Should internet porn be illegal?

[BobbyBrown567]

Thanks, mate!

The thing about government is we lack a personal relationship with it like we would with maybe family members or friends, so it’s easy to get someone in government who wouldn’t care about our freedoms (of course there are family/“friends” who fall in this category too, but it’s not as prevalent with respect to the average person). If you think about it, a family unit thrives on socialism (we have one or two breadwinners working for the entire family’s need), but a government won’t because we lack that common, personal bond that we feel obligated to retain.

The same can be said with censorship; parents can apply censors to get the best from their kids, or friends can do it; whatever. If the kids don’t like it, they can move out when they’re 18 or whatever. But when a government does it, not only can the family not control it, but the government, once again lacking that bond, can use it as a means of power and control. This point right here is why I say the government’s not your friend; the government’s there to enforce things that would otherwise be a disaster in a private system (such as justice). To tag along with that, the government shouldn’t need to do this, as we all have access to porn blockers and our own censors.

Yeah I definitely agree there, there is little to no relationship with governments, and I think because they deal with data and statistics etc, it takes away the sentimentality of problems. Like I could read all about, say, heroin addicts, but it wouldn't be the same as somebody taking me to go and talk to one and really getting that personal account of things. This I think is something governments should strive more to do and you're definitely right about the power stuff, I mean what is a government if it can't control it's people? I suppose the solution is to put people in place who will handle that power the best.

I don't know if you've heard of a guy called Michel Foucault but I think he'd be right up your street as he talks all about power and institutions etc.

 

[Goldenlion7892]

God yes I wish and have wished since I was in my teens that it was illegal. I now know that this will probably never happen though.

Sometimes I feel like if I had enough money I’d just fly over to one of those countries where it’s illegal and just live there for the rest of my life. I agree North Korea would not be worth it, all though sometimes after a relapse it almost seems like it is (am I right? Lol). However I would gladly live in Turkey or somewhere else in the Middle East if it meant no porn and maybe even perhaps less technology.

 

[MLMVSS]

I don't know if you've heard of a guy called Michel Foucault but I think he'd be right up your street as he talks all about power and institutions etc.

I haven’t heard of him, but I’ll definitely check him out.

 

[brfreedom]

It should be illegal or at least some explicit control to avoid material that go beyond boundaries.

 

[Silver36]

Nope.

That's the basic idea of free countries, do anything you desire as long as it dosen't hurt someone else.

And speaking from no experience, I think people should have a will to improve if they wanna. It must'nt be imposed.

 

[Silver36]

Also the amount of rape cases would skyrocket

 

[Deleted Account]

I was thinking about this the other day and thought this could be a good point for some discussion. I'm sure everyone on this site will have an opinion and I'd be very interested to read them! I thought I could get the ball rolling with my own views.

After some thought, I think I am leaning more towards the yes side, but not completely. I think free tube sites should be banned. Round the clock free access to more porn that you can imagine is certainly not healthy at all, and the fact there is no financial barrier I'm quite certain exacerbates matters. I think there should always be a fee to pay as I do believe this would heavily influence people to stop watching porn. As for paid access, again I'm leaning more towards the yes side. It is also very hard to enforce the age restrictions online too and I think teenage years are when most people start watching porn so cracking down on underage porn use I think is a must.

For me, I think porn should be legal but only sold in licensed shops as DVDs or magazines. This will a) ensure underage users can't have access, b) enforce the financial barrier c) it will limit the overall amount of porn use, for instance if a film costs say £10, I imagine customers would be likely to watch that for a while before buying another one, the ability to freely move between endless videos on the internet is definitely not healthy and d) I think a lot of people would be embarrassed to go in one of those shops (I know I would be) so that could act as another factor in deterring potential porn use.

What do you make of these points? What are your opinions? Let's get a discussion going!

No, but it should be regulated (don't know how that would work) but nonetheless I started watching P as a child--who effing knows what kind of damage I've inflicted upon myself

 

[Deleted Account]

Also the amount of rape cases would skyrocket

?????????

That is one hell of a slippery slope, man. People don't need porn to masturbate and the majority of human beings follow what we'd call the non-aggression principle. You can still be addicted to masturbating with porn being completely exempt from the equation.

