TEDx | Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation

thank you

 

Why do you guys still call your intolerant, out-of-touch, socialist leftists liberals? They left liberalism long ago.

I’m a liberal here by our definition, and liberals are considered right-wing here. Just live and let live, typically.

 

So, @KillCommunism got a suspension for bashing pedophiles? What the fuck is this world coming to?!

 

No, he didn't.

 

He said being gay was a deviant sexual behavior. That's why he got suspended.

 

Oh, ok. That makes sense. Thanks for letting me know!

 

That's just... not true. I'm sorry, but you clearly dont understand how psychology works. Not everyone who molests a child is even doing it for sexual pleasure. Just like rape. Rape is hardly ever about sexual pleasure or a man being so horny that he just has to go out and rape someone. Its about control and power and dominance and a lot of other things that have nothing to do with sexuality.

I dont understand why people thing sympathy is a slippery slope to accepting a behavior as okay. That's just not true at all. There are tons of things we can sympathize with people about that are horrible and not okay. For one, I sympathize with everyone on these forums about their addiction. Does that mean I'm one small step away from condoning porn use and saying it's normal and fine? Hell no. That's just dumb. That's not how sympathy works.

Sure. But theres a big difference between "looking at someone with a magnifying glass" or being cautious about them, and wanting them dead or imprisoned for life when they haven't done anything wrong. Which is what a lot of people want.

How do you not see the contradiction in what you're saying? Nobody is talking about simply taking them at their word. We are talking about them seeking help professionally for their problem. That's not words, that's actions. But you said previously that you dont want them to do that because it's pointless, basically, so what exactly do you want?

 

I'm sorry, but that is just wrong.

It's an adult who is driven towards pre-pubescent children. That shit should exterminated with extreme prejudice, anywhere it is found to be acted upon.

The recidivism rate on child-sex-offenders is sky high - they are essentially incurable, short of a large decrease in sex hormones.

It's NOT NATURAL because sex with pre-pubescent children can never produce offspring - and it's evil because it takes advantage of, and damages, children.

FUCK ANYBODY TRYING TO NORMALIZE THIS SHIT.

Dennis Miller once said that "if you feel driven to have sex with children, you need to take one for the team and off yourself." I'm with him.

 

Actually, that's not wholly true.

See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sharply/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6ef5aeda748b

For decades, few people noticed that legislators in Providence had deleted crucial language from Rhode Island state law in 1980. It wasn't until a 2003 court case that police, to their chagrin, discovered they couldn't prevent prostitutes and their customers from engaging in commercial exchange.
For the next six years until legislators corrected their error, the oldest profession was not a crime in Rhode Island -- and public health and public safety substantially improved as a result, according to a new working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research. The statewide incidence of gonorrhea among women declined by 39 percent, and the number of rapes reported to police in the state declined by 31 percent, according to the paper.
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So, when paid sex is more easily available, some men don't rape. Or rape less.

 

let me put my opinion on pedophilia:

I do agree that some forms of pedophilia are natural sexual orientation. However we are not animals we are humans we can control our instinct and see what is wrong and evil that is the difference between us and animals we can establish morals and a society.

Let me explain my opinion:

Sexual attraction from man towards Young teenagers(age of 13 to 18) is natural she sometimes can have nice body and other attributes that can cause a man get aroused and sexual attracted. However that doesn’t mean you have to accept those feelings and act on them. Same goes for gay people, they can have sexual thoughts of hot young teanagers but that doesn’t mean they should act on it.

So yes it can happen you get aroused or sexual attracted to a very young person but its still irresponsible and bad to act on it. You should control you’rself and realize what is bad and good. Just like killing, stealing is bad but you can have those thoughts.


However sexual attraction towards very Young people like infants is just sick and i think that isn’t natural behavior thing but more a mental issue.

The problem with her talk with me is that she also thinks sexual attraction towards infants is normal. No its not its definitely a mental issue. I can understand that you sometimes get attracted to teanagers females, boys.

I’ve got to be honest I’ve had a sexual attraction towards a young 13 year old and she wanted me but I didn’t do anything I rejected her because I knew it was wrong. Even if it was legal by the state I was living in I wouldn’t do it. It just doesn’t feel right.

Conclusion:

· Having sexual thoughts about people who didn’t reach puppetry have mental issue’s .

· People who have sexual thoughts about teenagers and don’t act on them are normal.

· People who have sexual thoughts about teenagers and act on them have mental issue’s

 

Some, sure. I didnt make a sweeping claim that no rapes have anything to do with sex. I was responding to someone making a sweeping statement that ALL child molesters are pedophiles.

That's not really pedophilia. I believe theres a different word for that, but I can't remember what it is. They've separated the distinction between teens and children.

I agree, it is very sick and I believe should be treated similarly to a mental disorder.

