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THE CURSE OF BEING ATTRACTIVE AND ADDICTED TO PORN

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Envoy-ofthe-End, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. Envoy-ofthe-End

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    Hey guys I hope you all had a merry christmas. I wasn't planning on creating a thread until I conquered NoFap but since I just keep relapsing and shit feels like it keeps getting worse I just want to post this.

    So ever since I was a little kid I always have had girls come up to me even though I was always shy. I think this developed in me and later on when I started growing I never thought about going up to girls and asking them out, I felt no need. Around age 14, during afterschool I discovered porn with the other kids and ever since I layed my eyes on that pixelated filth I became an addict. I started MO at the age of 21 because I was always brainwashed by my family that I had to wait until I was married to have sex so I never slept with any of the girls I had the chance to be with, even my girlfriend. By this time I was getting really desperate and I never really thought much about myself, always thinking I was ugly and a video game nerd.

    I entered University and made great friends that I have to this day, they were the guys people payed attention to because they command presence and one of them is model status attractive but in my head I always thought we were just friends because of a coincidence, not because I was suitable for them at all. They discovered I was still a virgin so they convinced me I HAD to have sex with a prostitute just for the experience. I got extremely hooked and all of the prostitutes were always giving me what I wanted and even what I never asked them for. Some of them even confused to why I went to prostitutes because I was "far" too good looking but I thought they were just messing with me.

    Sick of being a porn/sex addict and not getting layed the right way because I always turned down girls because of my shy and introverted ways I found NoFap about a year ago. Farthest I've gotten was about 29 days before relapsing. I get really depressed so I think that triggers it. Anyways mentally I'm still in a rut because just last week like a 9/10 girl (she looked like a model) approached me and started talking to me, but I learned that as soon as she found out how BETA I was she stopped and left me (I had relapsed the day before). Like all the other girls that were interested in me just avoided me altogether when I tried to talk because honestly I felt so insecure it was disgusting. This together with opening a Tinder account and getting matches with super hot girls I came to the realization that I am a HUGE BETA attractive guy. People don't understand why I'm still single and why I can't talk to girls properly without fking up so bad and getting a mini heart attack.

    So from this day onward I'm going to do everything possible to continue NoFap because it's shameful that I can't backup my looks with my character. I don't need those "super human" powers of attraction because I can fap all day and still get attention, but that doesn't matter because internally I can't hold myself together! I hate how I've taken myself for granted and don't want to waste my life away like this any longer. I want the most ideal and beautiful girl for me and to achieve my goals! Gonna try to quit drugs too.

    Guys and girls, the only solution to being a better YOU is to QUIT porn, no matter how good looking or attractive you are, if you're CHARACTER and MIND are weak then you will fail. That is the lesson. Thanks to this forum and the people here I am learning to overcome this horrible addiction and to my friends that I made. Thank you all and have a happy new year!
     
  2. JakeWoods

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    I agree with what you’re saying.

    I’ve seen guys who are hideous but they still manage to sleep with tonnes of girls. As long as you’ve got confidence that’s all that matters.

    I’ve also seen and know good looking guys who find it hard to get a girl. Because they have zero game.

    It’s all about confidence. Girls pick up on that right away. If you’ve got no confidence in yourself. How the hell are you gonna be able to take care of her? Or at least that’s what she’s going to be thinking.

    You need to work on your confidence, and it all starts with the mind. You need positive thoughts. Block out negative ones and focus on your good qualities.

    Quitting Porn will help you. You don’t need the extra weight from being addicted to porn holding you down. Once you’re free of this addiction you will feel a weight off your shoulders. That will help.
     
  3. R2DToy

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    I've in the same rut as you. I'm also not exactly ugly. I've gotten tons of oppertunities when it comes to girls, but I never had the confidence to make anything of it, and it remains to be that way until this very day.

    I enjoy P too much I think. Or at least that's what I * think *. Because I know I'm addicted to this tool to get to that O. Nothing else works for me to get to O.

    I guess I myself haven't tried that much, although I do want to get rid of this addiction. I need something drastic to get me off this addiction, I just don't know what.

    I just want to say that I've got very little confidence as well, and am double ashamed because of it.

