So you think that cam girl really loves you?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by rob1983, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. rob1983

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    You think the chat room is a warm and happy place. Your favorite host greets you so sweetly, remembers your favorite song, gives you her email address and sends detailed information about herself and shares intimate moments. She calls you her friend and hints that someday you can meet her, maybe, possibly, sort of...You begin to schedule your time just to see her show, you spend more than you should just to be one of the "regulars" and get her special attention, you find yourself checking your email multiple times a day, you immerse yourself in emails to her declaring your love, and you have a secret credit card to hide your activity.

    Get out now. You are no match for these temptresses. They have you by the short hairs and know things about what turns you on better than you. They are masters of seduction and have one common goal: drain your credit card. You think she really likes you and wants to be your friend? Do yourself a favor and do a search on the web for some of these phrases and see just what you really mean to them:
    webcam payday
    make money as a cam girl
    webcam master plan

    See what you really are to them, find yourself in the examples they use to discuss how to keep you on the hook, and then have a good cry and get the hell out. Now.
     
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  2. IncenseCedar

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    Oh man! Been there done that! Another thing to think about is how little many of these women actually make. I talked to one host at length about her work. She told me she only gets 30% of the minute rate. I wondered if I wasn't contributing to sexual slavery!

    The get out now warning is good advise!
     
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  3. rob1983

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    I have bad news for you. While that may be true for the foreign girls working in studios, the best ones working as independents make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year doing this. They work hard, very hard, but their ethics leave a lot to be desired as they prey on your base emotions and lie about how special you are to them. Search the terms i posted and see just what they really think about you; see how they classify and talk about you.
     
  4. IncenseCedar

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    Got it. I don't doubt legitimacy of your position. In any case, using those services leaves me feeling empty and used.
     
  5. rob1983

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    Me too. I quit just a few days ago. Feeling better already. Lot of anger left over, but ultimately, all my fault. Time to move forward. Good luck to you.
     
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  6. I had about 7 months on a camgirl site and I spent around $1000 on tokens during that time. That may be nothing compared to many others who are so deep in the addiction hole that it's now hard to see sunlight...nevertheless, for the rest of my life, I'm going to get all that lost time, energy and money back by turning away from Fantasy Land and intensify my other passions in life with reading, meditating, exercising and spending more time with friends and family. It's no use getting mad anymore. What is past is past. Now get even!...without anger, without remorse, quietly, day by day, walk your special inner trail to your own personal Mt. Kailash.
     
  7. IncenseCedar

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    Great post and attitude! I'm walking the path with you, man!
     
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  8. I tried the search terms and didn't find anything too merciless, certainly not horrifying. Maybe I needed to go further down-page.

    I've never gotten into the cam thing anyhow....
     
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  9. rob1983

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    My target here is more married men and those caught up in it and finding it hard to get out of a "relationship" and stop spending money they do not have. Try searching webcampayday. It is legal and consensual and not everyone is as vulnerable to this as others and not all chat hosts are this mercenary. Some actually are nice and just like to be exhibitionists. But some are hardcore with absolutely no regard for emotion or vulnerabilities. They are methodical and deliberate in their assessment and treatment of men they think will help finance their lifestyle and pretend to like them and hook them with flattery and promises. There is no downside for the chat host, other than having to deal with guys' sexual imaginations and requests. They hold all the cards and can walk out when they wish. There is no "lemon law" for chat promises and no laws against flirting and showing skin for a response. But NoFap is for people in trouble with their emotions and trying to recover from addictive behavior and if this helps some of them realize the money they throw at these women will not result in a date or sex or a real "friend" or if it helps someone stop spending their family's money to please a chat host or if it helps them see the light and stop a destructive fantasy and stop ruining a relationship with a girlfriend or wife I will be happy. I want to simply open up the eyes of people having similar experiences and help them get over the fantasy and move onward and end the secrecy and hurt it can cause relationships.
     
  10. Saw that, but missed this this: "Eventually you will break them down, and they won’t be able to help themselves."

    You know, I get it: for sure there have to be a lot of bad people out there taking advantage of lonely (& horny) guys, and after reading the pricing and thinking about how the minutes can add up, video chat sounds like a way for them to do it faster than a lot of other ways. Other forms of porn are so much cheaper.

    Sorry to have been so dense.
     
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  11. Your Time Tunnel image is really cool!
     
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  12. I'm glad you like it! :)
     
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  13. Budh

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    You're just a dollar sign. Just like hookers they see you as a dollar sign.
     
