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Sleep edging?!

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by NoBrainer, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. NoBrainer

    NoBrainer Distinguished Fapstronaut

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    So I've mentioned this before in my journal, but it happened again last night. I woke up to the sensation of myself edging, until I woke up enough to realise I was doing it and then stopped.

    Has anyone else experienced this? It is difficult to explain, but I do not consider this to be a relapse (even though it says in my counter I will reset if I edge), because it was at least partially involuntary. But it sucks because it felt like I'd relapsed this morning. :(

    Factors that it could be dependent on are:
    • Not going to bed early enough/ trying to wake up early the next morning
    • Not meditating before bed
    • Wearing lose fitting underwear
    • Arousal before bed
    This shit is seriously annying. :mad: Any help on the matter would be much appreciated. The only person I know of who anything like this has happened to was Melancholy Weightlifter, but he is long gone from the forums...

    Cheers
     
  2. NoBrainer

    NoBrainer Distinguished Fapstronaut

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    Would you consider this a relapse?
     
  3. Temujin

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    I wouldn't because it is involuntary.

    I wonder what is causing it.
     
  4. Had this.
    I was fapping in sleep. It's really horrible, because you can't control it. The main reason of it is being aroused before going to sleep. I didn't find any solution for it, so I can't help you. Meditation may help. Tried to help myself by lifting, but results are bad.
     
  5. Ah, no worries, mate. Definitely not a relapse. Far from it.

    It's completely normal and it's just all to do with the rewiring of the brain. Your body is still adapting to a PMO free life. I've had this happen to me before as well.

    All of these strange things are exactly the same as wet dreams. It's no different. Although you didn't actually ejaculate, it is all still the same category of fish.

    Like even this morning, I had an extremely vivid dream that I was viewing porn, and when I woke up I felt SO guilty, because it felt so real. I genuinely thought that I had just watched porn. It took me a good several seconds to wake up out of the haze and realise that it was just a dream.

    It is just the body rewiring. That is the only explanation. It's not because of anything you haven't done. The good thing is, is that you didn't ejaculate. If you can edge in your sleep without ejaculating, then it means that you have things more under control than you realise. It means that your meditation in the past is working and coming into use.

    The obvious thing here, is that your body is trying to do it's own thing whilst you're in the sleep state. Your subconscious wants to have sex. Most of our bodies, mind and soul are not yet fully rebalanced. Most of us yet are not back at our default selves, even if we have done plus 90 days, and this is okay. It's going to take a little while before all of these little things can stop completely. Our whole system, not just brain, is rewiring. Our bodies, while in the sleep state, is weaker, has less will power, therefore it is easier for the body to act out it's lustful desires.

    Until we rewire fully, things like this will continue to happen, but that's okay. It is all part of the rebooting process :)
    The reason it feels so horrible when you wake up after these things happen, is because they actually are happening in your body. You DID edge, but only on a subconscious level. So, it did happen, but it wasn't your fault.

    The body and mind are truly amazing things, but we can teach our body to be less "naughty" by meditating and sexually transmitting out energy into other things during the day :)
    In your soul, you want to PMO, but in your mind you do not. Your soul is acting out it's desires THROUGH the body in the sleep state.

    Once we fully reboot and rewire, this will no longer happen. Our mind, body and soul would have aligned perfectly, and will be in full agreement with each other. Because of the damage of PMO, the mind, body and soul are in constant argument :D

    The longer one has spent engaging in PMO throughout the course of their life, the longer it will take to rewire, but it's okay. We just need to enjoy the process ;)

    I miss Melancholy Weightlifter.
     
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  6. SerpentEagleHeart

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    Wouldn't consider this a relapse at all!

    In your sleep, are you edging to porn (or like the memory or imagination of porn) or to more 'real life' situations?

    I sometimes have dreams about 'real life' situations and I think of that as a good thing because it shows my brain is rewiring and reconnecting to real life instead of being sexualised by porn or whatever...
     
