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The Lies I’ve Told Myself

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by ElderStatesman, Aug 25, 2020.

  1. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    Been there. Congrats on 496 days! Stay in touch. And stay safe.
     
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  2. Chefb87

    Chefb87 Fapstronaut

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    Thank you !!! Never thought I'd ever see a year let alone 500 days !
     
  3. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    LIES
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    10. This is a cool way to make up for lost opportunities for sexual satisfaction. My journey in online porn started with seeking pics from Playboy and the other mags of my youth. Graduated to vintage video clips. Perhaps I felt I was reliving my adolescence in a bigger fashion.

    I also felt I’d been left out. That other men had had much more “success” with the opposite sex than I had. Porn was an easy way for me to forget that and glut myself.

    I have serious issues with Playboy magazine. It sold my generation a myth that success was having the best clothes, a sports car, a ridiculously expensive stereo system and penthouse apartment. Being a bachelor, free for recreational encounters was the lifestyle. Marriage, responsibility, commitment, family, the complexity of genuine human relationships, or the idea of contributing to the life of your community were nowhere to be found in those pages. And, of course, once you had a cool enough job to pay for all those aforementioned material goods, the women would be the most beautiful you had ever encountered!

    But no one put a gun to my head and forced me to buy into that crap. I just did. My fault. Don’t blame Hugh Hefner. All he did was cash the check.

    My generation survived (I guess.) the “Sexual Revolution” of the Sixties. What it gave me was the feeing I’ve described above. “Hey, if everyone’s all of a sudden f*cking like rabbits (Bunnies!), where’s mine?”

    I think more current generations have even tougher challenges because of the easy availability of huge amounts of porn, and the effects of excessive use of it in your formative years. As I’ve said, my history leaves me unqualified to render advice. If I can share, at least, perspective with younger addicts in recovery here, I will try do so. Don’t know if I can help anyone, but even just trying to contribute helps me. Just as hearing your stories helps me.

    Day 5 is Here
    One Day at a Time
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2020
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  4. outkasted

    outkasted Fapstronaut

    1. I need something to take the edge off due to Corona/long work hours/stress/whatever convenient excuse arises
    Well as soon as that excuse doesn't work what then? The reality is at the time I just wanted to beat off so I came up with a convenient excuse.

    2. I can't quit. I'm too addicted. So might as well.
    The biggest rewards are often the most difficult to attain. Quitting is hard, but in the end, the reward will be well worth the temporary pain at this moment.

    3. Well I struck out with all the women I talked to last night so might as well fire up the porn.
    What really happened is that I didn't give it my all when talking to those women because I knew I had porn as a backup, so I was kind of like riding a bike with the training wheels still on. You have take them off at some point.

    4. If I don't jerk I can't focus.
    I still struggle with this, and I haven't yet found an answer. I guess the lack of focus is offset by porn time wasting.

    5. I feel like crap. I need my fix.
    That is the addict talking. Get up, take a shower, eat something healthy, go for a walk.

    6. I'm bored so...
    There are always things to do. Read a book, start a project, clean something, take an online class, exercise, cook a new dish.

    7. I need to jerk so I can fall asleep.
    I don't have an answer for this either... sigh. My sleep patterns are in tatters at the moment honestly. However I've edged for hours in the middle of the night to porn too, maybe I just have sleep issues in general...

    8. But it feels so good!
    What would feel even better is to connect with a woman in real life and share an intimate moment with her. 15 seconds of pleasure is not worth the 2 plus hours I wasted trying to find the perfect porn and the feeling afterwards of having wasted all of that time.

    9. I can quit tomorrow, I'll quit later this week, just one more hit and then I'll stop!
    No quit now. That one hit will lead to another, and then another, and there you have a porn bender. Putting off progress is not the way to go.

    10. Just a peek, it's harmless.
    Well peaking leads to a hard on which leads to a jerk and the next thing you know 2 hours have passed and you're thinking to yourself WTF did I just do?

    11. I don't have a woman so...
    Well porn is definitely not helping in that regard, that's for sure. Plus porn might skew the way you see women, it might cause awkwardness around women, which also won't help.
     
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  5. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    Lies
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    11. “I can’t quit.” Interesting. Maybe hadn’t thought of this as a lie before. The others are excuses, denial, rationalization. This one is just flat out helplessness.