 

it isn't? but it are still young children i mean teanagers are just children in my opinion..

 

I dont necessarily disagree w that except saying they should kill themselves, thats a little... shall I say "Immature". No pun intended lol

What I was saying was for most pedophiles they were born w that feeling. Like how some people are born to liking gay people. Does it make it right? No.

To clarify I'm talking about pedophilia, not gays. Nothing is wrong w homosexuals imo. Child rapists on the other hand destroy lives.

And also somebody made a good point earlier, I think it was @Castielle. That pedophiles and child rapists are different definitions. One can try to seek out therapy and really submerge and hide there sexual urges. I say 'hide' bc I don't think they can fully healed or re-aligned. Just like how a gay man can't really be re-aligned his sexuality w gay conversion therapy and whatnot.

 

A 17 year old is different than a 13 year old

 

@kingpietro legally? No, they are not different. But a 20 year old, let's say, that has sexual affairs w a 17 year old turning 18 in a few months is much different than a 20 year old having sex w a 12 year old, in a morality sense.

 

If you have to do math to rationalize your sexual behavior, you're probably crossing a line.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

 

There are actually 3 different categories, apparently.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

Personally I dont really agree with you. I've always been very mature for my age, and when I was 19 I dated a guy who was 33. If I had met him 2 years earlier, that would have been considered wrong for some reason. But what difference does 2 years really make? I honestly dont think I was that different when I was 17 vs when I was 19. I still would have liked that guy and we still would have had tons in common and had a good relationship. Also when I was 19 (before the relationship with the 33 year old guy) I was dating a guy I had been friends with for years, and he was 16. We started dating when I was 18 and he was 15, which some people would say it wrong or weird, but I dont see why. If he had been two years older, or i had been one year younger, nobody would care, so what a the difference?

I think some adults who are attracted to teenagers are probably weird and creepy, but I dont think that necessarily always the case. I mean heck, I'm 25 now and I've met guys I thought were super hot and even flirted with a bit, only to find out later that they're 16. Finding out they were 16 didnt magically make them less attractive to me. Although I can't say whether or not age alone, in that situation, would have made me not date that person, because I'm not single and there are plenty of other reasons that person isn't a good match for me. But if I were single and that guy was more in line with my values and we had the same beliefs, I can't really say for sure whether or not I would have pursued something. Probably not, but it would have been solely because of fear of society's judgement, not because I actually felt it was wrong.

I think if someone is at a stage in their development when they are sexually mature and even sexually active, why shouldnt they be allowed to be with another consenting person, regardless of how much older they are? I think theres a HUGE difference between, say, a 30 year old man wanting to date a 16 year old girl who he has a lot in common with and actually likes for other reasons that aren't purely sexual, and a 30 year old man wanting to have a sexual relationship with a 10 year old or a 5 year old. Those are obviously different. If you think both are still wrong, that's totally fine and understandable, but you can't deny that one is clearly worse than the other, and I think when we are talking about a kid who is sexually mature (i.e. has gone through puberty) being with someone over 18, there should be more of a discussion there before just deciding their relationship is gross and wrong.

 

Lol didnt see this post, I posted the same link.

 

Completely disagree. We do not live in a black and white world. Plenty of rules have exceptions.

Heres an example. Someone I know personally IRL was I think 15 or 16, dating a 19 year old guy, and they had sex. Her mom found out and was mad and got him arrested for statutory rape. Later, once he was out of jail, they started dating again and now, years later, they are married and her mom loves the guy and is so happy for her daughter to be with him and feels bad that she ever got him arrested.

So clearly, when talking about ages of consent or people dating teenagers vs. people wanting to have sex with children, there is a huge difference and some things are just flat out wrong, while other things are more of a gray area.

The main reason having sex with children (geez that's so hard to type, every time, because disgusting... anyway) is because children are not mentally capable of consenting to sex. So what about older people, like 15 or 16, who are already going around having sex with their 15 or 16 year old boyfriends? They are considered able to consent to sex, but not when the other person is over 18? I know these laws obviously exist for good reason, like when an adult coerces a teenager or manipulates them, because teenagers might be a bit more gullible than adults, but there are also times when it didnt happen that way and both parties consented with complete mental clarity, because they're in love. I dont really see why that's a problem. (Well, technically, I dont believe people should have sex outside of marriage, so that would be a problem for me if they weren't married, but that's a different topic.)

Also, what about all of the adults who have coerced or manipulated other gullible adults into having sex with them? Why is it that when that happens to a 16 year old, its rape, but if the victim is 20, suddenly she just should be smarter and should have known better? Who decides where these lines should be drawn on what age of people are capable of consent or not? Every story needs to be heard in full. Unless the child in question is under the age of sexual maturity (i.e. hasn't even hit puberty yet), then I think we can all agree that's wrong an unnatural.