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Day 19. III.

As usual at night my energy rises. I would like to pmo now very much. I keep remembering this erotic video, which I saw 19 days ago. It is a very fantastic video. I would like to see it very much at least one more time. I know where it is and I know how to reach it. I am very tempted. Usually I am worried that I don't remember stuff, but I would like to forget this time.

Do you know any techniques how to forget stuff? Well, you'll say, don't think about it and you'll forget. Doesn't work, when video is such a fantastic and brains is pushing it into my minds every day. I was just eating berries and I remembered it. Why would I remember it now?

I know that learning new things for a long while will help me a bit to forget ero-stuff, but I would like to do something quicker.

:emoji_palm_tree:

Remember that once you watch it you will want another one, our brain loves to jump from one girl to the other, to one scene to the other.

It's a trick, think brother, confront yourself, and you will see clear enough to negate a few minutes of pleasure in exchange for days or months of pain. Think brother!

You will get passed this if you really want to, ask God for help if you can.
 
Trigger Plan - Coming up on 2 weeks in which I have had minimal to no urges due to flatline & low low dopamine - but as Scandanavian Bob says Week 3 is the hyper sensitive neural pathways week, in that if a trigger hits, the neural pathways light up like never before and the urges can be fierce ( I guess due to the fact that the body and mind are tired of such chronically low dopamine levels ). This is a trigger plan I did in November, which I am dusting down again.

Pre urges:
  • Memories - think of something else, something that interests me
  • Mental pressure to peek, fish or act out (while not an actual urge) - Read up on the harm of PMO - Post to this forum
  • Drudgery in Work - do a diff task for awhile - take a break - get some fresh air - do some breathing exercises - play some music - chat a friend or colleague - break the task into manageable chunks - just do 2 mins more
  • Being rejected or ghosted by a colleague or friend - nip any self pity in the bud - go for a walk in nature - observe the animals and birds
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly
Triggers
  • Trigger content being talked about in work - tune out, change the subject, get back to work
  • Flirting or being flirted with in work - be kind, but get out of the situation
  • Getting a text or chat with trigger content - delete - get some fresh air - stay away from electronics as much as possible the rest of that day or night
  • Seeing a trigger scene on a film or TV - Ideally this should not happen as I am committed to a full detox for 90 days but if it does then divert the eyes, switch off, skip past it, get away from electronics
  • Tired/ Exhausted at end of day - do not lean on the devices to relax, go for a walk, fresh air, or if too tired read a book or even a comic if I just want something light, wind down nice and easy, get to bed early and look forward to good night's sleep
  • Trigger content comes up in searches etc... - have blockers on, and if something still comes up, turn it off and turn away - flee from this like it was the plague - go for a walk
  • Study the harm of PMO
  • Keep posting here
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly
Urges
If the urges come on strong here is a list of stuff I can use:
  • Post here asap
  • Look to do some activity for at least an hour
  • Watch a non trigger movie - this takes my mind to another place
  • Play a game, preferably a board game
  • Read an absorbing book, novel, comic
  • Go for a run (preferably trail run in nature)
  • Go for a cycle
  • Go for an open water swim
  • Do a workout - but I have found with physical training you have to put in double the effort, really break into a good sweat because only half doing the workout can make the urges worse
  • Book a physio, chiropractor or massage therapist, or just go nuts on the foam roller & tennis ball
  • Call up a friend(s) or family and arrange to meet up - remember that this meeting will be terrible and will leave an awful impression on your friend (s) if you relapse beforehand
  • Plan to get to bed early, and best is have a planned meeting early the next morning (e.g. a workout or jog) so you are motivated to go to bed early
  • Keep up the breathing exercises, but I find, when the urges come on, something more physical really helps
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly