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  14. Robbiebob

    Robbiebob Fapstronaut

    Yes I hear you. .. Porn & chat rooms, Web caming leads you to nowhere.. .and so agree with you... Keep that good fight up my friend.. . Rob
     
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  15. Yeah, cam girls are bad... Ok maybe some of them aren't persons but it's all an illusion, they know it and deep down we know it. I mean I try to give everyone the benifit of the doubt, and maybe some of the girls feel they have no choice, but I have no doubt some of them are persons.

    If you've never visited these sites be thankful and stay away from them. I ended getting into financial trouble because I went on them. I kinda lost my mind and spent so much on this cam girl that went into the red and still haven't been able to get out of it yet.

    Even now it's still a temptation.
     
  16. rob1983

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    Wave, you and I are the reason for this post. You are right; some cam girls have little choice. But you and I am many others walked willingly into the room of a pro, not a poor, scared girl giving most of her money to a "studio" as they do in Romania and other spots. We were welcomed as friends and it was very sweet and innocent. Until we spent our first 500 tokens. And then they put their plan into motion, the marketing to make us want to spend more, the come-on to be a "regular" and try to keep up with the high spenders, the inexpensive fan club giving us colored chat names and special privileges. But the worst of it was the deception, the false sense of being "special" to them and the trading of emails and promises and intimate details of their lives. I fell for that hard, thinking somehow that i was special and important to her and I went all out and spent a lot of money. But worse than the money was the emotional investment. I was totally hooked. I know, my fault, my weakness, my pathetic thoughts of somehow meeting her and...what? Becoming a part of her life? A lover? A boyfriend? What would she want with a guy who visits her room and watches her masturbate on cam? So when i read some of the lines in the manual, about how she would entice and retain guys just like me as an income stream and "milk" my credit card, about how she would use psychology to keep guys like me interested by giving me "private" access to her emails and give me special attention so she could suck thousands of dollars out of them, it f__ked me up bad. See, I wasn't there to watch her finger herself, I really thought i was in love with someone real. The thing that finally forced me to take a hard look and see reality was when, after hinting we could meet, i backed out and told her i was a married man and I had changed my mind. She emailed back that, well, maybe it COULD happen. She was encouraging me to be a bastard and fuck up my marriage. She was in total mercenary mode by then and i knew i had to get out and get help. But yeah, i still think about her. I am a sap, but i will not go back. You and I and all the others need to find a hobby. Mine right now is writing here about this stuff, but i already have made changes and i exercise a lot more, play a lot of classical music and try to move forward. Good luck to you. Use your anger to dive into something.
     
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  17. They are like the Sirens of the sea to sailors...the sailors end up in watery graves after being allured by the sirens sweet melodies and flawless looks
     
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  18. Robbiebob

    Robbiebob Fapstronaut

    My friend.... I couldn't have said it any better myself... So so true! !... Rob
     
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  19. Sorry, you've gone through that @rob1983. For me I never got that attached to a particular girl because deep down I knew it wasn't real. I did have one girl ask if she could Skype me but I refused. Really I would just go on the sites to have 'fun'. Unfortunately, I just viewed them sexual objects (that's what PMO does to you). I wasn't rude or mean to any of them because I'm not like that but in all honesty, in my eyes, they were there for sexual gratification. But occasionally some of the girls would say things that reminded me of their humanity. Like one girl started telling me she had a cold and her Mother wanted her to take medication. Then there was this girl who got annoyed because I was tipping her but not talking to her. She said something like, I am not a machine, I am a person. If you don't want to talk to me leave my room. And then she blocked me.

    I regret how I viewed them as a sexual object, especially the ones who showed their humanity. But that's one reason why I'm doing NoFap, so I view women in the sort of way.
     
  20. This site is a perfect expression for me now since I finally closed the door on porn, a camgirl site and jerking off. All the time, money and energy wasted I'll certainly recover if I never divulge in Fantasy Land again. loveisgrand was my username at the camgirl site and it was green because I was a fan club member with three people. Now everything is different because NoFap is exactly where I want to be, where people are respected, where people help and support each other out of the clutches of enslavement to erotica and wasting semen on oneself. Also, the mods here are on our side, we tip only to help people, buy things from NoFap's store and to donate money to this great site. Finally, the Avatar image that I chose represents the camgirl who left that scene to pursue the holistic path to Self-awakening. It is as if the camgirl site is now completely spiritualized! I am totally at home here!
     
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