  7. Esteban

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    Here's what I could say.

    I mostly have wet dreams. Sleep edging I think never happened to me.
    But wet dreams.. arghhhh.

    First off, I don't consider it a relapse. Like @Temujin said.

    Second, I also had the problem of wet dreams because I was fornicating in my dreams but in a P fashion.. It's really hard.. You feel guilty and ashamed.
    It's so disgusting. The worst is that I had P dreams where I had S with several women and stuff... So gross.. It's gross because it's in a P like way.

    Eventually I think it's hard to avoid that. Maybe watch image of flowers of beautiful landscape for 15 minutes before sleeping ?
     
  8. Newbornme

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    Im having the same situation, during these 42 days without pmo i had something like 5 really vivid erotic dreams, but none of them were wet dreams.

    The funny thing is that in most of these dreams, i dreamed with girls that passed through my life that i couldnt have sex due to my PIED.
     
  9. NoBrainer

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    Thank you for the helpful replies guys. I guess I had already decided that it wasn't a relapse, after reflecting on it, both by myself and with my AP.
    Neither as far as I can tell. I just wake up to the sensation of masturbation. It will usually be following a dream, although on all the instances I've experienced it so far it's been after a non-sexual dream. I don't get many sexual dreams. A big problem is it's the sort of crazy death grip edging that causes desensitisation, and my penis will feel quite 'deadened' after I wake up! :eek:

    Yeah, I've had that too. Although mainly when I've had wet dreams they've either been associated with porn, or just nothing at all. Or I don't remember. Yeah, it would be reasonable to assume that this is a good sign that your brain is rewiring back to desiring real women. :) Perhaps this is because you have had relationships before? Where as I've never had any sort of relationship (boo bloody hoo ;)).

    Hmm yes. I have had doubts about this whole 'rebooting' thing to start with. I'm not saying I think it's all a load of tripe, but I do think we put unreasonable expectations on 'the rebooting process'. Personally, I think that my body is reaching a sexual turning point from not having any sort of sexual release for a long(ish) period. I mean, we aren't biologically assigned to be celibate our whole lives, we are designed to reproduce. Gabe Deem has also stated that the 'rebooting process' consisted of two stages: 1) Quitting porn, and 2) Rewiring with real women. Basically I'm saying I want to have sex. :eek: But for all the wrong reasons... :rolleyes: I just need to get my act together on that front!

    I agree with you about the balance between mind and body. I have a slightly different way of thinking of rebooting (although I guess it has the same outcome). That is, the brain may have recovered, but it hasn't forgotten. I expect it takes exponentially longer for the brain to 'forget' a past behavior.

    Agreed. He was a good influence on this forum.
     
  10. SerpentEagleHeart

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    This is interesting. As well as cutting out old behaviours maybe you need to start 'building in' new behaviours... i.e. talk to real women in real life so that your brain shifts to being attracted to them. At the moment it sort of sounds like you're just getting rid of P but not replacing it with anything? This means your body has to release all your excess sexual energy in sleep edging??

    (Which of course I may be completely wrong about!)
     
  11. NoBrainer

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    Yeah, I'm working on it. Read my journal. I've been banging on about replacement methods and transmutation of sexual energy for months on end! ;)
     
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  12. kriss93

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    I don't think this would be a relapse... but what do you think guys, imagine huging with your love in the bed, and your dick has moved, count as a relapse, or could it slow down the reboot process?
     
  13. ChangeofDavid

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    @NoBrainer , anything involuntary is not your fault, you didn't deliberately edge. It has never happened to me but I know it would be a tough situation to be put through. I struggle with the nuance of edging as I am not on hard mode. I have stumbled onto a magazine before and glanced at the cover and felt a partial relapse. You, NoBrainer, know the answer to your problem and, I believe you have the answer inside. I wish you well and I believe you will reach your goal and more!
     

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