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Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by AlphaAlone, Aug 23, 2019.
Fine, go to escorts. See where that gets you.
Sounds like you fundamentally are unaware or disagree with the definition of “sex addict.”
Interestingly your confusion is part of the reason I think sex addiction and porn addiction are distinct threads.
Any addiction requires a suppression of choice —- nevertheless all addictions require some level of choosing.
the only way you can get addicted to escorts if you're rich or at least well off. that was his point. while porn and fappin, you can literally do every day 10x per day. it wont cost a thing or maybe some monthly $10 membership, which is nothing.
so yeah, addicting to sex with escorts is more of a one time thing or maybe once per month. i dont see an average guy doing it more than that unless he makes decent money. plus, it could be dangerous if you're in a country where it's illegal. an average guy probably just browses the ads but never follows up on it. it isn't as easy as browsing porn and fapping away.
Seeing an escort is a waste of money. If you do it once, you are likely to crave more and more and continue seeing one. That is what happened to me.
I think your reasoning assumes someone seeing escorts is making rational decisions.
sex addicts don’t do that. It’s not like they are just having a drink ; they feel it like they have to. They go again and again. They do it until they are broke. Or worse. Like a gambling addict.
You are also assuming it’s expensive. Again — not necessarily true. Maybe for you in the states but then your assumptions are incredibly limited. Sex can cost as cheap as 10$. How could you not get addicted ? In Germany, Holland,France , Italy you could have a 3 a day for less than 100.
in Latin American you can have threesomes for less than 100.
Again. You appear to make assumptions that don’t match reality.
The “average” guy goes to strip clubs but doesn’t have sex. Because for them you are right it is expensive. But they can go to any of the other options and bust a nut.
It most certainly is an addictive practice. But it’s never free. I think that’s the benefit of sex addiction to escorts versus porn addicts.
porn , because it’s free, is likely harder to leave. Paid sex has fare limits.
I encourage these two addictions to not be lumped together because they have very different strains of sex/emotional behavior.
interesting position. So because you see sex as a need— it cannot be an addiction?
I agree in part, the addiction is called “sex” addiction but it IS ALL about company. Companionship. Feeling desired. Control. Seduction. Fantasy. Repressed emotions, Etc.
The “sex”is assuredly a slice of a larger pizza of emotional dysfunction manifesting itself sexually.
I would not state I was in love with the hooker, yet it was pure lust. Yet what I state once you try it, you want to do it again, and again and again. With that money I should have spent it on other things but seeking a hooker resulted me in getting deeper into debt. I also noticed after the encounter at times I felt empty.
If you know you're going to feel ashamed and guilty, then don't see an escort. Simple
You never 100% know for sure its going to result in feeling bad. Most likely it will but your dick is willing to take the small odds and damage. I think most alcoholics and drug users have the same problem.
I have never been addicted to drugs, but I would advise a struggling user to always go cold turkey. There is no soft spooning possible not for someone who is addicted.
Same also applies for my own nasty addiction ofcourse. I just have to stop and reboot myself from this mess.
regardless of what moral code you believe in or even believe in anything or not, my reply is NO...
we are all here to get rid of our PMO addiction and during this process we will feel the loneliness, boredom, emotional turmoils, we miss sexual activities and so many tricks that our addiction brain will use to bring us back to the game...
but escorts and prostitutes??? absolutely not...you are not going to escape from one addiction to another, are you?
by doing this, you may manage your PMO but for sure, sex addiction and being obsessed to visit sex workers is a way bigger than what you bargained for...think about it brother...
Ehh, majority knows how they'll feel about it. But I agree, if you're on NoFap to get rid of your PMO addiction, and you want to see an escort because you're super horny, then that's just stupid. Just the thought of going to an escort will trigger you like crazy
Pmo and sex addiction are not the same.
Yes both can be very bad but its too simple to state that you will 100% sure be triggered into pmo by visiting a hooker once a while.
I know a few colleages that stopped watching porn and masturbation because it caused them big problems when making love to their wives. One problem we wankers tend to have is that we like to use a firm hard grip while doing M, but this causes problems because a womans vagina,hand or mouth can never exactly grip you the way you trained yourself with M. Unfortunalty there is no method to cure this condition without actually having sex.
I stopped doing P and M and hookers, but I don't see a problem if someone visits a hooker once a month whilst looking for a steady girlfriend which can take years for some men or never at all.
Many men can do this to keep themselves in a sexual balance, so its difficult to judge whats best for anonymous men here at nofap we dont know at all.
In my country some disabled men get goverment funding and assistance for them to have occasional paid sex, because it keeps them human since loving sex is not possible for them and they also deserve to feel the amazing touch and smell of a woman evens if its from a real woman of the streets.
still 100x better than your hand, and end up with ED and PE from all the pornography and fapping. but that's just me...
damn that grip part you mentioned brought back old memories when i started to develop weird fetishes throughout watching all sorts of porn, and nothing truly satisfied me in the end other than my hand. [email protected] hookers being the same as fapping. a real life smell, and touch of a woman vs your hand. gtfohere!!!!!!
which country are you in?
What is the difference between pornography and prostitute?
There’s really not much of a difference at all.
Even the very meaning and origin of the word ‘pornography’ tells the true story. Taken straight from the Encyclopaedia Britannica:
The word pornography, derived from the Greek porni (“prostitute”) and graphein (“to write”), was originally defined as any work of art or literature depicting the life of prostitutes.https://fightthenewdrug.org/porn-and-prostitution/
Also the article states: Research shows that men who go to prostitutes are twice as likely to have watched a porn film in the last year compared to the general population. It’s also not surprising that when these customers show up, many come ready with porn images in hand to show the women they’re exploiting what they want to do.
no quarrel with you in wanting to link them together but just to point out the nofap audience is uniquely skewed to porn users who wish to quit and to a smaller degree sex addicts. So here the sample of folks who will do both addictions or discontinue one while doing the other depends in large part on demographics and circumstances of the addict. In other words, it’s not safe to make an assumption on sex addiction just because you are familiar with porn addiction.
ultimately, it would be best to leave both addictions. Blending them into the “same thing” while ignoring they respond and are triggered differently does not help with recovery.
I learned that when I came to nofap...and again when I started to attend sex anonymous meetings.
Sex is a need that deserves to be met, to an extent, and meeting that need is not in itself, in all cases, evil, weak or tantamount to surrendering to an addiction. Porn addiction on the other hand seems to have little to do with sex, at least to me. It’s more about compulsion and boredom, and it can ruin your actual sex life and hurt your relationships. But it isn’t sex. Seeing a hooker can admittedly be a negative trigger but can also, for a man who no longer wants to be a virgin or has been lonely for a long time, “get it out of the way”. Porn addiction is awful, but sex in moderation is not, and maybe if you are too socially reserved to make sex happen without seeing a hooker then it can be a way (if NOT done incessantly, or not done as a betrayal of a relationship) to clear the obsession away. Sometimes sex is only sex, not the beginning or end of the world.
As someone who has been heavily addicted to seeing escorts for over a decade I would advise strongly against it.
I have no issue with it morally - in fact I think it's a lot more honest than pretending to like a girl for sex. However if you do become addicted (and it is VERY addictive) it will decimate both your wallet and self-esteem.
I wouldn't do it.
are you in the states? were you afraid to seek out one? also, how likely are you to get an STD? this applies to anyone who sought escorts out regularly. all this paranoia + the legal aspect of it, prevents me from seeing one.