    When I’m acting out I’m thinking “This is so much fun, I don’t want to quit.” When I avoid going sober I’m thinking “What’s the point? I won’t last.” Now in abstaining, I think “Okay, I made it a week. But going a year...?”

    All because I believe I can’t quit. Which is a lie. The painful truth is “I won’t quit.”

    “Can’t” is believing you don’t have any ability or choice. “Won’t” is that you make the choice not to.

    I have the choice. That’s the truth.

    Week 2 is here.
    One week at a time
    One day at a time
     
  6. LukeReboot

    LukeReboot New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you so much for your posts. It gives me the strenght to go further... Today is really tough for me because I have strong urges (and it is still day 5) but reading you is a good reminder to say NO to PMO and to convince myself that I can overcome this addiction! Thanks
     
  7. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    Thanks, LukeReboot. We can do this.
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2020
  8. onlyhere41reason

    onlyhere41reason Fapstronaut

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    'I'll just have a look but won't touch myself'
    This was/is my largest issue. I created this routine of looking at porn EVERY SINGLE DAY. This was regardless of whether I felt horny or not. I could literally look at porn for hours through the day until I couldn't just watch and had to relieve myself. It's honestly sad that I never fully accepted how badly PMO had ruined my life.

    'Everyone does it'
    It is generally accepted that guys are all horn dogs who watch porn and masturbate. I used this as an excuse to let my addiction progress further and further. The truth is, porn may be bad, but it can be worse for certain people (me, and most of us in this forum). Take alcohol for example. Although loads of people drink it, only CERTAIN people develop an addiction. Some people are just more susceptible to developing certain addictions.

    'One more day, week, month'
    For years now I have tried to give PMO a deadline. 'I'll just PMO this week and I'll be done with it forever'. Don't fool yourself with this. It is just an endless viscous cycle. It is better to just stop and go cold turkey.
     
  9. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    Thanks for posting, onlyhere41reason. “Everybody does it,” is the normalization of porn use. One set of statistics showed 40 million in the U.S. using porn “regularly.” Interestingly, the same set classified 200,000 of them as “addicted,” which is only .5%. I find that estimate very low, especially when considering amount of time spent, downloads, use at work and $$ spent that the study indicated.

    We may find, in the end, that more people have a porn problem than a drinking problem.

    Thanks again. Stay in touch. And stay safe.
     
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  10. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    Lies
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    11. This isn’t internet porn, so a quick look won’t hurt. Actually addressed this in my #5 previously posted, but worth further examination. When off the internet, I lied to myself that I could watch nude scenes in a movie. What compounded the lie was I actually knew it was p-sub but watched anyway.
     
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  11. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    LIES
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    12. I’m cured. Actually been thinking the past few days that, since I’m almost 2 months sober, it would be okay to take a quick look “just out of curiosity” at a couple of vids I fapped to just before quitting.

    Sure, right. Tell yourself you “just wanted to see how you’d feel about seeing it,” “just thought I’d see if it wouldn’t have the same effect on me as before.”

    Here’s a great one: Just wanted to prove to myself I could look at porn and walk away from it. (!!!)
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2020
  12. Psalm27:1my light

    Psalm27:1my light Fapstronaut

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    Lies I’ve told myself....
    He loves me and doesn’t want to hurt me .
    He just doesn’t see his selfishness, doesn’t understand.
    He has a lower libido than I do, he’s too tired from work.
    I’m too needy
    I’m too demanding
    I expect too much
    This time he’s telling me the truth
    He wouldn’t lie again after seeing how badly it hurt me last time
    He’s a really good husband most of the time, you’re crazy to divorce over porn.
    I’m the one he wants
    This time will be different, because he’s really trying
    I’m too selfish,
    Truthfully
    Neediness? I’m one of the least needy persons there is. I asked for normal connection in a marriage
    Demanding? Lol I occasionally asked for help with things I could not physically do and nothing more.
    Expect too much? Truthfulness and faithfulness and open communication. Damn what high expectations in a marriage.
    He wouldn’t lie to me? One lie proves he will lie to me.
    Doesn’t want to hurt me? He chooses to hurt me when he relapses and lies.
    He loves me.... he doesn’t even like himself , how can he love me.
    Divorcing over porn, no it’s unfaithfulness, dishonesty, selfishness, neglect, abandonment all the characteristics that cone with addiction.
     
  13. debrastele

    debrastele New Fapstronaut

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    Great thread! Thanks guys!
     