This also assumes that everybody that is successful with staying away from porn, masturbation, and sex as a whole becomes, or has temptations to be come, a rapist.

 

[Gotham Outlaw]

?????????

That is one hell of a slippery slope, man. People don't need porn to masturbate and the majority of human beings follow what we'd call the non-aggression principle. You can still be addicted to masturbating with porn being completely exempt from the equation.

This also assumes that everybody that is successful with staying away from porn, masturbation, and sex as a whole becomes, or has temptations to be come, a rapist.

There's also a shitload of psubs for people to fap to. I'm pretty sure most people would go to those if porn became inaccessible.

 

[Deleted Account]

There's also a shitload of psubs for people to fap to. I'm pretty sure most people would go to those if porn became inaccessible.

And this addresses two things. It addresses that people will always find something else to masturbate to because thanks to our creativity and imagination, almost anything can be a psub. And it addresses that we can't realistically say we can ban porn because, as stated earlier, what can be called "porn" can be referencing many different things. From that sex scene you like in that movie to a gif you know about or could find.

Now I will say that porn, in the common form (videos and pictures) enables our addictive, self-destroying behavior. But it's us that has to choose to be or not to be (no Shakespeare pun intended) like that.

 

[Deleted Account]

At young age, we fall prey to PMO. We were excited to explore more about P and found our self in compulsive behaviour. But we are wise enough to know its a trap now but continuously failing to recover from it. The psychological conditioning is strong and the Billion dollars market value. It can't be blocked, Those who behind, keep PORN alive and keep people addicted to it. It is one of the ways of controlling people.

I am partial to the claim that porn should be regulated so that children can't stumble onto it, but how could this actually be executed is my question. Porn is still literally (not figuratively) everywhere. And how would websites identify that the individual viewing porn is underage? The most pornsites use is an "only enter if you're 18" message. This obviously wouldn't stop every child (it didn't stop me) and is a very half-assed attempt to prevent children from viewing explicit material, assuming it even was much of an attempt at all.

I mean, right now, unless you actually attempted to prove your identity to me, I don't really know who you are, nor do you know me, right now. Your profile states you're a male 27 year old, but for all I know, you're a transgendered 47 year old pedophile that collects headless dolls. (highly improbable, yes, but not impossible nor do I actually think you are that )

How would we employ a mechanism that confirms you are who you say you are while keeping your anonymity and provide a barrier against children?

I agree with the claim that we should limit it, but how would we do that without enforcing things onto those who may not choose what we choose?

Until somebody can argue otherwise, I'm of the stance that we should be attempting to spread the wisdom that porn is not worth it as opposed to restricting personal freedoms.

 

[FrankMartin]

I love when people on this site who relapse are advocating for it being banned, almost like they’re outing themselves (not mentioning specific names, but if this offends you, it may be directed towards you).

You can argue all you want on whether porn should be banned or not. But in reality, a porn ban will be ineffective. It doesn’t take a scientist to access the Deep Web, and the only way you’d successfully get rid of porn is a North Korea-styled dictatorship where computers with Internet access aren’t allowed, and only a heavily-moderated intranet is used. And let me remind you: the government is not some benevolent mate of yours. The government wants power over you and the functionings of society.

Yeah, I’d rather have access to porn than that, because I can control myself and not watch it.

The thing is that tweens get addicted to porn at an age where they really can't be expected to see the long term consequences of using porn. All governments as far as I know already bans child porn. I'm sure we could find some child porn on the deep if we really searched and then we would probably end up in jail. The nice thing is that with all my time on the internet I have never stumbled upon child porn, because it's banned. Banning porn would not make it impossible to get hold of, but it would make it more difficult and porn usage would go down. That would be a good thing.

 

[Liv4ever]

The thing is that tweens get addicted to porn at an age where they really can't be expected to see the long term consequences of using porn. All governments as far as I know already bans child porn. I'm sure we could find some child porn on the deep if we really searched and then we would probably end up in jail. The nice thing is that with all my time on the internet I have never stumbled upon child porn, because it's banned. Banning porn would not make it impossible to get hold of, but it would make it more difficult and porn usage would go down. That would be a good thing.

