The No Screen Challenge

Discussion in 'Events & Challenges' started by Force Majeure, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. TangoTao

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    basically yes - for couple of weeks i kept strict regiment of all food done and electronic off by 6pm then after by 4pm but then at some point i lost the track of it - but also i just needed to be using the computer for my creative process at some odd hours - and when your inspiration comes... you cannot schedule enthusiasm - so its a tricky balance to find, but i want to get back to just spend more time off screen at some times(food also) frames, i got to perform at my best and cannot disappoint my muses when they come i also want to implement some form of polyphasic sleeping to facilitate all that... i want to implement some schedual but it rather gonna be in experimental phase for a while and then it will likely only last only for some time till i'll have to abandon it - but i guess that's the way of Tao....
     
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    Ok, now I understand you completely. You're in a similar position I was in, before I got kids! At that time, I hacked my sleep and was up for very long time periods. I would let my creativity flow for as long as it wanted, it was no strange for me to spend 38 hours in a lab before I decided to go home. I wanted to complete things before I would call it a day and so the clock was a slave to me, not the other way around.

    Then came the kids and I got forced into a completely new way of living - instead of being up the whole nights I had to conform to a normal 24-hour schedule where I would go up the same time every day. I tried to hack the sleep anyway, by going to bed very late and then drink more coffee the day after... Then after a few years and after I had joined this community I started The No Screen Challenge and decided to try for a period of time to NOT hack the sleep. Suddenly I realised my life was transforming into something completely different. Instead of letting everything flow the first day, just to get a terrible sleep and have a lousy day afterwards, I started to live a life where a lot more hours in total felt good. In the beginning it felt a bit sad to kill the flow of creativity and just stop with what I was doing but then when I felt how good I slept the coming night I quickly got a nice reward.

    That said, I started living a stable life with a little creativity every day instead of binging to creativity every once in a while... I also started enjoy everything else in a good way without feeling extremely tired several days a week. This was a fantastic change to me, my mood got better, my workout got better, my body felt healthier and so on. I started to appreciate early mornings and I started to go up earlier than my wife - something that hadn't happened for all the years we've known each other (~20 years). The only thing I had to do to make this change was to stop using phone and computer at a certain time and everything else would follow.

    If you think your journey could be similar to mine, I would recommend you to at least try for 30 days and feel the change. If you, after 30 days, still think this challenge isn't for you, then just stop and get yourself a clap on the shoulder - you just completed a 30-day challenge. If you think it did a hell of a lot of improvement to your life, consider taking it again :) You don't have to go for an insanely early time like 6 pm or so, just go for anything that will make you get to bed the same time every day. I had 22:25 as my deadline for a year or so, then I moved it to 22:00.

    :):):)
     
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    I've had a similar experience. For me, creative work is like a marathon: finishing something requires me to stay productive over the course of months, sometimes years. In the moment, it can feel tempting to try to finish up a component of the larger whole by "sprinting." But just as that's an ineffective way to run a marathon, for me, it was an ineffective way to get things done. By becoming more patient, and understanding that I'll get things done in their proper time, by working during the day, then leaving work behind and sleeping, I can stay at a higher level of focus and so get more done over the long run. This challenge has helped me stick to that and I've noticed I haven't gotten burned out or sick when, usually, stress and sleep deprivation would have caused both.

    That's my experience. Many great thinkers and writers worked similarly: consistently, at the same times every day, and then taking breaks and sleeping well.

    I know you're into the paleo diet. Extend that logic beyond food. How hard and how much were our paleolithic ancestors working? How much leisure time did they have? How much and how regularly were they sleeping?

    Anyway, I don't want to "debate." I just offer some food for thought. There is research on productivity and working consistently for shorter stretches vs. binging on work for longer stretches. That could be something to look into, with the caveat that different people are, well, different.
     
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    Whaaat? Sounds crazy!

    Did you sleep in the lab?
     
  9. Philosophical_Dad

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    0/30

    I listened to youtube while working late last night.
     
  10. Force Majeure

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    Nope! I worked non stop until I finished my things. My record was 38.5 hours inside the lab, don’t remember how long I was awake that time. :)
     
  11. That's amazing, I've never heard of something like this before really. Did you eat? Breathe?

    Do you think you stayed productive? How were the following days after sessions like this? I guess you wouldn't necessarily recommend this to anyone, would you?
     
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    Would you believe me if I said no? ;) Ok, I admit - I did eat and breathe :D It was a fun time back in the days when I did this (about eight years ago), I remember people came by the lab and said hello, then when they came by the next day they were like "wtf, you're still here?!" Thing was, I was so interested in the things I was doing I didn't want to stop (if you're curious about what it was, pm me).

    When it comes to productivity... well that's another story. There was a lot of stuff I had to do over and over again because I had been doing the preparation work too quickly. So if I had been better at taking breaks, I would probably have been doing less mistakes and thereby get more productive. However, when it comes to the amount of work done, e.g. productivity * time, I did a hell of a lot of work.

    Talking about the days following these sessions... It would go something like this. Being at the lab for a very long time, come home, sleep for about 12-14 hours, then regardless of what time it was, start the next day. What I did then was a lot dependent on my emotions, which quite often led to binging to porn. So coming to the question if I would recommend this, I would say no for that reason. Forcing yourself to live a life without a good rhythm leads to too much coffee, difficulty and ineffective sleep, odd woken hours in a weak and vulnerable state, which ultimately makes you give in to whatever feelings you have.

    So to summarise, I got a lot of work done during my sessions but I also wasted a lot of hours in between them.
     
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  14. You must have been extremely excited about what you did back then. I'm not going to do the same but somehow this attracts me in a slightly twisted way. I have thought that I have a tendency of stretching working hours but it's been nothing like this. Having more structure in routines has probably more benefits in the long run, even though it may not feel like it when you feel you can't stop now.

    So you might be a human after all.
     
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  16. TangoTao

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    THANKS,

    ANYWAYS - I DECIDED.

    FOOD AND MAIN COMPUTER OFF BY 16.00H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That will help in many ways - primarly to get up early(super early)
    and with my quiet time and medtitation, etc, spending time with people,
    kept it for the last couple of days so believe can keep it for at least 3 weeks - i'll AIM for a full month

    day 3/30 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    @Philosophical_Dad thanks for insights too
     
  17. I'll join you next week. Let the goal be 14 days for now. No screens after 21. Hopefully in bed at 22.
     
  18. Force Majeure

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    As I said elsewhere, this past week has been a little rough, with a major deadline this morning and an urgent family issue that took up about 2.5 work days. The stress definitely reduced my self-regulation. I had to work after 18:00 each night and I gave up and listened to YouTube videos while I worked. I watched a couple extra videos for entertainment after finishing work last night and other nights too. Worst of all, I watched porn several times recently--without checking my porn challenge thread, I'd guess three times in four days.

    Today, my plan is to try to relax and recuperate. I'll meditate, prep some healthy food, spend time with my daughter, and plan my week a bit. I hope that that will bring back some of my self-regulation. Also, I expect that not having to work late will take away one thing that was really making this challenge tough.

    What I'd like to do is take stock of some of the things that went wrong this past week and write up some implementation intentions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implementation_intention) to help me pursue my goals.
     

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