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Sometime's I just want to give up on everything!

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by xSolidSnake86, Jan 31, 2016.

  1. xSolidSnake86

    xSolidSnake86 Fapstronaut

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    The support and encouragement from all of you means alot to me. It's also very motivating. I decided to pmo though one last time this morning after 8 days of abstaining. I know I shouldn't have, but I did. I need to make it a habit to come here to nofap, or read YBOP and YBR whenever urges get too intense. Or just go in another room for a while, make my body/mind change it's tempo. I had a badass morning erection that wouldn't go away for 15 mins AFTER stepping foot out of bed! Lol made me feel like a super teen again :)

    I'm gonna stop counting days and just look at nofap as a way of life, not as a task (as tasks have an end). And counting days keeps reminding me and tricks me into thinking "oh I'm not that far in so it's ok to just relapse and start again". I'm gonna have to be really strong over the next week or so as the crash from pmo gets you in a low mind set for several days after it. I'm strong deep inside I know I am!

    I have pretty instense anxiety going back since childhood (20 years of pmo no doubt made it a million times worse). I was thinking too much about that girl who wrecked me after waking up from a pretty damn vivid dream about her. (Btw dreams I find infinitely more vivid and intense on nofap than ever before). Thinking things like how she's living the fancy dream life happily married with children etc (which she is since late 2008).. She has a huge family like countless cousins, uncles and aunties etc. They all live in around my area and city. And with asians, everybody knows everybody and their business. I can't get on with my business without someone in her family knowing about it. Anyway yeah that fed into my wanting to say "goodbye" to porn one last time this morning. I've made a counter (for fellow Fapstronauts, not for me) because I want to be held accountable for my actions. I wanna stop pmo forever!

    @Bale And you're right. I'm going to download an English Quran app on my phone after this post. Get my feet wet and start in the shallow end. Getting more knowledge in English will make me want to get better and eventually get started in the deep end. You're analogy is spot on. I guess inside I've been subconsciously putting off things by finding excuses not to do something that is beneficial for me. It's a major flaw of mine that I must work on!
     
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  2. zenon27

    zenon27 Fapstronaut

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    DUDE let me tell you, I am 27 years old only now did I had my GF, since before NoFap i was freaking socially awkward, I would feel self-pity, thinking whats the point.
    I was like this for so long actually ever since i watched Porn and wank to it. Low self-esteem manifest in giving me OCD symptoms, I was obsession over walking, heart beat, my saliva, sexual orientation. etc It was scary, I would get incest thoughts around my family and giving anal to my cats, it was terrifying.

    I relapsed twice, first time on day 72 and next time on day 27 but you see now I actually feel more love for myself, by preserving my sexual energy I'm direction that flow into more important thing. Self-build for if one can't love himself, how can he/she ever love another

    I would only slow them down. So I'm done feeling pity, I'm exercising, I actually called for work, got on that meeting and now hopefully I should have it by next week :) Then I leave this stressful place I used to call home. My father was a drunk and my mother was a scared person, so I would stick around instead of looking into building my own life.
    Porn and masturbation was my relief at times, but it was also what gave me low self-esteem, with lack of energy I had, I would look around and compare my life to others, my body to others, even sometimes feeling its attraction when all it was simple jealous, envy or admiration.

    dude, walk with nature, find yourself. Don't neglect your mind body and soul.
    Start to self-build to gain that self love so you'll not going to do what your EX did to you. With whoever you will be next you'll not be a burden to them, but a person of love, and you'll be able to share that same love with them. That capable person, that strong shadow, with a posture that screams this man is confident and proud living in his own skin.

    Low self-esteem = observation and compare = heavy burden to himself = ego

    Don't let the world scare you, nobody can guide you but yourself.
    Sexual energy makes new life, but its also the energy of creation/build so spend it wisely.
    Don't let ego get to you.