In the case I've peeked or worse still fished
  • Treat it like a mini relapse
  • Do the plane crash post mortem
  • Get really really serious with yourself - what the fuck are you doing!
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly
  • Watch the freedom fight video on relapsing
  • Realise I just need get get trigger free days between me and that last peek
  • Realise the delta fos b highways will be screaming for action
    • Man up to these urges and face the bastards down
    • This is the time for chest beating, really really go into battle mode
  • Get out as much as possible
  • Meet people as much as possible
  • And if this is not possible then fill the days with activities or movies anything to take the mind off the trigger
  • Post here
  • Go for a very long hike, long run, long cycle - like get out for 3-4 hours min
  • Ask for help
  • Pray hard on hands and knees please St. Michael defend us !
Dusting down Trigger plan again:
Pre urges:
  • Memories - think of something else, something that interests me
  • Mental pressure to peek, fish or act out (while not an actual urge) - Read up on the harm of PMO - Post to this forum
  • Drudgery in Work - do a diff task for awhile - take a break - get some fresh air - do some breathing exercises - play some music - chat a friend or colleague - break the task into manageable chunks - just do 2 mins more
  • Being rejected or ghosted by a colleague or friend - nip any self pity in the bud - go for a walk in nature - observe the animals and birds
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly
  • Move these thoughts to the side and let the air and light in - stop and take notice of how non-lust feels - how in control stable and content you are in this state
Triggers
  • Trigger content being talked about in work - tune out, change the subject, get back to work
  • Flirting or being flirted with in work - be kind, but get out of the situation
  • Getting a text or chat with trigger content - delete - get some fresh air - stay away from electronics as much as possible the rest of that day or night
  • Seeing a trigger scene on a film or TV - Ideally this should not happen as I am committed to a full detox for 90 days but if it does then divert the eyes, switch off, skip past it, get away from electronics
  • Tired/ Exhausted at end of day - do not lean on the devices to relax, go for a walk, fresh air, or if too tired read a book or even a comic if I just want something light, wind down nice and easy, get to bed early and look forward to good night's sleep
  • Trigger content comes up in searches etc... - have blockers on, and if something still comes up, turn it off and turn away - flee from this like it was the plague - go for a walk
  • Study the harm of PMO
  • Keep posting here
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly
Urges
If the urges come on strong here is a list of stuff I can use:
  • Post here asap
  • Look to do some activity for at least an hour
  • Watch a non trigger movie - this takes my mind to another place
  • Play a game, preferably a board game
  • Read an absorbing book, novel, comic
  • Go for a run (preferably trail run in nature)
  • Go for a cycle
  • Go for an open water swim
  • Do a workout - but I have found with physical training you have to put in double the effort, really break into a good sweat because only half doing the workout can make the urges worse
  • Book a physio, chiropractor or massage therapist, or just go nuts on the foam roller & tennis ball
  • Call up a friend(s) or family and arrange to meet up - remember that this meeting will be terrible and will leave an awful impression on your friend (s) if you relapse beforehand
  • Plan to get to bed early, and best is have a planned meeting early the next morning (e.g. a workout or jog) so you are motivated to go to bed early
  • Keep up the breathing exercises, but I find, when the urges come on, something more physical really helps
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly

In the case I've peeked or worse still fished
  • Treat it like a mini relapse
  • Do the plane crash post mortem
  • Get really really serious with yourself - what the fuck are you doing!
  • Realise this time will pass and I will be strong again shortly
  • Watch the freedom fight video on relapsing
  • Realise I just need get get trigger free days between me and that last peek
  • Realise the delta fos b highways will be screaming for action
    • Man up to these urges and face the bastards down
    • This is the time for chest beating, really really go into battle mode
  • Get out as much as possible
  • Meet people as much as possible
  • And if this is not possible then fill the days with activities or movies anything to take the mind off the trigger
  • Post here
  • Go for a very long hike, long run, long cycle - like get out for 3-4 hours min
  • Ask for help
  • Pray hard on hands and knees please St. Michael defend us !
 
Day 20. II.

Oh wow, it's evolving quick. I almost did it few seconds ago. I almost shut down the blockers. It would be pain to reinstate them, but I felt "it would be worth it". I think I really lack basic honour and honesty. How can I one minute write pompastic messages about working on my habits and not giving up, and then, other minute, think about pmo as real possibility?

:emoji_palm_tree:
You got this brother. Stay strong. Remember that a relapse won’t actually make you feel better… it will make you feel worse. Think about how you will
Feel after you watch this video you are thinking about. It’s not worth it.
 
Remember that once you watch it you will want another one, our brain loves to jump from one girl to the other, to one scene to the other.

It's a trick, think brother, confront yourself, and you will see clear enough to negate a few minutes of pleasure in exchange for days or months of pain. Think brother!

You will get passed this if you really want to, ask God for help if you can.

You are completely right. I am thinking now that I would watch and pmo only once. But it's clearly not truth. I would do it again and again and again until it's 15 pmo in one month. If you saw my calendars, pmo rarely walks alone for me.

Thanks for support! :emoji_guardsman:
 
Day 0 starting over.

Well what can I say, disappointing really. Not beating up myself too much cause at least I made it past a week which I haven't done in a long time. I realize now one of the mistakes I've been making is counting the days I've not PMO when I should be making the days count!