    People say, oh, I think you're a very creative and intelligent person, and I just shrug. I have many inner conflicts that keep me from gaining confidence. But I'm also scared. Scared of rejection, although I've had plenty of times had the balls to ask someone out, I don't know, what is it that's holding us back?

    I believe in many cases, OK, not trying to brag here, but the more intelligent folks tend to get less women. Because they think too much, and act too little. Since we're accustomed to using our brain so much, we forget about acting on our gut feelings/instinct and we don't take any actions. A lesser intelligent person might not even have the thought 'what if she..'. If you get my drift.

    I want to stop like you. I also have a constant mild depression (recovered from a huge rollercoaster depression). Need to get more out of the house, less at home on my PC (playing games). But then what? What kind of hobby? What's my motivation? Argh, the thinking starts again and I know I won't act.
     
  4. fapequalsdeath

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    Fuck brah, i've had so much arguing with my friends about whores. Idk why people don't seem to understand that it's not just like "riding a bike", there's moral-ethical and deep-personal issues involved when you resort to hookers. Anyway I wish you all the best. I too have felt how PMO puts a tap on your potential and it errodes ones spirit slowly and excrushiatingly. Let's make 2019 better than 2018!
     
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  5. fapequalsdeath

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    hey, there's a good quote by Napoleon (paraphrasing): "Intelligence and confidence are like 2 weights balancing out a ship, but if I had to choose one I'd choose confidence" and it makes sense, historically he made rash and brave decisions which were smartly executed. And still what good is being smart if you don't act? What good is being beautiful if you never use it for women?
     
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  6. Romans 6 23

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    If I were you I would get rid of tinder. swiping through an endless supply of women gives you a dopamine rush. Your brain has made the connection that it gets dopamine and it should have an O. so be honest with yourself, do you ever find yourself relapsing into pmo after using tinder? or the morning after.

    I (and several other guys on here) have also benefited from a break from social media too. Hang in there brother!
     
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  7. R2DToy

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    I just want to say that I guess it depends on where you live. Where I live it's legal. Also, I don't feel anything morally wrong with it, nor did I have deep personal issues when I visited them. The way I see it, it's simple. You need a release, don't have a GF, so you visit and pay a lady. It's a 100 times better than keep browsing the tube sites because it's real. Yes it costs money, but so do girlfriends. I'd still visit them if I'd actually enjoyed it, I don't anymore ever since I had trouble starting up my 'engine' and it becoming worse. Money is also an issue, since my budget became very tight ever since I moved to live on my own.
     
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  8. CH3RRY

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    Thanks for sharing your experiences. It is absolutely true, that looks are irrelevant if your other features aren't strong. The number one most important thing, the very foundation of everything is confidence, social skills and mental power. And I'm not saying this as some brain washed guy who thinks this is what matters the most to girls. What I mean is you can't do anything without these features. Doesn't matter how many girls find me attractive, if I'm socially weird and act awkward and scared, I can't proceed with what my looks brought me. The attraction from girls I personally started experiencing made me realize how wastefully I had been living. I started thinking "Why in the fuck am I fapping when I could be with all these amazing girls?". This thought really pushed me to quit masturbation for good. Ever since last summer I've been doing hard mode until I lose my virginity. I've made a lot of progression this year. All the super powers that come from NoFap are true in my case, but it wasn't just NoFap that contributed to them. Everything is based on my mental and will power. I've gotten rid of my social problems through building my confidence by doing the right things, mainly quitting masturbation. But just by quitting masturbation, you won't get all the results. You gotta work on your insecurities and build your mind. I've still got a lot to work on to get where I want. Don't settle for little. Get it all. Let's make 2019 insane.
     
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  9. Envoy-ofthe-End

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    So I've seen quite a bit of commenting about picking up hookers and here's my take on it.

    1st. - It's the wrong thing to do, even if it's legal because those woman are being used as objects, just like porn. Those woman are practically being used as human toilets.

    2nd. - The chance of getting an STD goes up, which IMO is not worth it because then you'll have to live the rest of your life enslaved to pills.

    3rd. - You always feel like shit after blowing your load on a hooker, always.