I agree... The cyber crimes ,Sexual offenses can all be lowered if Porn and its accessibility to the general public is highly moderated... But VPN,torrent sites nd all sorts of crap wld still find a way to get it...
Technically porn was banned in india +-+ months ago... Bt with VPN its futile.

Ppl fight fr internet privacy nd fail to understsnd nd this "virtual invisibility" is actually fking our brains up
As a teen i just Got curious nd puff .. Got hooked...

 

[Goldenlion7892]

I am partial to the claim that porn should be regulated so that children can't stumble onto it, but how could this actually be executed is my question. Porn is still literally (not figuratively) everywhere. And how would websites identify that the individual viewing porn is underage? The most pornsites use is an "only enter if you're 18" message. This obviously wouldn't stop every child (it didn't stop me) and is a very half-assed attempt to prevent children from viewing explicit material, assuming it even was much of an attempt at all.

I mean, right now, unless you actually attempted to prove your identity to me, I don't really know who you are, nor do you know me, right now. Your profile states you're a male 27 year old, but for all I know, you're a transgendered 47 year old pedophile that collects headless dolls. (highly improbable, yes, but not impossible nor do I actually think you are that )

How would we employ a mechanism that confirms you are who you say you are while keeping your anonymity and provide a barrier against children?

I agree with the claim that we should limit it, but how would we do that without enforcing things onto those who may not choose what we choose?

Until somebody can argue otherwise, I'm of the stance that we should be attempting to spread the wisdom that porn is not worth it as opposed to restricting personal freedoms.

The only reason porn sites have an enter your birthdate or don’t enter unless you’re 18 is so they can cover their own asses legally. Should something go down like a parent upset about their child spending time on a porn site the company that owns the website can use this as an excuse to as why they shouldn’t have been there in the first place, they had been warned etc.

The companies the own the porn sites don’t care about children visiting the websites or the countless people that get hooked on it every day. I think our government needs to step in and they should have stepped in a long time ago. Why they’ve ignored this problem for so long boggles my mind and it almost seems like they want people to be miserable.

 

[Deleted Account]

I think our government needs to step in and they should have stepped in a long time ago. Why they’ve ignored this problem for so long boggles my mind and it almost seems like they want people to be miserable.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or something you actually think. Assuming it's the latter, why the hell would you expect the government to "solve" our problem and why would you think they'd want people to be anything but miserable at all?

 

[Gotham Outlaw]

I think it would be more effective to teach people that porn is addictive and has negative effects. If you told teenage me that porn can give you erectile dysfunction or hocd I would have avoided it like the plague.

 

[MLMVSS]

The thing is that tweens get addicted to porn at an age where they really can't be expected to see the long term consequences of using porn. All governments as far as I know already bans child porn. I'm sure we could find some child porn on the deep if we really searched and then we would probably end up in jail. The nice thing is that with all my time on the internet I have never stumbled upon child porn, because it's banned. Banning porn would not make it impossible to get hold of, but it would make it more difficult and porn usage would go down. That would be a good thing.

Child porn is banned because it’s nonconsensual, not because it’s porn. CP is the opposite of free speech due to its nonconsensual manner. Porn, meanwhile, is connected to the idea of free speech.

It’s up to the parents to raise their children, not the government. Government raising people creates slavery. Parents raising them right creates liberty.

 

[Infinite spirit]

How about not making porn in the first place?

 

[MLMVSS]

How about not making porn in the first place?

Sure, that’s always a possibility, but that’s something the individual should decide and not the government, because “porn” can be anything depending on who rules. In Iran, they censor women’s feet if they’re exposed. Yeah, their FEET, because it’s too porny for the men. Incentives like this can give government too much control. This is why porn is, in a sickening way, connected to free speech, as are every other idea.

 

[BobbyBrown567]

How about not making porn in the first place?

As nice as an idea as that is, I can't imagine them ever just stopping. It would almost be a bit rich for the P industry to start waving the ethical flag.

Unfortunately one of the effects of capitalism is that if people can sell something, they will, regardless of the consequences. If coke and heroin were legal, no doubt a market would spring up overnight for it. A great example is meat, dairy and eggs. They all cause catastrophic animal suffering, but it's legal, so sell away!

Shame really, makes me loose faith in humanity but then again organisations like this restore it!