According to an article I found quote, "counting the days will most likely increase your likelihood of relapse because it means you’re always thinking about your addiction and as a result you’ll get tempting thoughts more often." I couldn't agree more. The more I think about the days of not doing PMO, the more I think about the addiction itself and the temptation. So as of now, I will reduce my time in the NoFap forums and mostly coming in just to check in. I will now also try to go out and exercise more often even tho a lot of the times I need to be on my laptop to finish college work and assignments. I need to start making the days count as much as possible.

Best of luck to us all and stay strong!
 
Checking in Fellowship friends!

115 Days Free of PMO.

A busy day ahead, what in preparation of next week. I will make the most of it and I am grateful. I got my total testosterone level yesterday and I'm happy to report it has increased by 20% since last year. It's not where I want it to be, but i'm on track and intend to continue on the same path. Still awaiting free and bioavailable levels of T.

"The best years of your life are the ones in which you decide your problems are your own. You do not blame them on your mother, the ecology, or the president. You realize that you control your own destiny." -Albert Ellis

Stay Strong!

115 days – At the Cross-roads, the point in Ithilien where the Harad-Road is crossed by the east-west road, you contemplate the statue of a king now beheaded by the cruel forces of PMO. Seeing the fallen head gives you hope for nature crowned it with flowers.

@Baki Hanma Then let us both meet the challenge head on, overcome and grow from it brother.

@icebreaker p Thank you brother and right back at you!

@Repression Rise and rise again, until sheeps become lions.

@Kairose I'm glad to hear you have closed off those accounts and I look forward to hearing about your growth in this next chapter of your life.

@Paul S. Try your best my brother, it isn't an easy ask to avoid isolation but I can promise you, that you will feel better doing so.

@PeaceOnEarth108 Good effort brother, keep at it!

@Ready to Stop Well done on addressing a potential trigger brother.

@Lone Skeleton Exactly brother, making the days count is what matters the most. Just keep rising and improving. Do not bash yourself for the relapse, this can only lead you to binge.
 
Day 8 ! I completed most of my things mentioned yesterday. Today I am going to work on 2 lessons of biology for my upcoming test as I plan to top it this time. Then I might do the remaining tomorrow and I will wake up early tomorrow i.e. at 6:30 am. Thankyou guys for support and accountability. I am going NNN this time. Had a few urges today but all the adult content is banned on my devices. So I had no chance of relapsing.
 
You're welcome, Paul, and thank you too, for your detailed and thoughtful reaction. It's very much appreciated!
These are good. But self pity (at least empathy) is very ok. Life is often difficult and challenging. I noticed that I go longest in my streaks when I am honest with my emotions. Lying is never good, I think. I will write long post about dealing with emotions someday. Because I think from several sentences you may misunderstand me and laught at me.
I won't argue about that. Thank you for your insights. And nobody's laughing at you!

I am not sure I understand the logics behind this completely. If you abstain from pornographies and erotic stuffs for a while, won't brain generate abnormal amounts of dopamine when seeing simpleton girls. I had to block sports section on news sites, if you know what I mean. I never thought I will have to do this. I was never much interested in that. I am not sure is this is due to more receptors, or brain sending more dopamins, so that I would keep "reproducing".
Ok, let's keep reproduction out of this for a moment. Because dopamine goes beyond sex and reproduction. It is a hormon that drive your actions, motivate you to do stuff. It's part of the reward center, although not it's only part (there are other hormones involved too, like serotonin for example).

One example for the functioning of dopamine would be: you wake up in the morning, hungry. You're motivated to go in the kitchen and look in the fridge. Empty. Then you're motivated to go get some food. Maybe you buy it in the supermarket. The drive to do all this is triggered by the release of dopamine. Finally you have your groceries and you have breakfast. Now the dopamine spikes because you achieved your goal plus you fill your empty stomach.

What happens during pmo? Because the primitive brain functions can't differentiate between real mates and real sex and the fake of it which is porn, it releases extreme amounts of dopamine. Compared to working, exercising, looking for real mates this is a ritual of effortless instant gratification. But from the brains perspective (and also our own I would argue) pmo is nevertheless a hyperactive state, we click, we hunt, we engage and we trigger all those chemical release. It may start with the goal "look up model A" and the implicite goal of self-stimulating to O. But on the way we find many more goals (and rewards!) and the hunt goes on and on ...
Finally we end up dopamine-depleted (never zero but too low) because this hormon is a non-infinite yet renewable ressource.

The other problem is that these high dopamine spikes may create not only a momentary low (until it's replenished) but over time lower our base-level of dopamine which equals low drive, bad moods and other problems. (Plus this reduction of dopamine receptors but I don't understand really why and when. The good news here is: they can come back).