    We people here believe in you :) you got this :cool:
     
  3. Eric'sBlue

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    Look man, I typed something but the computer just deleted all that I had wrote. Go figure, right? I will say it simply. I'm the same age as you. 29, I have the same feelings as you do - a lot.
    My dream is to get out of the US. People question me as to why this is, they even ask me aggressively or angrily as to why I don't like it here; that should be one reason as to why I want to get out of here. It's unaccepting. I want something far simpler/different. I don't want to have to watch movies about simpler and more fulfilling places; I want to go there. I also don't want to be sold that shit about "moving up the ladder" here, and making it work for you. It's coercive. I see myself in another culture, where it's more relaxed. Where people take the time to enjoy the simple things, relish and love one another, and life is about other things other than, work, money...ever increasing status, etc. I see myself in a different culture, doing different things, not chasing the same things that everybody here, is.

    It's the same old story, for me. Want something simpler.
    I messed up bigtime. Sometimes, you don't know you're wrong until you find out, or someone tells you. In your own eyes you are right. I blamed everybody around me or everything. I didn't work hard for myself, I took the easy way out. I think pmo did this to me Honestly. I went to bunch of shrinks growing up, all of which who encouraged my porn habits and saw nothing wrong with it. ....I took a bunch of meds they gave me. I turned away from God, my whole life was screwed up, and on the wrong rail. I did the wrong things. I honestly think that if I'd been aware of dangers of porn/known some about it, the addiction. Things would have been different, today.
    That's just how it is. Pick up your Quran. The best instruction is just to read it.
    Up until last year, I'd never read my own Bible...and I have always had it around me.
    Don't be angry, understand that life is toil, and struggle, and work...but that's how it is. It's just how it is. If you have a dream, if you work to get to where you want to be, you might get there. But if you don't, you just won't. If you're not feeling this way, something is wrong - and you are not living your life, but having your life lived while you sleep. Look at how many people are alive like this.
    Don't give up on yourself. The world has plenty of demagnetized, lost people. ... please don't be another one of these.

    I just wanted to say to you, be strong and always keep striving toward what you want for your life, your goal.
    I pray for you. Focus on what works...humble yourself, and find yourself. And then go run with it.

    To have a dream you have to have one.
    To have a life you have to work at it.
    To have a self you can't sell it down the river... but you have to be yourself. Find yourself.

    I want friends here, but Im scared. ...I don't know why, I think I'm afraid of people here, to me they seem... untrustworthy. People come and go/ and there are always strings seeming to be attached. I don't know... I crave basic things, like friendships and spending time with people. But no one talks to eachother here. I have neighbors I've been around for months and haven't even said 'hi'. Everything's so busy here.
    I want stability. ...maybe that's the reason I want to move and leave and go to some place simpler, where deeper relationships may flourish.
    I find it hard to open to people here, only to like have them leave later.
    That's how I feel, at least, but being lonely sucks. I have to figure something out with this. I have a hard time trusting people, but ironically enough - I feel if I were in some simple town or something, and just met some man on the road and talked with him, got to know him... I"d invite him into my home and we would be best friends.
    It's not like that here. People are always hiding themselves, concealing. angling it seems like. because it's a vicious environment and everyone's competitive. There's no where for people to go to hang out, here. ...just relax. There's starbucks...and even that's rushed/ and stressful. I think America's designed for that, which is why I want to leave.
    I don't know where I may meet people and develop these deep friendships... other than joining groups and cramming myself awkwardly into some thing like everyone else. It is hard, I don't know.
    I just want the simple things.
    You can't overlook things that are right in front of you, or hold grudges - like I do. I wasn't even aware of it. .. I was just mad at/with the world, because I felt scared. I think that's why a lot of people are like it. It will just come back on you, you have to be grateful, see things clearly and open yourself up to, what's in front of you.
     
