The longer I go, the more porn I want

I'm in the same boat with you brother.

I thought quitting porn would be easy and the hard thing to stop would be MO, but after 20 something days (for me) it's been far harder to avoid porn than MO. I feel my body, my brain NEEDS porn. This is what I believe is my sign of addiction.

As for advice, just do anything to distract yourself. Perhaps focus on how crappy you might feel after PMO. Go somewhere you can't watch porn. Remind yourself that you have to break your streak if you do.

Stay strong.

 

I can't understand. They are just changing pictures in front of your eyes. If you don't touching the penis, what you getting by just watching them?

 

What Apple Coke and Seth are dealing with is common and your bodies' natural response to withdrawl. (keeping in mind ymmv- your mileage may vary- EVERY withdrawl is different)

To answer your question, however- in some cases, you're battling both a physical and psychological battle in your brain to get the dopamine effect. Because of that- Porn is not just porn. It's ANY sexual imagery that sets off dopamine release. Porn is seeing it, watching it, perceiving it, hearing it, thinking of it, imagining it, remembering it. It is having an orgasm while thinking of it, whether with a partner or during MO. It is using porn substitutes like chat rooms or soft core imagery just to trigger a dopamine release.

That's what makes this disease so vile and eradicating it so difficult. It gets into your innermost thoughts and desires and twists them against you. It becomes a leach in your brain and in your life.

That's why you need to associate something REALLY painful to watching it. Imagine finding YOUR daughter, wife, mother, son, etc IN one of the pictures. Imagine being arrested for rape and incarcerated - destroying your life, family, loved ones. Imagine the people who create these movies/ pictures using money (that you helped them to make whether you paide for your 'service' or not), to buy drugs that kill your best friend. Make the Pain personal and determine yourself to RID yourself of the scourge!

With the urges- internalize them. Close your eyes, breathe deeply, clear your mind and just let the energy go internally instead of external with MO and definitely PMO. Do Exercise- you lose both desire and 'capability' to MO if your blood flow is focussed on other muscles. Recognize the trigger moments for what they are and WALK AWAY- especially walk away from the source.

Just some quick thoughts but Seth and Apple-- GREAT JOB-- Keep at it!

 

Appreciate the post LustFree! Just to add: Our brains are wired to release dopamine when we have sex (with a real person). Our nature of our bodies want reproduction so our brains will reward the body for reproducing and having sex. With porn, we are REPLACING that with even more dopamine (because of the coolidge effect, we can see 100 new "partners" in minutes) so we rewire our brains to associate porn with reproducing. That's why we need porn.

 

But in reality there are hundreds of hot chicks out there. Their bodies and body language make me hornier than many types of porn. If I to follow your logic, I have stay at home to avoid seeing them. The society is pornographic and mass media using your dopamine mechanism to sell you anything. So if you want to clear yourself even from "soft core imagery", you going to have hard time doing that. If you not a monk of course.

 

Yes, you are absolutely correct- we're completely inundated from EVERY angle. Well, you touch on ONE angle where we would NOT- as a Monk. No, I'm not a Monk and have no desire to become one, however- their inner peace comes from a concept of being in a constant state of prayer. You can use THAT thought to actually overcome the times when you're inundated. When you're seeing all the 'hot chicks/ imagery etc' realize that's your mind wandering away. Catch that moment and bring THAT energy back to you. The Monks would do it in prayer. Others use meditation, or a quick distraction. I actually made a post similar to this comment in the Catholic group the other day. By making a habit of additional prayer both for myself AND the other person, I learned to manage MORE and MORE thoughts and 'personal actions' internally.

Yes, the real source, then- is how you percieve and treat people. By eliminating porn, PMO and MO, not only do you become a better MAN but by changing the way you view people and treat them regardless of how 'hot or not'. When you replace the simple horny desire of Lust with a heart of love, respect, healthy attitudes and outlooks toward others and their talents, you become a better overall PERSON. Moving to this state completely reverses course. Ultimaately, for you single men looking to meet the woman of your dreams- this helps to bring you perfectly in tune with yourself and the person you're communicating with.

 

Unrelated, but I think Anonymous has my favorite quote on this entire NoFap site:

 

Just remember that cravings are fleeting. Be mindful of them arising, floating in your mind, then disappearing. Over time, your ability to do this will become automatic, given that any repeated activity will cause your brain to rewire additional circuits over time which decrease the amount of conscious effort required to perform it.

But also remember that the cravings themselves will become less and less intense, as the Delta Fos-B disappears from those pathways. There is hope; stay strong comrade. It will get better, I promise.

 

Apple c0ke, I've written on this forum a lot about porn, and as someone in the opposite boat from you (MO is temping me, P is not), perhaps I have something to add. It's not that I didn't like porn. Loved it. Knew everything there was to know about it. Collected and organized gigs and gigs of it. But I really have no desire for it these past two weeks.

I think I just had a deep realization that it was a poor substitute for what was outside my door. Do I live in a neighborhood full of models? No, but real people are much, much more exciting in the long run, the attraction more profound. And I think I realized it was an either-or situation. Either porn or a real partner, nothing in between.

I supposedly have a personality type that can walk away from relationships and not look back, and maybe that's why two weeks out I can barely remember the names of some of my favorite porn stars. But they never knew my name, so what do it care? Just pixels on a screen ....