    All in all, porn and prostitution go hand in hand, avoid them both.
     
  10. Envoy-ofthe-End

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    You my friend are right, I'm using it more as a way to validate myself but I must say it's getting out of hand. *lol*

    Also, I'm aa heavy marijuana user right now and I'm trying to cut back as it makes me 300% more prone to relapsing. Right now I'm on anti-depressants and it's actually helping. I'm on a really low dose though.
     
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  11. Envoy-ofthe-End

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    This right here is my salvation dude. You have no idea how many top status girls I've let go of because of my mental issues regarding porn. Hell I've even gotten invited to parties and events from people I don't even know but avoid it completely because of my social anxiety. TBH I don't even know why my friends are alphas, but I'm grateful to them or I wouldn't have gotten a bit better. It's weird because people are sometimes awkward and stuff in my presence. Like I think if I don't fix this PROBLEM now I would rather commit suicide, like why be attractive ETC if you just waste it away? My sole purpose right now is to defeat this. NOW.
     
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  12. Envoy-ofthe-End

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    Your post is very true my dude. I feel like after 10 years of PMO my life has run at 1/2 capacity. Like, just IMAGINE when we're truly free... all the girls you want, money, influence, etc... NOT being dumbed down by some digital filth. Let's get OUR freedom bro. Right here, right now. 2019 is ours for the taking.
     
  13. weekbyweek

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    this is true , its a tough problem to beat but it is possible. Keep strong everyone
     
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  14. Envoy-ofthe-End

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    All the best for you man, just remember our looks don't last for long so we gotta defeat this ASAP. C'mon man you got this!
     
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  15. Romans 6 23

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    I used to be a daily user too. Oct 31st was the last day i used weed. and I live where its legal. If you can cut back maybe just smoke before bed. It definitely helps to resist pmo. I know many times if i knew i was gonna pmo I would go smoke to take it to the next level.

    If you ever need someone to talk to brother don't hesitate to message me
     
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  16. True...looking good on the outside and feeling good on the inside are two completely different things.
     
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  17. hey bro, I appreciate your message and much truth to it love to share another perspective.

    Just an observation that you are basing your value on how girls respond to you. This I suggest is not very wise and will continue to bring you suffring.

    Also consider that if you put the right product in front of the wrong audience there will be no sale, the same way you could be the perfect type for a certain kind of girl, you just have not been exposed to the right group setting where you can be fully YOU.

    I can tell you this from experience. I used to be insecure and shy, then I worked on myself for years learning techniques and became a womanizer and I became really "good" at meeting women at bars and clubs.

    But i found that i was never fulfilled. I had broken relationships and I wasted alot of time and energy. In the process nearly died and became addicted to a bunch of shit and almost got in to a gang!

    later I discovered spirituality, talks by Alan watts on youtube, and went to intense meditation retreats, got heavily into fitness etc, I discovered a whole new identity that previously I didn't know about.


    After my mini awaking, I noticed I had no attraction towards those old girls and they too had no attraction to be with someone like me.

    I literally stopped looking for girls and even though I would go through long periods of no sex and be mostly celibate and single - when I did get in relationships they were alot more deeper and profound than before.

    What I learned through this journey is that m life purpose is not to hack the process of having a successful sex life - because that is an illusion.

    The purpose is to evolve consciously and become Self Realized - that is the highest state of a human being to be fully enlightened.

    This is what Jesus, Buddha and Krishna, and all the other great ones were trying to convey to us. To stop seeking pleasure in things (or people), and evolve to find the source of happiness which is within.
     
  18. Just Rose

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    That's beautiful and helps me a lot, thank you :)
     
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  19. yosoy111

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    Hello man. You are doing the right thing when you try to get rid of this addiction. Of course weed is bad for nofap. However, are you sure you need antidepressants? I have never used them or need them, so my experience is zero. Couldn't they be the cause of your relapses?
     
  20. yosoy111

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    Don't give too much thinking to this girl hot girl who rejected you. You'll have many other opportunities. This girl arrived in your life in a bad time. Who knows, probably she wasn't worth it. You never know what is really behind a cute face. Keep the streak going on, even if right now is a short time.Be prepared for the next opportunity.
     
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