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  4. xSolidSnake86

    xSolidSnake86 Fapstronaut

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    @zenon27 You're an inspiring person to say the least. Your words of wisdom I will make my own putting them into practice. And these porn induced dysfunctions are very powerful and deadly. Without knowing any better we brought it on ourselves. But I'm glad I know now. Each relapse I've had since discovering the truth have been far apart from one another (days, week(s)), unlike before during my ignorance I could never imagine going a single day without porn. Now I see the best version of myself standing in front of me yelling at me to scratch and claw my way there. And I will be there inshallah! I just have to combine the action, with the intention. And relish the journey of pain, hardship, along with the highs and rewards that come with it!

    @Eric'sBlue I agree with alot of what you said. It's somewhat the same here all over the UK. Not as hyper fast paced as the US, but it's the same shit! No one cares about one another. Friendships here are selfish. They're just about having a partner in crime (being hang-out buddies). Not friendship of the heart. You can't truly talk to anyone here. Not family, not friends, not a significant other, no one!

    You have to be what society demands, an emotionless robot, that just shows up when called upon and hops on one foot without question, just to "fit in", just like them! I see people who have 100s of friends (but really they may as well have none because as I said, friendships of the heart don't exist. They have friends just for the sake of having friends to "hang out" with to keep up with appearances). You're easily replaced by the click of a button in this day of technology. I envy my parents' time.

    Before mobile/cell phones and before the internet. Friendships and relationships had true love, real meaning and purpose. People stuck by each other, and didn't just dump and replace each other with the click of a button if you just happen to get up on the wrong side of the bed one day. My mams' friend who she hasn't saw or heard from in 25 years that lives just 2 streets away got back in contact just to say hey, and the love between was immeasurable that could shake mountains! Like they were never apart! That's what true love is!

    But since the late 90s early 2000s. The world has changed. If you pass up just one social gathering invite, the next time there's a get-together, you get passed up. If "friends" go a few days or weeks or months without contact, the friendship is pretty much over. You'll be strangers the next time you get in touch. Nothing is real anymore... it's all just for appearance! That's part of the reason why I let go of a lot of my "friends" 9 years ago. They were fake. Couldn't be more than just hang-out buddies, who spoke shit behind my back, judged me, critisized me for not being as perfect as they believe they are! Plus they all knew my infamous ex before me, so I didn't want anything to do with anyone even remotely associated to her anymore. She destroyed me, and she loved doing it. They were really her people, not mine.

    Girls dump you without hesitation for meaningless reasons playing the victim and making you (the guy) out to be the "the bad guy", because they know you're expendable, and there's many more guys out there for them to stumble upon! Unlike us guys who have no options after we're dumped, we have no social support either not from friends nor family - because we have to "be a man"! While girls get all the attention and support in the world! It's well known, that women underestimate our love for them, while we men and our ego's overestimate their love for us!

    And such a place that you crave and desire (as do I) does not exist I'm afraid! Perhaps only in our fantasies. Because in order to live, eat, and survive, you have to play the game. And the game is, Dog Eat Dog! We have to be alphas, not wannabe alphas who squirt our alpha potential into a tissue over 2D pixels that'll damage us more than we already are, which has most likely been the real damage that caused us to be damaged in the first place.

    What are you? What am I? We're a male! You know what that makes us? Fucking tigers! We are tigers who own this world! This world is ours! We can take it back and be who we are inside and who we want to be! So when our time comes, we can leave this world with no regrets! I'm sick and bored to death of feeling sorry for myself when all it is, is just shit in my head holding me back making excuses for me! I've wasted 20 years into a tissue! And for what? Just to see the world rush by living my life? I don't want that anymore! It's time to accept the world and society for what it is, let them be, and just stay focused on what we need to do to become the greatest version of ourselves! And in time, they will beg to be a part of our journey!
     
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  5. Eric'sBlue

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    It does exist. They do still exist, you have to believe it. I've seen it, with my own eyes. It's just not in the places you expect to find.

    It's in the low places. ...Check the low places. Keep checking where the billboards and flashing signs pointing you aren't.

    I would pick up your Quran.
     
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