Suppression and Control

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Grey is colourless, Dec 26, 2019.

  1. Grey is colourless

    Grey is colourless Fapstronaut

    ...vast difference between the two...
    ...No one should deny himself what he needs, but all sannyasins have to discover the difference between self-suppression and self-control. The sannyasin must learn to observe the sense experiences and the reactions of the mind, rather than living for the sake of sense experiences. This is the way to freedom and bliss
    ...The sannyasin realises that sexual drive is a very great power which can neither be suppressed nor fulfilled
    ...By gratifying the sexual drive, one is trying to extinguish a fire by throwing kerosene onto the flames
    .,.The seat of this energy is not so much in the semen as it is in the mind
    ... Only by controlling the sexual impulse as it arises in the mind can the state of continence be attained
    ... The whole effort has to be made on an inner level and not on an external level
    ... Sexual, emotional and spiritual [mental] energy are expressions of the same force on different levels.

    both involve:
    - non-expression
    - non-gratification of sensual desires.

    in suppression:
    - the individual avoids expression of desires and instincts for a different reason- either because of fear, inadequacy or wrong understanding
    - distorted thought patterns and ideas
    - a kind of opposition to your own personality, because you really do not agree with what you are doing - one does not want to do something, yet he still does it. The mind is split into two opposing elements and the self is denied
    - when the more negative aspects are experienced, they are either denied altogether, or only acknowledged minimally and are not looked at squarely. This denial leads to alienation of a part of oneself. The true self is divided and scattered, together with the energies and the hopes for a higher, transcendental life
    - one is not whole, not together, not in union with himself. When a suppressed person experiences a negative emotion he feels guilty because he thinks he should not feel it
    - the energy finds immediate expression in perverse erotic play, aggression or inner tension
    - The ordinary man works less, eats and sleeps more, and is plagued by mental problems and physical tension and illness

    in control:
    there is mutual agreement between both elements of the mind
    - When the sannyasin controls himself, he agrees with himself totally, and uses willpower to attain what he knows is in line with his objective.
    - The mind is split into two opposing elements and the self is denied. But in control, the mind works harmoniously to attain the desired self mastery- the self is affirmed. This is the fundamental difference.
    - becoming totally aware of his thoughts and feelings the sannyasin becomes better able to redirect them in a harmonious manner. This is how he develops mental strength and control whereas the ordinary person becomes weakened and suppressed
    - He is unaffected whether people think highly of him or not
    - He welcomes miserable circumstances, insults and abuse, taunts, blame and shame, that he may become strong enough to stand up to any adversity without losing balance.
    - He can sit quietly or work hard all day without any difference

    When one is working for control:
    - (to attain a higher objective) one realises that negative emotions arise from time to time. These have to be fully experienced if they are not to remain repressed in the deeper levels of consciousness, causing blockages and problems. Control requires that one be able to experience whatever arises, positive or negative, with complete awareness. The sannyasin must be able to acknowledge that he is feeling anger, greed, vanity and lust without feeling guilty, anxious or upset.
    - Whatever comes up he is ready to face, like a hero in the midst of a raging battle. He never falters, whereas the ordinary person, fearful of his own mind never takes up the struggle, squirming at the first sign of conflict.
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    Last edited: Dec 26, 2019
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  2. Grey is colourless

    Grey is colourless Fapstronaut

    Anything in [] or underlined is my own addition into the quotes.
    I've included one or two points such as : "- The ordinary man works less, eats and sleeps more, and is plagued by mental problems and physical tension and illness" because this is the Abstience part of the forum that believes there are benefits in full ceibacy and it's not all a simple addiction to pornography, as if there are no health implications to ejaculation, at all ... feel free to ignore those little points if you don't agree.
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  3. Captain!

    Captain! Fapstronaut

    Very well explained.
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