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The Psychology of Romantic Love

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by OnceAfraidToMerge, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. Given that part of the aim of NoFap is to combat toxic attitudes to intimacy, I wanted to recommend a book to you all that has been incredibly significant in altering the way I view romantic relationships for the better.

    "We: Understanding the Psychology of Romantic Love" - Robert A. Johnson

    The book uses the story of Tristan and Iseult as both a critique of the unrealistic expectations of love and the confusing of love and lust in the West, as well as an analogy to explain, in a Layman-friendly way, the application of Jungian psychology in the context of romantic relationships.

    Here are a couple of extracts that stuck with me to give you the jist, although these are written with regards to Tristan's perspective these both apply to both sides of a romantic relationship:

    Extract #1
    Strangely, most men react to this stage of romantic love - this breaking of the spell - as though it were a great misfortune! It is the crucial point in an evolution, the opening of a wonderful possibility; but somehow he convinces himself that it is a disaster.
    When a man's projections on a woman unexpectedly evaporate, he will often announce that he is "disenchanted" with her; he is disappointed that she is a human being rather than an embodiment of his fantasy. He acts as though she had done something wrong. If he would open his eyes, he would see that the breaking of the spell opens a golden opportunity to discover the real person who is there. It is equally the chance to discover the unknown parts of himself that he has been projecting on her and trying to live through her.

    Extract #2
    A commitment to passion is not a substitute for commitment to a human-being. In our culture we have these two feelings completely confused. We are all committed to finding passion, we are all committed to being eternally "in love"; and we imagine that this is the same thing as being committed to a person. But the passion fades; the passion migrates to someone else we feel attracted to. If we are committed only to follow were passion leads, then there can be no true loyalty to an individual person.

    Thanks for reading! Let me know your thoughts..
     
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    Romantic love, and love in general, is far more complicated than we’ve been led to believe by Hollywood movies or jewelry store ads. Nowhere do we hear that love can be unsexy drudgery. Or that love can sometimes be unpleasant or even painful, that it could potentially even be something we don’t want to feel at times. Or that love requires self-discipline and a certain amount of sustained effort over the course of years, decades, a lifetime.

    These truths are not exciting. Nor do they sell well.

    The painful truth about love is that the real work of a relationship begins after the curtain closes and the credits roll. The real work of a relationship is all the boring, dreary, unsexy things that nobody else sees or appreciates. Like most things in the media, the portrayal of love in pop culture is limited to the highlight reel. All the nuance and complexities of actual living through a relationship is swept away to make room for the exciting headline, the unjust separation, the crazy plot twist, and of course everyone’s favorite happy ending.

    Most of us have been so inundated by these messages throughout our entire lives that we have come to mistake the excitement and drama of romance for the whole relationship itself. When we’re swept up by romance, we can’t imagine anything could possibly go wrong between us and our partner. We can’t see their faults or failures, all we see is their limitless potential and possibility.

    This is not love. This is a delusion. And like most delusions, things usually don’t end well.

    The same goes with passion or dreams.

    A lot of people fantasize about being rock stars, but unwilling to live the reality of it. The daily drudgery of practicing, the logistics of finding a group and rehearsing, the pain of finding gigs and actually getting people to show up and give a shit. The broken strings, the blown tube amp, hauling 40 pounds of gear to and from rehearsals with no car.

    People want an amazing physique. But you don’t end up with one unless you legitimately appreciate the pain and physical stress that comes with living inside a gym for hour upon hour, unless you love calculating and calibrating the food you eat, planning your life out in tiny plate-sized portions.

    People want to start their own business or become financially independent. But you don’t end up a successful entrepreneur unless you find a way to appreciate the risk, the uncertainty, the repeated failures, and working insane hours on something you have no idea whether will be successful or not.

    People want a partner, a spouse. But you don’t end up attracting someone amazing without appreciating the emotional turbulence that comes with weathering rejections, building the sexual tension that never gets released, and staring blankly at a phone that never rings.

    Too much concepts from fantasizing, music, tv, film, and books. Not enough actual experience with how things really are in reality.
     
  3. The only time I think Hollywood got close was this scene in High Fidelity:


    Although you've expressed it far better in your post. Very insightful, thank you!
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2018
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