Mathematically, it's a losing game.

    I attended a well-known art school in Canada and there was a poster on the wall featuring hardcore gay pornography. When I brought it to the attention of my peers, they told me I was been "sex-negative" and "demonizing" porn.

    Whether or not I want to think it's normal doesn't matter. It is normal. And you're the odd one out for objective to what almost everyone else agrees with, tolerates, or affirms.

    These days, it seems everything needs to be more sexual.
    More raw.
    More uncontained.
    More unabashed.

    It's seems to be a losing game here in the west.
     
  12. AngrySard

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    What the hell? Is this the state of higher education?
     
  13. AngrySard

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    Well yes, the topic at hand is sexualization of cartoon characters, which often have exaggerated features, and when that is translated into porn, becomes a superstimulus.
     
  14. ThePeakWae

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    It's a big boundaries problem, school and sexual education dont mix too good.
     
  15. AngelofDarkness

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    In my opinion sexualizing fictional characters is both wrong and pointless, no matter which medium. What is the point of sexualizing characters other than making them into a sexual object for the reader/viewer? What's good about the character being a sexual object? They should be interesting and engaging because of their personality/actions, not because of their sexual-physical value, their value to be used for sexual gratification. This is what I find funny about pro-hoeing feminazis that claim it's 'empowering' to express their 'sexual freedom' and argue that a woman can be more than a sexual object and is not reduced to that. Yeah I can be a good person and also lie. Being a liar is bad and wrong, even if that's only one component of who I am. Why should being a good sperm depository object be one component of a person? Why should having a valuable body for sex be of any value, when it completely disregards the human and mental qualities of a person/character attached to the body? To me that's wrong and also just adds nothing of value. No interesting, well written character is dependent on their sexual value.
     
  16. Akbarmagnus

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    nazism was a man's world.
     
  17. AngelofDarkness

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    How dare you claim a word to belong to men, I am offended :mad:
     
  18. Meshuga

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    Sometimes it makes sense in the context of the narrative to emphasize a character's sexual qualities. The book "A Game of Thrones" used graphic incest to villainize some characters, for instance, and graphic rape to emphasize the stakes in the brutal universe it inhabits. Many narratives suggest rape, but pull away from details out of respect for the victim or disgust for the actual act. By refusing to look away, but forcing the reader to endure the moment in the same way the victim does, the author forces the reader to share the victim's trauma and emphasizes who the bad guys are, how much power they have, and why they need to be stopped. It is my understanding, though, that the show used some of these scenes in a more pornographic sense. It can do that because, while such an unflinching focus on the details of the scene shows the victim's trauma, it also shows the rapist's triumph and pleasure.

    The use of sexualized fictional characters, though, typically is strictly for the gratification of the consumer and contributes nothing to the narrative.

    The reason some feminists want to promote female sexualization is that they perceive that sexualization as historically used against women. They claim women's sexuality has always been divided into one of two categories; virginal, pure, "good," domestic, and marriageable, or promiscuous, corrupted, and something to be used and cast aside. They want to show that women can be both sexual and good. I think they are going about that goal all wrong, but they didn't ask me.
     
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