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Sponsored by the porn industry...?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Rob_B_, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. Rob_B_

    Rob_B_ Fapstronaut

    About twenty years ago I quit smoking (incidentally, one of the easiest 'tough' things I've ever done - Allen Carr's "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking" really worked for me), and I immediately began noticing how much hidden tobacco promotion there was on TV, films, etc.

    Then, ten or so years ago I stopped drinking (not for good, but for a few years nevertheless) just to reboot my system and to have a different angle on life. Again, straight away it caught my attention how alcohol is everywhere, from arts and media and popular culture to religious and other holidays to our social life and daily shopping and much more besides.

    Now that I've (very recently, only a few days ago) stopped using porn, it seems to me that there are quasi-pornographic images and other trigger points in places where I wouldn't expect. I mean, if there's an article on the latest changes to the tax code, why does it need to be illustrated with the picture of a pretty woman suggestively poking a pencil into her mouth - why not the picture of an old geezer?!

    Am I just imagining it, or is there more eroticised / pornographic content out there than is needed? And if there is, what is the porn industry's role in this - surely they don't just passively sit by; they want to make sure their 'advertising' gets to all possible places, and then some, right? So are they driving any of this, or is it driven by our (men's) fixation on pretty/erotic/sexual imagery?
     
  2. we live in an oversexed society. Thats probably "all": the porn - industry is an result of this excessive focus on sex. And since it produces our image of how sex is supposed to be, you`ll find it again, where the idea of sex-sells is applied. My guess is that 80 percent of all humans on this earth see more sex in their life then practice it. Shall say Sex is mainly something we 1. dont have and 2. consume as a picture. This picture is then reproduced over and over again, even without indirect participation of the porn-industry. I guess they actually dont need to advertise what they sell, people anyway google for it :p
     
  3. Alcohol, cigarettes, betting are everywhere. Everything is overly sexualised. Fortunately I never smoked, so it isn't something I ever had to quit. I've never really been into Alcohol either. For a short period of time I go addicted to gambling, but broke that. All these things seem to be everywhere. I agree with you. I think pornography should be made illegal everywhere. Same for cigarettes, alcohol and gambling. That's just my opinion obviously. But I'm sure people are unlikely to disagree with me about porn and gambling.

    It's the same problem with Coca Cola. It's everywhere and as a result many default to that drink. That's another thing I quit.
     
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  4. tiredofbeingtired

    tiredofbeingtired Fapstronaut

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    The p industry doesn't need to push for more sex in advertising it's already the most powerful tool advertisers have so they would use it regardless.
     
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  5. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    ^^^ exactly.

    All you have to do is browse around on YouTube and look at how many of the thumbnails show a busty woman's cleavage. It's nothing more than clickbait to make sure you watch the video / read the article / etc. Sex is a universal, primal instinct that instantly gets everyone's attention. It will be used for marketing and sales until the end of time.
     
  6. Yeah society is pretty filthy, it’s crazy

    And do you think that Alan Carr book could be used for nofap? Never read it, but it’s about stopping addictions rifht
     
  7. Rob_B_

    Rob_B_ Fapstronaut

    In a way, this site, and others like this, are the equivalent of Carr's book. Meaning, they explain the mechanism behind the addiction, which for me is crucial to understand. The more you understand your enemy, your chances of beating it increase exponentially.
     
  8. It's a good sign you see porn everywhere. Means that your brain becomes sensitive again.

    And yes, sex is selling. It's everywhere. Nothing is without reason.
    See the latest perfume advertisements? It's filling me with disgust now, where it triggered me in the past.

    One benefit for those who wants to quit this habit:
    Lots of opportunities to train your eyes and thoughts :D
     
  9. Rob_B_

    Rob_B_ Fapstronaut

    Good point, didn't think of it like that. :)
     
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  10. So was Alan Carr’s book just learning on what makes you relapse in an addiction? So for nofap we just need to know what triggers us and how to avoid urges and temptation etc?

    What from the book do you think you found very useful that can be used to fight pmo?
     
  11. Rob_B_

    Rob_B_ Fapstronaut

    Yeah, pretty much. In a sentence or two, the book explains that the reason why you want to smoke is because of the subconsciously subtle withdrawal symptoms which start as soon as you finish one cigarette, which cause your brain to demand another. Nicotine doesn't give you any pleasant feelings, any 'high', anything like that, all it does it stops the withdrawal symptoms. In other words, the only reason you want to smoke a cigarette is the previous cigarette you smoked. All the reasons you tell yourself about why you want to smoke, such as 'it relaxes me' or 'it helps me concentrate' or 'I enjoy the hit', are just your brain rationalising it. All you need to do is to recognise and put up with those withdrawal symptoms for the 2-4 weeks that it takes for all the nicotine to leave your system, and you've broken the cycle. Obviously there's a bit more to it than that, but just understanding that mechanism, and also knowing that the 'will power' period is very short, that was what did it for me. (He then also explains why you start smoking in the first place, so that you can watch out for any relapse triggers, but I personally didn't really need that part of the book, because by this time I knew I was done with the habit.)
     
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  12. Oh wow, the only reason we relapse is because we want to stop the withdrawal symptoms, that kinda puts things into perspective a bit. Thanks! I think that will be helpful :)
     
  13. Rob_B_

    Rob_B_ Fapstronaut

    Just to be clear, that's the mechanism for nicotine; I'm not saying that's necessarily the same for other addictions.
     
  14. Awww why you gotta tell me that, I’ll just pretend I didn’t read what you said and remain ignorant, ignorance is bliss after all ;)))
     
  15. Rob_B_

    Rob_B_ Fapstronaut

    Hey, I said exactly that, on another thread. (It didn't go down well with the audience...) :)
     
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  16. Haha there’s always two sides to a debate, but it also depends on the situation and context, if being ignorant will help me get along better considering everything else, then ignorance it is :)
     
  17. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    Although, I do think men "create" alot of the stress of PMO.
    They Need the release. Or so they think.
    That's why lots of PAs are cranky and withdrawn, especially when they "need a fix" or it comes time to get "it in with themselves"
    It's the brain fog, sure, but like any other addiction, you do it to yourself by putting yourself in a situation where you think you have to have the next one and when you can't get it... Freaking out about it.
    It's the "gotta get the dopamine" mechanism (which is funny because, you already got it, essentially lol)
    Anyways, just my thoughts
     
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