"Sleep-fapping" = Relapse??

same problem here, i couldnot get sleep if i donot get orgasm at night . to get orgasm i have to masturbate . smoking sleepng fapping is the worst . Try avoid using technology while going to bed . tv/internet/smart phone at bed is really dangerous . but we cannot avoid smartphone at bed sadly

 

Listen, its all about your goals.
If YOU think its a relapse , then its a relapse,. if you dont think its a relapse then its not a relapse.
According to me, its not a relapse, because you did it involuntarily and without porn, and it just kinda happened in the heat of the moment where you were really feeling horny , so i wont say its a problem.
But still try to cut it out, it will slow down your reboot.
Be careful next time.

 

Agreed. It's the intent behind the behaviour rather than the behaviour itself. If I walk out of here today and see a great looking woman in shorts and I shoot my load in my pants without touching it then that to my mind is NOT a relapse. If I have a wet dream, also not a relapse. Same with being asleep and playing with my prawn. Not a relapse. If you go and sit down someplace while fully awake and spank your plank then I would call that a relapse because you did it consciously and with a certain end in mind.

 

if you make the decision to relapse, then it is one. If you did it while you were asleep it is certainly not. BUT, it is more beneficial to prevent these wet dreams if you can. I have got mine under control of late and it takes practice. Basically ive learned how to stop myself from orgasm with a lot of pc muscle training. When im in a wet dream and im about to ejaculate i somehow manage to wake up every time, right at the point im about to climax and i stop it. Then all i do is lay there and go back to sleep. Dunno how im able to do this, i think its because im so focused on not blowing my load that im somehow in control.

 

If its involuntary and you had no conscious control over it then no its not technically a relapse from my point of view but I still see it as a problem if it keeps happening. You are on the path to recovery over time when your brain forms new neural pathways away from the porn they should stop in theory. I’m no expert of course but this is what I believe should be the case.

You know our brains are like super computers it really is true when people say that you can do anything that you set your mind to you will always find a solution. You are far too focussed on porn and sex right now distract your mind with other thoughts. Like reading a book, learning a new skill, travelling it can by anything. Shift your focus and commit to doing the reboot. When you hit your mark then you can return to dating and meeting people that will be your focus and you will see that people and opportunities are everywhere you have no need for fapping anymore you can get laid.

 

This happened to me as well. I didn't count it as a relapse because its my mind that's fucking with me. I don't even know if I flapped or not, every time I woke up, I kept touching my dick.

Over time your mind will do this, less and less with you.

 

Just I have some trouble understanding how that involuntary masturbation happens? I mean are you awake and vigilant when you grab your dick and start jerking? If that is the case how long it takes before you stop? I have a hard time imagining being awake and vigilant and continue jerking of.

There is the habit and the conditioning that can explain the impulse making you start but I think it's not honest to put more than a few seconds of M on the count of unawareness or "unconscious of what is happening mind".

Sorry if what I say is discouraging but unless you are asleep or under some drugs/medication you can't possibly be unconscious of what is happening and don't stop right away unless it's your intention to continue, for whatever reason that may be...

 

Not bumping up old threads but I do have the same struggle. It was exactly the same as what happened to you.