This can happen to the porn addict or to the drug addicts. But even to healthy people with very exiting lives, full of adventures (at least then it's worth it).

I think most of us rather aim for an exiting life then one without surprises. But it's good to understand these mechanism, for example that we can have a crash after we've achieved something big or had a lot of exitement. Because our intuition is rather than we get depressed because of a life too boring and without enough exitement. But (imho) when we want to do a lot of tedious work or learning over a longer period of time, maybe it's a good idea to cut all the sources of high dopamine release short for a while.

The withdrawal of high dopamine spikes through reliable sources of course creates withdrawal symptoms. So when your brain suddenly switches from porn to clothed girls from the sport channel, it's actually a good sign. Your reaction to block the sports section was the right one, in my opinion.
What you want is an uncoupling from your reward system to females on a screen and a re-coupling to "the real thing". Well at least in parts, because since we will continue to watch people on screens we will continue to feel aroused sometimes by some of them, but that's of course completely natural.

So while blocking and avoiding is a good tool for us that we should use, at some point we have to get used to our reactions and deal with. Of course we don't look at porn to see if we still have a brain that wants unnatural high and effortless dopamine kicks and if we still NOT have the sheer willpower to hold it back ;) ;)
But all the more natural or unavoidable stimula are learning material for us. It's a long process :)
 
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Day 9
I'm sick. Caught a cold.

Guys, I need advice please.
Tomorrow I'll get my wlan back. I feel capable of avoiding a relapse. I did a lot of soul searching in the last days and I know my reasons. However I'm aware of all those urges that also are there.
But the question is: what do I when I have it back and what do I use it for ?
Since I'm sick, it would make sense to just entertain myself with movies and things like that. As for prevention I should never use my devices in the bedroom or on the toilet and always keep curtains open. But I'm just not sure, is it a good idea to indulge into entertainment on the weekend. Are there better options. Maybe mix pleasure with doing some chores?
Much work or effort is out of the question, anyway. As long as I'm really sick.
 
Day 9
I'm sick. Caught a cold.

Guys, I need advice please.
Tomorrow I'll get my wlan back. I feel capable of avoiding a relapse. I did a lot of soul searching in the last days and I know my reasons. However I'm aware of all those urges that also are there.
But the question is: what do I when I have it back and what do I use it for ?
Since I'm sick, it would make sense to just entertain myself with movies and things like that. As for prevention I should never use my devices in the bedroom or on the toilet and always keep curtains open. But I'm just not sure, is it a good idea to indulge into entertainment on the weekend. Are there better options. Maybe mix pleasure with doing some chores?
Much work or effort is out of the question, anyway. As long as I'm really sick.

Man if I knew how to not watch porn I would have stopped it long time ago. I just know that this addiction is very strong and must not be underestimated. It can overwelm us even if we feel very safe.

And I know that my porn consumption is coupled to video games or binge watching. In the past I was just alternating between these three and sleep, sometimes for whole weeks. Spending too much time with electronic devices will cause a relapse, definitively.

So my advice is: Be careful! Don't lose your 9 days!
 
Day 9
I'm sick. Caught a cold.

Guys, I need advice please.
Tomorrow I'll get my wlan back. I feel capable of avoiding a relapse. I did a lot of soul searching in the last days and I know my reasons. However I'm aware of all those urges that also are there.
But the question is: what do I when I have it back and what do I use it for ?
Since I'm sick, it would make sense to just entertain myself with movies and things like that. As for prevention I should never use my devices in the bedroom or on the toilet and always keep curtains open. But I'm just not sure, is it a good idea to indulge into entertainment on the weekend. Are there better options. Maybe mix pleasure with doing some chores?
Much work or effort is out of the question, anyway. As long as I'm really sick.

My advice would be same as I give to myself. Look at this as OPPORTUNITY to get stronger and heal (from pmo and cold :)). It changes whole perspective for the brains. Instead of wallowing in negative emotions of feeling at risk, feeling bored, feeling urges, you will wallow in good emotions such as hope of healing, letting go of the past and looking to the future with optimizm, feeling well-challenged etc.

If you see that this doesn't work. Let emotions be as they are. If you feel down, then just sleep around (if you sick that's also a priority), if you feel irritated due to virus tomorrow, then smash the cup into the wall or pound electric radiator, if you feel sad or frustrated, then cry... Learn to let your emotions out in other ways. Not only through pmo.

But as @PeaceOnEarth108 said we are not the ones to give tangible advice. If I knew what I was doing, I would be free for 732 days (not just 20 as now). I joined the forums first time 2020 November 2.
 
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