  14. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    LIES
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    13. This time I can get away with it.
    Relates to previous lies about thinking you can just take a “quick look” or something is “really not porn.”

    See, in my sobriety (Won’t call it a “streak.” I’ll get to that in a moment.), I’ve been thinking I can do some of that sh*t and it won’t lead to relapse. What’s the point? Wasting time and getting worked up. Lead to relapse? Hey, you can’t assume it will, right? Yeah, right. Maybe the right question is: How can you assume it won’t? Stick with one day at a time.

    So don’t believe because you’ve been sober a while you’re invincible. Which leads me to my thoughts on “streak” as in a stretch of time you’re sober. Well, that’s not good enough. As I’ve stated previously, the amount of time I need has a different name. It’s called forever. Yes, thinking of a specific amount of time can give you a goal you can feel is attainable, if that’s what you need. But a big question is what you do the next day.

    I try not to be superstitious, but since this is lie #13, maybe I can put a positive spin on that by telling myself it’s really important.
     
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  15. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    LIE #ONE GAZILLION AND A HALF:

    I can get away with this.
    Yeah, still there four months later! Feels like longer than that since I was last here and wrote that exact same thing. It's good to come back here, see it, and tell myself "Wow, you really thought you've been okay, dude, still looking at sh*t and thinking you can get away with it just because you're not jerking off."

    Then I come here and say "Holy, shit. I myself wrote what a big lie that is and here I am telling it to myself." Did I decide it was okay to blow off my own convictions and f*ck around with a match around gasoline?

    Go figure. In some ways maybe every day is day one. But I'm cutting myself a break (Is that a lie, too? Well, that's maybe another story.) because no jerking off, no orgasms, staying faithful to my wife, living a good life in spite of Covid and other bullsh*t.

    I've been away, but should probably get back here more, if nothing else but to get off on reading my own past screeds and also to get my thoughts out again. So this gets into getting back to My Journal as opposed to reflecting on the lies I'm telling myself.

    But this is definitely a big one and pernicious. If you really f*ck up, you know it and maybe that helps you call out the lies you told yourself as you did it. This other stuff, though, where you think you're "not really up to something all that bad" is the snake lying in the grass where you can't see it. Or, more likely, lie to yourself that it's not really a snake, or tell yourself whatever crock that let's you slide, slide, slide the wrong way just because you can't give it up, or you're so bored or whatever nonsense you let slither into your brain.

    Well enough of letting myself off the hook just because "Hey, we're all human," or whatever. An interesting lie lying (ha!) in there somewhere, too.

    Wake up call: Day 235 don't mean sh*t if you're still doing sh*t. Day 236 is there for you if you want it. So is Day 0. Your decision, no one else's. Think about it. Deal with it.
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2021
  16. Simorgh

    Simorgh Fapstronaut

    The biggest lie I told myself:

    I have to empty myself. The sperm bladder needs emptying, it's natural. And I can only empty it properly using porn.

    Yeah, right ...... LOL. What a dumbfuck I was.

    Totally brainwashed by a pornified society

    I'm breaking free from the shackles... NU!
     
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  17. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    14. I’ve proven I can go 280 days. So what if I f*ck up now?

    Yeah, that’s superb. I’ve actually spouted off about it a lot already. The biggest idiot brain illogic ever: I haven’t relapsed so it’s okay if I relapse.

    Also dealing with one of the lies I posted previously about feeling I can’t quit, I’ve had enough, that I need to look at erotica.

    The truth is that I can, it’s just that I want to make the choice to relapse.

     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2021
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  18. ElderStatesman

    ElderStatesman Fapstronaut

    15. This isn’t relapse. Edging while fantasizing, looking at sexy YouTube videos, looking at drawings, then supposedly “softcore” images, graduating to harder and harder stuff while telling myself it’s not actually PMO. Then doing PMO but not actually ejaculating while online.

    Guess what? That’s relapse. And if you can convince yourself some of the first stuff isn’t, you’re only on the way to a full relapse anyway, so what’s the point?
     
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2021
  19. My biggest lie were always:
    1. Today will be the last time I will ever do PMO.
    2. I need to work, I cant continue feeling this anxiety, I need to do PMO.
    Fortunately after many years of try and fail, I have reached my longest NOPAP days.

    Interesting fact: My 90 days day will match my son's 2nd birthday.
     
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  20. "Watching porn is normal, isn't it?"
     

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